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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 31 2013 23:16 GMT
#72
/in yolo
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 31 2013 23:18 GMT
#73
"I understand that the posting req etc etc im on phone"
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 21:06 GMT
#122
##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


For mayor. For your Big Brother.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 22:35 GMT
#155
'Slam seems pretty town to me, the lurker lynch and all. Doesn't feel like he has anybody to talk to (scum qt), wants to jump right into things.

Random lynch I normally support but the whole day 2 mylo thing puts me on edge. In terms of Hopeless' alignment, I remember hopeless was scum in the last big game and did nothing, so him doing something to thrust himself outward is a sign of towniness.

I have no idea why Gumshoe actually answered Rayns question, in fact why DID you ask the question, Rayn. The one about mafia talking in QT. Purpose?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 22:38 GMT
#157
On January 04 2014 07:38 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 07:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
'Slam seems pretty town to me, the lurker lynch and all. Doesn't feel like he has anybody to talk to (scum qt), wants to jump right into things.

Random lynch I normally support but the whole day 2 mylo thing puts me on edge. In terms of Hopeless' alignment, I remember hopeless was scum in the last big game and did nothing, so him doing something to thrust himself outward is a sign of towniness.

I have no idea why Gumshoe actually answered Rayns question, in fact why DID you ask the question, Rayn. The one about mafia talking in QT. Purpose?

I kinda want to lynch you just for this post.


Why?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 22:41 GMT
#162
On January 04 2014 07:39 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 07:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2014 07:38 yamato77 wrote:
On January 04 2014 07:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
'Slam seems pretty town to me, the lurker lynch and all. Doesn't feel like he has anybody to talk to (scum qt), wants to jump right into things.

Random lynch I normally support but the whole day 2 mylo thing puts me on edge. In terms of Hopeless' alignment, I remember hopeless was scum in the last big game and did nothing, so him doing something to thrust himself outward is a sign of towniness.

I have no idea why Gumshoe actually answered Rayns question, in fact why DID you ask the question, Rayn. The one about mafia talking in QT. Purpose?

I kinda want to lynch you just for this post.


Why?

"But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic."


Ok seriously fuck off. I was too pro-town last game and got lynched for it, and I flipped town. It's just a joke on how I used to play. I'm trying to become better, and if everyone is going to yell at me for being pro-town as town then what's the point of playing.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 22:42 GMT
#163
When I say "fuck off" I actually mean <3 love you Yamato.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 23:05 GMT
#175
On January 04 2014 07:56 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 07:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2014 07:38 yamato77 wrote:
On January 04 2014 07:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
'Slam seems pretty town to me, the lurker lynch and all. Doesn't feel like he has anybody to talk to (scum qt), wants to jump right into things.

Random lynch I normally support but the whole day 2 mylo thing puts me on edge. In terms of Hopeless' alignment, I remember hopeless was scum in the last big game and did nothing, so him doing something to thrust himself outward is a sign of towniness.

I have no idea why Gumshoe actually answered Rayns question, in fact why DID you ask the question, Rayn. The one about mafia talking in QT. Purpose?

I kinda want to lynch you just for this post.


Why?


Because scum knows who town is, and your early read sounds too confident for a blind townie.


Gumshoe, did you think this before Yamato expressed concern with my post (which is too pro-town, btw), or did you suddenly find fault with it after Yamato had mentioned it?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 23:22 GMT
#184
On January 04 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 08:10 yamato77 wrote:
Between gumshoe and rayn, I would rather lynch rayn.


Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity?


Rayn and Gumshoe both claim town, therefore this is a counterclaim scenario.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2014 23:24 GMT
#186
On January 04 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 08:10 yamato77 wrote:
Between gumshoe and rayn, I would rather lynch rayn.


Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity?


Now I feel townier about Gumshoe. If I was under pressure as mafia, and some random townie (assuming yam town) aspired to kill rayn (town in this case) and not me I would be happy to shut up and let Yamato push my agenda.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 01:23 GMT
#234
Lol dat reveal. Slam and rayn are town. Idk about gumshoe still have to read what went on with him and rayn.

sent maf dat quoting the cop claim and nothing else, discrediting both rayn and gumshoe in the process.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 01:46 GMT
#250
i want to yolo it. I want to but the pain if town
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 01:52 GMT
#253
Sent makes no sense right now. He gets scum vibes from both rayn and gumshoe, and is voting gumshoe cus he asked for a counterclaim. mind you this wagon is led by rayn who he thinks is scummy.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 01:55 GMT
#258
I hear something faint, the wind most likely.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 01:59 GMT
#264
a counterclaim nets us 1 mafia guarenteed, not a scummy play. Cant let a fakeclaim go un cc'd anyway.

sent there are reasons gum looks bad and thats not one of them. i domt see how rayn is mafia fakeclaiming cop without a cc, and i hv no reason to distrust in that. fuck parity cop, esp with potential gf
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 02:01 GMT
#266
Exactly.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 02:11 GMT
#271
On January 04 2014 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##unvote

Ok let's take a step back, I might have gotten a bit too carried away.

I just skimmed the thread and jumped on the first thing that looked suspicious.


Lol i think we have an admission of being mafia here.

Who skims the thread and jumps on first thing suspicious? MAFIA
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 02:14 GMT
#273
omggg its so scummy rayn. He risked hammer cus he skimmed the thread and jumped on the first thing he could blahh
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 02:20 GMT
#277
Hmm. Gumshoe could still be mafia, kinda tunneled on sent there sorry sent.

Usuallly yam is obv town when town so thats something
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 02:21 GMT
#280
sent you have to understand that it was scummy as balls though. Wagon on a dude and didnt read? ##vote.

Im sure you can understand.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:03 GMT
#299
This is a pointless convo imo.

Im actually liking gum/yam +1 maf
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:03 GMT
#302
ignore me im tired
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:18 GMT
#310
dont hammer gumshoe at least until tmrw.

I agree yam is not his usual awesome gosu townie self, so im scummy on him.

Im sure rayn and slam are town. Idk about sent, didnt like his entrance it was scummy but hes slowed down and had some ok posts. Hopeless hasnt done much but its more thsn when hes maf.

And gum has had some scummy stuff like piggy backing off yamato bringing up my opener and never following it up.kush and coag... null obv.

So that leaves in order from scum to town

gum
yam
kush / coag / sent
hopless
slam
rayn
me

Idk where thrawn lies in this yet. Yay lists froom phone
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:21 GMT
#312
more time = he responds = info = good
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:22 GMT
#313
unless shenanigans. i mean i could hammer. just so unssure as town, and like the luxury of time.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:32 GMT
#315
this has the potential to be really really stupid.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:33 GMT
#316
OH GOD I CAN FEEL THE VOTE BUBBLING UP
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:35 GMT
#319
Rayn im suprised at how calmy you handle this. Im freaking out cus i want it to be right but potentially am wrong
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:36 GMT
#320
Luckily im sexy and YOLO
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:41 GMT
#327
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 19:34 GMT
#342
Im veteran and was shot last night. Good job hopeless!

me and hopeless super conf town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 19:34 GMT
#343
im really happy i soaked a hit. dat protownness!!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 19:35 GMT
#344
Oh i thought hopeless claimed lol reading on phone. my role is useless now so i claim my super vetness
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 19:38 GMT
#346
Maf cant kill me im the awesomest dude around!!! mwuhahhaa!!

i have reads which will be given tonight. dont lynch amyonw quicklym.. turned out bad last time
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 08:41 GMT
#398
Sorry no time for reads yet. Luckily we have infinite time.

Short story is that Kush/coag should really be looked at today.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 08:45 GMT
#399
As your fearless leader, i want everyone, especially rayn, to weigh in the options of lynching kush/coag when giving their reads.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 16:34 GMT
#451
The sexycake has returned, and list of reads will be given.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 16:55 GMT
#453
Cheesecake's Big List of Awesome

1) kushm4sta - Ok so I liked his point on hopeless as I explain later, but this point about Yamato is 100% wrong.

yamato
town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol)

WHAT early suspicion on Thrawn??? I don't understand how any town person can have a townread on Yamato right now, and using some non-existent suspicion on Thrawn is really bad.

2) alakaslam - Has seemed really town to me all game. Has engaged in conversation, and had thoughts very similar to mine. Upon seeing the gumshoe/rayn fiasco that was occuring, he posts this:
On January 04 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok everything essentially just became a food fight from my perspective.

At first I was thinking Rayne and Gumshoe scum, because seeing the layout concerns Rayne pointed out coupled with gumeshoe's post implying what I am doing is usually seen as scummy in reply to him, it looked like something to be able to lynch LHF with no recompense.

Then, after they talk a bit, I see Rayne going after gumshoe for said post and I'm like "well they certainly aren't scum together" and then Yamato77 wildly says between them he would go after Rayne!

Then gumshoe explains himself to Rayne and it makes sense- my how my reads fly -_-

This makes me ask, what are people's thoughts about hopeless and I rng'ing Kush? He has said nothing, and we are what, a couple hours into the game? I mean seriously, are we wrong/scummy or vote with us? Or what in between?

I was thinking pretty much the exact same things, and this leads me to believe he is town. He also has genuine posts like he doesn't trust his own reads, etc etc... and he even goes after Rayn for claiming parity cop. I don't think scum would yell at the cop like that -- he's just paranoid town.

4) Hopeless1der - I don't really think Hopeless is town anymore. He prodded the RNG lynch, whatever, non alignment indicative. He didn't really PUSH his RNG lynch at all, just sat on the sidelines and voted for Gumshoe for no reason. Upon the daypost he said some generic stuff which is null. His case on Yamato isn't really convicincing, sadly. Overall I haven't seen much from Hopeless to indicate that he's town, but not enough to say he's mafia... HOWEVER. Kush brings up a good point about Hopeless that I'll keep here, I believe it is valid.
On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:

hopeless
His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense.
First he soft defends him.
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.

no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons.

And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me?
What exactly are you saying here?

im saying gumshoe not making sense could be because hes confused, not necessarily mafia. You're totes town

To this:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 10:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he does not think i am mafia i have no reason to lie about why i claimed in the first place, which i stated was not because of pressure. Either way he is bullshitting.

I'll be honest, I didnt read very closely the first time around. gumshoe is a good lynch. but, BETTER THAN RNG? I DUNNO.

Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him.


5) Raynpelikoneet - Claimed Parity Cop, 3 blues doesn't seem too bad in a game where it's 3 mafia v 7 town, and parity cop sucks nuts. Has acted fairly pro-town all game, pushed Thrawn into getting vigged by Sentinel.

6) coagulation - Really hasn't done anything, typical Coag. Only thing I really hated was his point on 'slam talking about lurker hunting the entire game which he only did at the beginning.

7) [UoN]Sentinel - Vigilante, shot mafia N1.

8) Yamato77 - Parroting off of others, don't feel like writing a lot, but I agree with Rayn pretty much. I don't like how he says "Good to see my suspicion on Thrawn was correct" because he had no suspicion on thrawn from what I can tell. All i see in his filter is a giant list post, AFTER the day post, saying thrawn = red. No reasoning given. Even if Yamato is town and he was posting his nighttime reads, the thrawn mafia read would have AT LEAST A SENTENCE OF EXPLANATION.

10) Mr. Cheesecake - Veteran, shot N1
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 16:57 GMT
#454
FMPOV the unknowns are technically Coag / Kush / Yamato / Hopeless / Slam. We have to pick two that are town, and then lynch into the other three to win the game.

Slam I think is townie. So lynch into coag/kush/yamato/hopeless. I really want to lynch kush for that line about Yamato being town cus thrawn suspicion.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#455
##Vote: Kush

Slapping that there because confirmed town get fucked mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:10 GMT
#459
Why do you want to lynch Kush Hopeless? I actually don't want to.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:11 GMT
#460
and kush shhhh it's all part of the plan.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:14 GMT
#461
On January 06 2014 02:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
can you settle for yamato today and i'll help you lynch kush tomorrow Mr.Sexycake?


Hi hopeless why do you want to lynch Kush?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#463
On January 06 2014 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wtf is with everyone saying Hopeless soft-defended gumshoe?
That's not a defense as it does not answer my argument in any way.


Soft defense as in "I don't think that means he's scum" sort of way. Even if it doesn't answer your argument it's still an attempt to defend, imo.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:21 GMT
#464
Rayn who is town out of Coag / Kush / Yamato / hopeless because we just have to choose one, then lynch the rest for the win.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:26 GMT
#467
On January 06 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 02:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Rayn who is town out of Coag / Kush / Yamato / hopeless because we just have to choose one, then lynch the rest for the win.

We are in 6-2, which means if we mislynch we're in MYLO. So we have 1 mislynch.

I am pretty sure Coag and Hopeless are town and Alakaslam is by no means anywhere near town as he is saying Hopeless is scum for exactly same stuff he did himself all D1.

But yamato is mafia because he is playing so much under his standards. He basically called everyone possibly mafia but then Hopeless was the most mafia - Alakaslam town (hint: both of those guys acted quite similarly on D1).


this was on the assumption of slam town. we pick town out of there, and if we mislynch from 3 dudes then we lynch the other two who are mafia so we would win.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:28 GMT
#468
ANYYYWAY why is coag town?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:30 GMT
#471
On January 06 2014 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 02:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
ANYYYWAY why is coag town?

Because he has made more sense in his only real post than he has ever made in all his scumgames together.


Coag meta, such sad. Much cry.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:39 GMT
#474
Yamato is at L-1. If he flips green then I want hopeless to die. Because fuck 2 mafia being inside kush/coag/slam--that's just cruel by BH.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:40 GMT
#475
If Yamato is red then Hopeless super town and we pretty much win the game.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#477
On January 06 2014 02:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
I just want Yamato to die today. If he flips red, then kush looks worse


Why did you want to lynch kush tomorrow? The only mention of him is RNG. But it's day 2 now.

Regardless of Yamato's alignment you just say you want to help me lynch kush.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 20:05 GMT
#496
I want to hear who yam believes is super mafia bros :D
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 20:09 GMT
#497
Also: Why did your "night reads" list have thrawn as red? I don't understand why, if you were town and had a scumread on him, you wouldnt explain it during your post when day broke. You couldnt have known thrawn would die so some explanation of this read would have been necessary
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:22 GMT
#504
On January 06 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
his reasons were voting+low activity.


My point is this is incredibly lazy for a town yamato. I would expect with 24 hours he would have come up with more than that. The whole post really seems last minute instead of thinking about it overnight.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:28 GMT
#506
On January 06 2014 06:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 06:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 06 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
his reasons were voting+low activity.


My point is this is incredibly lazy for a town yamato. I would expect with 24 hours he would have come up with more than that. The whole post really seems last minute instead of thinking about it overnight.

I formed them hastily at 4AM, mostly for my own notes.

Is this your biggest concern or is there something more substantial I should address?


Why did you shoot me? That's my biggest concern.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:33 GMT
#509
On January 06 2014 06:30 yamato77 wrote:
CC, do you have any concrete reasons to believe me mafia?


The fact that I know you're better than this, and you not believing the claims is retarded.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:37 GMT
#511
On January 06 2014 06:33 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 06:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 06 2014 06:30 yamato77 wrote:
CC, do you have any concrete reasons to believe me mafia?


The fact that I know you're better than this, and you not believing the claims is retarded.

Did you read my latest posts? The claims thing is not even an issue.


I sheep Rayn pretty much, because he is always right. I mean just look at the last lynch, so good.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:42 GMT
#514
On January 06 2014 06:40 yamato77 wrote:
There is nothing in here that isn't factually correct. Lack of counterclaim does not prove Rayn is town, we do not know what roles exist in this setup.

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 17:29 yamato77 wrote:
On January 05 2014 17:10 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 05 2014 16:59 yamato77 wrote:
No one is confirmed town for claiming anything, for starters.


did you read the game? because sent, rayn, cc are 100% confirmed and that's not even an opinion.

This is a bit silly. There's no conclusive evidence that any of their claims is 100% confirmed.

Of the three, I trust CC's the most. It's believable that scum wanted to let Rayn live because of how he played D1 (or that Rayn is possibly scum) and thus shot CC, who is a better player than Slam and the second towniest player behind him.

If I believe CC's claim, I kinda have to believe Sent's claim as well, considering the setup. There is a possible scenario where they are the last two mafia and intentionally did this, but I haven't enough reason to doubt my read on CC to believe in it yet. Sent seemed mafia-ish D1, but it's not enough to take a leap of faith.

Rayn's claim makes no sense as any alignment, so I'm basically ignoring the fact that he claimed altogether. There is NO WAY to confirm his claim yet and NO REASON to ignore him now because of it. He led the lynch D1, and has now basically just peaced out of any responsibility for how D2 goes. It's definitely possible that he was scumbuddies with thrawn and accused him D1.

That leaves Coag, you, and Hopeless as possible mafia, with AT LEAST ONE likely to be, POSSIBLY TWO, if Rayn is to be believed. The correct play would be to thus pick one of you three and lynch him, and I'm pretty sure I already said Hopeless is the scummiest.

By the way, the list was MOSTLY based off reads I made during the night phase. I have only just now begun to consider the implications of the claims seriously.



from a balance perspective rayn is cop. in a game with 3 mafia, 10 town there are usually 3 blues.

this game has 3 mafia and 7 town...

regardless. I do like hopeless as mafia, but rayn doesnt see it. I just know it's one of you or hopeless. cus i can't see coag / kush together?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:45 GMT
#515
On January 06 2014 06:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 06:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 06 2014 06:33 yamato77 wrote:
On January 06 2014 06:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 06 2014 06:30 yamato77 wrote:
CC, do you have any concrete reasons to believe me mafia?


The fact that I know you're better than this, and you not believing the claims is retarded.

Did you read my latest posts? The claims thing is not even an issue.


I sheep Rayn pretty much, because he is always right. I mean just look at the last lynch, so good.

Seriously, CC, if you're town, this is a stupid lynch to sheep on.

What makes you think Hopeless is townier than I am?


Meta, unfortunately.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:49 GMT
#520
That and he kind of got thrawn killed.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 21:49 GMT
#521
if you don't think he's lying then shut up about it could be a fakeclaim. It literally does nothing but make me want to lynch you.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 22:22 GMT
#525
Yamato is town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2014 23:04 GMT
#527
Also Rayn is really bad for saying Coag is town. He hasn't done shit this game but give a sparse and shitty list.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 15:17 GMT
#568
Can we all agree to lynch Coag? Like wtf why is he town so sad.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 15:23 GMT
#570
On January 07 2014 00:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 00:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can we all agree to lynch Coag? Like wtf why is he town so sad.

Possibly- why is he scum?


Done nothing all game, is coag. policy coag.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 15:35 GMT
#575
On January 07 2014 00:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 00:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 00:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 07 2014 00:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can we all agree to lynch Coag? Like wtf why is he town so sad.

Possibly- why is he scum?


Done nothing all game, is coag. policy coag.

thats standard coag play...


and it pisses me off that people are allowed to play like that, and that is why we policy.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 16:22 GMT
#578
On January 07 2014 01:16 kushm4sta wrote:
i'm not ready to swear coag is town but I think he's town.

@hopeless Why would you SWEAR he is scum?? He is inactive as shit as both alignments so I don't get how you can be super sure he is scum.

@everyone else, especially rayn, why do you think hopeless is town??


he swears yamato is scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 16:42 GMT
#580
On January 07 2014 01:41 kushm4sta wrote:
ok that makes more sense.

am i safe in saying the lynch choices are yamato or hopeless?


yes
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 16:43 GMT
#582
If you read thrawns filter it makes me think yamato is mafia, because he attacks hopeless subtely
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 16:44 GMT
#583
IM ON THE SIDE I WANT TO BE ON
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 16:45 GMT
#584
kush why dont you want to lynch yamato
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 16:54 GMT
#587
The reason i like hopeless lynch, besides previously stated junk, is that both hopeless and coag were on the gum wagon for jack reasoning. If it's yamato + kush / slam then 0 maf were behind the d1 mislynch
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#590
On January 07 2014 02:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 01:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The reason i like hopeless lynch, besides previously stated junk, is that both hopeless and coag were on the gum wagon for jack reasoning. If it's yamato + kush / slam then 0 maf were behind the d1 mislynch

you know...besides thrawn


thrawn didnt vote gum. i meant vote wise
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#591
On January 07 2014 02:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 01:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The reason i like hopeless lynch, besides previously stated junk, is that both hopeless and coag were on the gum wagon for jack reasoning. If it's yamato + kush / slam then 0 maf were behind the d1 mislynch


slam was also on the gum lynch also for jack reasoning


except slam is super town
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 17:26 GMT
#595
This is more drama than big brother!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 17:29 GMT
#597
if kush is scum then he is bussing hopeless 100% because its kush
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 17:32 GMT
#601
We should just lynch both of hopeless and yamato. 1 scum in there 100%.

if we hit town first then at worst it becomes 3 v 1 mylo with one confirmed alive. If we hit scum first we have another ML and win the game.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 17:51 GMT
#605
Idk who is what alignment so just hammer one dude and then ill be happy.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:16 GMT
#610
im down for policy lynching coag.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:25 GMT
#613
Or you're mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:38 GMT
#616
ofc i waver back and forth, im town and dont have information.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:39 GMT
#617
I'll let Rayn and Sent decide.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:41 GMT
#619
I really want to just lynch coag.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:51 GMT
#624
Rayn how sure are you on Yamato scum? Because the only thing I have in my notes is "Yamato is... weird" from before today.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:52 GMT
#625
I can't reconcile a town Coag, and hopeless puts me on edge. I like slam for town and kush is a big ?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 18:54 GMT
#627
Then vote him?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 19:19 GMT
#633
On January 07 2014 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The fact is Hopeless cannot be scum because everyone who is not confirmed thinks he is mafia and it does not make any sense.
I suggest you find real scum if you are town.


Like gumshoe? :o
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 19:39 GMT
#640
If you are both town i will lmao
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 19:46 GMT
#643
Yamato, why is sentinel ONLY confirmed because you believe me? A fucking mafia died. Vig.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 19:50 GMT
#647
On January 07 2014 04:47 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 04:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Yamato, why is sentinel ONLY confirmed because you believe me? A fucking mafia died. Vig.

Like I said, you could both be lying and be mafia who planned a shot on thrawn. It's unlikely, but POSSIBLE.


No it's not. There are no CC's, and that would leave town with only 1 blue.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 19:54 GMT
#649
On January 07 2014 04:45 yamato77 wrote:
"Big post meta"

Yeah, that's a good heuristic.

Like I said before, Sentinel is basically only confirmed because I believe CC is town and telling the truth.


You don't think he is mafia yet are casting his argument aside because he is "only confirmed because of this".
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 19:55 GMT
#651
On January 07 2014 04:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 04:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 04:45 yamato77 wrote:
"Big post meta"

Yeah, that's a good heuristic.

Like I said before, Sentinel is basically only confirmed because I believe CC is town and telling the truth.


You don't think he is mafia yet are casting his argument aside because he is "only confirmed because of this".

No, because the timing of big posts is not any indication of my alignment. It's a terrible heuristic.


Kind of like me being pro-town means me as mafia?

Because that was totally a town-aligned way of gunning for me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 22:39 GMT
#698
Hopeless that argument is crap.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#699
Im just waiting for Rayn to come back so we can hammer somebody.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#702
On January 07 2014 07:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 07:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hopeless that argument is crap.

That argument is the most legit thing in my filter. If you didn't want to lynch me already, you're doing it wrong.


OK you are voted.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:03 GMT
#710
On January 07 2014 08:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
accused by who and in what capacity? Were you up for lynch? I dont think anyone was a good mislynch target going into day 2 except perhaps me.


You weren't even up for consideration.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:04 GMT
#712
On January 07 2014 08:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
accused by who and in what capacity? Were you up for lynch? I dont think anyone was a good mislynch target going into day 2 except perhaps me.


And how exactly do you know WHO was a GOOD MISLYNCH... you don't know the alignment of anyone.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:09 GMT
#715
Town don't think anyone is a good mislynch, that's so scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#717
IF ONLY I HAD MORE PEOPLE WITH CONFIRMED TOWNIE STATUS TO DISCUSS THIS WITH.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:18 GMT
#720
God you both are so needy.

It's like I call one scum, and he goes ERMAGERD U BAD CC. Then I call the other scum and he's like WOW U BAD BRO.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:19 GMT
#721
On January 07 2014 08:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Town don't think anyone is a good mislynch, that's so scum.

I mean...I know people have a tendency to call arguments shitty, but come on CC you're better than pulling the semantics card out on me right now. Yamato was arguing that scum wouldnt nk because he might be easy to mislynch. I don't buy that argument, not from yamato. from kush or slam? no problem. but not from yamato.


I thought me or rayn would be shot at night, 100%. I was suspicious of mafia, I didn't think mafia would kill him at all. So the arguement is bad.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:19 GMT
#722
suspicious of Yamato**
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:20 GMT
#724
On January 07 2014 08:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
accused by who and in what capacity? Were you up for lynch? I dont think anyone was a good mislynch target going into day 2 except perhaps me.


You weren't even up for consideration.

Who WAS up for consideration at the start of Day 2?


Yamato, Coag, Kush. I thought you were town

I wanted to lynch sent before his claim, heh.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:20 GMT
#725
All of this discussion means nothing because nobody is around to vote anyway.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2014 23:23 GMT
#727
Why the fuck couldn't I just have died at night, it would have been glorious.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:05 GMT
#730
Zero fucks are given about this game apparently
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:29 GMT
#736
Rayn I'm interested to see where kush and coag put their votes.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#757
Can we lynch Coag instead?

It's pretty obvious that mafia aren't active.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 04:15 GMT
#775
On January 07 2014 13:14 yamato77 wrote:
Playing dota with hapa, will post after.


tell hapa i said hi
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 04:51 GMT
#785
they all say he is mafia.. but look at some of their reasons -.- coag...
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#821
I dont know anymore
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 17:28 GMT
#866
We're lynching coagulation because he's literally done nothing this entire game. If he isn't mafia then I refuse to play with him in the future via wisdom of the crowds.

and this is why we don't listen to rayn getting all mad at someone because they always flip town.

##Vote: Coag
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 17:34 GMT
#871
Like fucking seriously, if coag is going to play this way as town then there's just no excuse. He hasn't made any attempt to figure out the game at all. therefore he is mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 19:02 GMT
#884
coag fuck you, im never playing with you again.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 19:02 GMT
#886
Like what in the HELL
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 19:02 GMT
#887
who does this, ever.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 19:15 GMT
#904
On January 09 2014 04:14 Coagulation wrote:
I could tell by the way mr cc was playing he had absolutely no idea who was scum and was going to vote me no matter what because he would rather ride a policy lynch than admit he had no idea what was going on. there was no way I wasnt getting lynched today.


I would, because if you don't do anything the entire game YOU SHOULD BE SCUM
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 19:19 GMT
#907
On January 09 2014 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote:
Nah I made a legit case on scum day 2. you ignored it. Thats not called "not doing anything the entire game"

Yeah and then your scumread asked you to vote for another townie and you did so. Then you hammered that person.
Didn't look too fancy.


not to mention that dude flipped town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 19:31 GMT
#917
BH the day length doesnt matter in this case. Coag played fucking terrible and i policied him for it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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