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Mr. Cheesecake
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Mr. Cheesecake
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For mayor. For your Big Brother. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Random lynch I normally support but the whole day 2 mylo thing puts me on edge. In terms of Hopeless' alignment, I remember hopeless was scum in the last big game and did nothing, so him doing something to thrust himself outward is a sign of towniness. I have no idea why Gumshoe actually answered Rayns question, in fact why DID you ask the question, Rayn. The one about mafia talking in QT. Purpose? | ||
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On January 04 2014 07:38 yamato77 wrote: I kinda want to lynch you just for this post. Why? | ||
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On January 04 2014 07:39 yamato77 wrote: "But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic." Ok seriously fuck off. I was too pro-town last game and got lynched for it, and I flipped town. It's just a joke on how I used to play. I'm trying to become better, and if everyone is going to yell at me for being pro-town as town then what's the point of playing. | ||
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On January 04 2014 07:56 gumshoe wrote: Because scum knows who town is, and your early read sounds too confident for a blind townie. Gumshoe, did you think this before Yamato expressed concern with my post (which is too pro-town, btw), or did you suddenly find fault with it after Yamato had mentioned it? | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote: Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity? Rayn and Gumshoe both claim town, therefore this is a counterclaim scenario. | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote: Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity? Now I feel townier about Gumshoe. If I was under pressure as mafia, and some random townie (assuming yam town) aspired to kill rayn (town in this case) and not me I would be happy to shut up and let Yamato push my agenda. | ||
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sent maf dat quoting the cop claim and nothing else, discrediting both rayn and gumshoe in the process. | ||
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sent there are reasons gum looks bad and thats not one of them. i domt see how rayn is mafia fakeclaiming cop without a cc, and i hv no reason to distrust in that. fuck parity cop, esp with potential gf | ||
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On January 04 2014 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: ##unvote Ok let's take a step back, I might have gotten a bit too carried away. I just skimmed the thread and jumped on the first thing that looked suspicious. Lol i think we have an admission of being mafia here. Who skims the thread and jumps on first thing suspicious? MAFIA | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Usuallly yam is obv town when town so thats something | ||
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Im sure you can understand. | ||
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Im actually liking gum/yam +1 maf | ||
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I agree yam is not his usual awesome gosu townie self, so im scummy on him. Im sure rayn and slam are town. Idk about sent, didnt like his entrance it was scummy but hes slowed down and had some ok posts. Hopeless hasnt done much but its more thsn when hes maf. And gum has had some scummy stuff like piggy backing off yamato bringing up my opener and never following it up.kush and coag... null obv. So that leaves in order from scum to town gum yam kush / coag / sent hopless slam rayn me Idk where thrawn lies in this yet. Yay lists froom phone | ||
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me and hopeless super conf town. | ||
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i have reads which will be given tonight. dont lynch amyonw quicklym.. turned out bad last time | ||
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Short story is that Kush/coag should really be looked at today. | ||
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1) kushm4sta - Ok so I liked his point on hopeless as I explain later, but this point about Yamato is 100% wrong. yamato town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol) WHAT early suspicion on Thrawn??? I don't understand how any town person can have a townread on Yamato right now, and using some non-existent suspicion on Thrawn is really bad. 2) alakaslam - Has seemed really town to me all game. Has engaged in conversation, and had thoughts very similar to mine. Upon seeing the gumshoe/rayn fiasco that was occuring, he posts this: On January 04 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote: Ok everything essentially just became a food fight from my perspective. At first I was thinking Rayne and Gumshoe scum, because seeing the layout concerns Rayne pointed out coupled with gumeshoe's post implying what I am doing is usually seen as scummy in reply to him, it looked like something to be able to lynch LHF with no recompense. Then, after they talk a bit, I see Rayne going after gumshoe for said post and I'm like "well they certainly aren't scum together" and then Yamato77 wildly says between them he would go after Rayne! Then gumshoe explains himself to Rayne and it makes sense- my how my reads fly -_- This makes me ask, what are people's thoughts about hopeless and I rng'ing Kush? He has said nothing, and we are what, a couple hours into the game? I mean seriously, are we wrong/scummy or vote with us? Or what in between? I was thinking pretty much the exact same things, and this leads me to believe he is town. He also has genuine posts like he doesn't trust his own reads, etc etc... and he even goes after Rayn for claiming parity cop. I don't think scum would yell at the cop like that -- he's just paranoid town. 4) Hopeless1der - I don't really think Hopeless is town anymore. He prodded the RNG lynch, whatever, non alignment indicative. He didn't really PUSH his RNG lynch at all, just sat on the sidelines and voted for Gumshoe for no reason. Upon the daypost he said some generic stuff which is null. His case on Yamato isn't really convicincing, sadly. Overall I haven't seen much from Hopeless to indicate that he's town, but not enough to say he's mafia... HOWEVER. Kush brings up a good point about Hopeless that I'll keep here, I believe it is valid. On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote: hopeless His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense. First he soft defends him. To this: Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him. 5) Raynpelikoneet - Claimed Parity Cop, 3 blues doesn't seem too bad in a game where it's 3 mafia v 7 town, and parity cop sucks nuts. Has acted fairly pro-town all game, pushed Thrawn into getting vigged by Sentinel. 6) coagulation - Really hasn't done anything, typical Coag. Only thing I really hated was his point on 'slam talking about lurker hunting the entire game which he only did at the beginning. 7) [UoN]Sentinel - Vigilante, shot mafia N1. 8) Yamato77 - Parroting off of others, don't feel like writing a lot, but I agree with Rayn pretty much. I don't like how he says "Good to see my suspicion on Thrawn was correct" because he had no suspicion on thrawn from what I can tell. All i see in his filter is a giant list post, AFTER the day post, saying thrawn = red. No reasoning given. Even if Yamato is town and he was posting his nighttime reads, the thrawn mafia read would have AT LEAST A SENTENCE OF EXPLANATION. 10) Mr. Cheesecake - Veteran, shot N1 | ||
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Slam I think is townie. So lynch into coag/kush/yamato/hopeless. I really want to lynch kush for that line about Yamato being town cus thrawn suspicion. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Slapping that there because confirmed town get fucked mafia. | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:05 Hopeless1der wrote: can you settle for yamato today and i'll help you lynch kush tomorrow Mr.Sexycake? Hi hopeless why do you want to lynch Kush? | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: wtf is with everyone saying Hopeless soft-defended gumshoe? That's not a defense as it does not answer my argument in any way. Soft defense as in "I don't think that means he's scum" sort of way. Even if it doesn't answer your argument it's still an attempt to defend, imo. | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: We are in 6-2, which means if we mislynch we're in MYLO. So we have 1 mislynch. I am pretty sure Coag and Hopeless are town and Alakaslam is by no means anywhere near town as he is saying Hopeless is scum for exactly same stuff he did himself all D1. But yamato is mafia because he is playing so much under his standards. He basically called everyone possibly mafia but then Hopeless was the most mafia - Alakaslam town (hint: both of those guys acted quite similarly on D1). this was on the assumption of slam town. we pick town out of there, and if we mislynch from 3 dudes then we lynch the other two who are mafia so we would win. | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he has made more sense in his only real post than he has ever made in all his scumgames together. Coag meta, such sad. Much cry. | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:37 Hopeless1der wrote: I just want Yamato to die today. If he flips red, then kush looks worse Why did you want to lynch kush tomorrow? The only mention of him is RNG. But it's day 2 now. Regardless of Yamato's alignment you just say you want to help me lynch kush. | ||
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On January 06 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote: his reasons were voting+low activity. My point is this is incredibly lazy for a town yamato. I would expect with 24 hours he would have come up with more than that. The whole post really seems last minute instead of thinking about it overnight. | ||
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On January 06 2014 06:23 yamato77 wrote: I formed them hastily at 4AM, mostly for my own notes. Is this your biggest concern or is there something more substantial I should address? Why did you shoot me? That's my biggest concern. | ||
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On January 06 2014 06:30 yamato77 wrote: CC, do you have any concrete reasons to believe me mafia? The fact that I know you're better than this, and you not believing the claims is retarded. | ||
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On January 06 2014 06:33 yamato77 wrote: Did you read my latest posts? The claims thing is not even an issue. I sheep Rayn pretty much, because he is always right. I mean just look at the last lynch, so good. | ||
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On January 06 2014 06:40 yamato77 wrote: There is nothing in here that isn't factually correct. Lack of counterclaim does not prove Rayn is town, we do not know what roles exist in this setup. from a balance perspective rayn is cop. in a game with 3 mafia, 10 town there are usually 3 blues. this game has 3 mafia and 7 town... regardless. I do like hopeless as mafia, but rayn doesnt see it. I just know it's one of you or hopeless. cus i can't see coag / kush together? | ||
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On January 06 2014 06:41 yamato77 wrote: Seriously, CC, if you're town, this is a stupid lynch to sheep on. What makes you think Hopeless is townier than I am? Meta, unfortunately. | ||
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Done nothing all game, is coag. policy coag. | ||
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and it pisses me off that people are allowed to play like that, and that is why we policy. | ||
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On January 07 2014 01:16 kushm4sta wrote: i'm not ready to swear coag is town but I think he's town. @hopeless Why would you SWEAR he is scum?? He is inactive as shit as both alignments so I don't get how you can be super sure he is scum. @everyone else, especially rayn, why do you think hopeless is town?? he swears yamato is scum. | ||
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On January 07 2014 01:41 kushm4sta wrote: ok that makes more sense. am i safe in saying the lynch choices are yamato or hopeless? yes | ||
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thrawn didnt vote gum. i meant vote wise | ||
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On January 07 2014 02:20 kushm4sta wrote: slam was also on the gum lynch also for jack reasoning except slam is super town | ||
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if we hit town first then at worst it becomes 3 v 1 mylo with one confirmed alive. If we hit scum first we have another ML and win the game. | ||
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On January 07 2014 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fact is Hopeless cannot be scum because everyone who is not confirmed thinks he is mafia and it does not make any sense. I suggest you find real scum if you are town. Like gumshoe? :o | ||
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On January 07 2014 04:47 yamato77 wrote: Like I said, you could both be lying and be mafia who planned a shot on thrawn. It's unlikely, but POSSIBLE. No it's not. There are no CC's, and that would leave town with only 1 blue. | ||
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On January 07 2014 04:45 yamato77 wrote: "Big post meta" Yeah, that's a good heuristic. Like I said before, Sentinel is basically only confirmed because I believe CC is town and telling the truth. You don't think he is mafia yet are casting his argument aside because he is "only confirmed because of this". | ||
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On January 07 2014 04:55 yamato77 wrote: No, because the timing of big posts is not any indication of my alignment. It's a terrible heuristic. Kind of like me being pro-town means me as mafia? Because that was totally a town-aligned way of gunning for me. | ||
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On January 07 2014 07:55 Hopeless1der wrote: That argument is the most legit thing in my filter. If you didn't want to lynch me already, you're doing it wrong. OK you are voted. | ||
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On January 07 2014 08:02 Hopeless1der wrote: accused by who and in what capacity? Were you up for lynch? I dont think anyone was a good mislynch target going into day 2 except perhaps me. You weren't even up for consideration. | ||
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On January 07 2014 08:02 Hopeless1der wrote: accused by who and in what capacity? Were you up for lynch? I dont think anyone was a good mislynch target going into day 2 except perhaps me. And how exactly do you know WHO was a GOOD MISLYNCH... you don't know the alignment of anyone. | ||
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It's like I call one scum, and he goes ERMAGERD U BAD CC. Then I call the other scum and he's like WOW U BAD BRO. | ||
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On January 07 2014 08:17 Hopeless1der wrote: I mean...I know people have a tendency to call arguments shitty, but come on CC you're better than pulling the semantics card out on me right now. Yamato was arguing that scum wouldnt nk because he might be easy to mislynch. I don't buy that argument, not from yamato. from kush or slam? no problem. but not from yamato. I thought me or rayn would be shot at night, 100%. I was suspicious of mafia, I didn't think mafia would kill him at all. So the arguement is bad. | ||
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On January 07 2014 08:19 Hopeless1der wrote: Who WAS up for consideration at the start of Day 2? Yamato, Coag, Kush. I thought you were town I wanted to lynch sent before his claim, heh. | ||
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It's pretty obvious that mafia aren't active. | ||
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On January 07 2014 13:14 yamato77 wrote: Playing dota with hapa, will post after. tell hapa i said hi | ||
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and this is why we don't listen to rayn getting all mad at someone because they always flip town. ##Vote: Coag | ||
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On January 09 2014 04:14 Coagulation wrote: I could tell by the way mr cc was playing he had absolutely no idea who was scum and was going to vote me no matter what because he would rather ride a policy lynch than admit he had no idea what was going on. there was no way I wasnt getting lynched today. I would, because if you don't do anything the entire game YOU SHOULD BE SCUM | ||
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On January 09 2014 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah and then your scumread asked you to vote for another townie and you did so. Then you hammered that person.  Didn't look too fancy. not to mention that dude flipped town. | ||
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