Extractor Trick Mini Mafia

On January 04 2014 06:32 Alakaslam wrote:
So what now? Hopeless, Coag, you guys have entered. Anything to say? I mean, besides stuff like "I'm town" because the basis of this game is that scum will lie...

Also, AMA.

On January 04 2014 07:39 gumshoe wrote:


His neutral activity is null, Alakaslam leans townie only because other people are kinda just trolling around in hopes of derailing the thread/baiting, the first of which is bad the second of which is negative good. Holy flaires thing is just dumb, scummy/reckless townie.

On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.

On January 04 2014 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me?
What exactly are you saying here?

On January 04 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he does not think i am mafia i have no reason to lie about why i claimed in the first place, which i stated was not because of pressure. Either way he is bullshitting.

On January 05 2014 04:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Why shouldn't the vig claim? If they blew their shot, they're essentially a VT now, right?

On January 04 2014 12:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


dafuq is this

On January 05 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thank you Sentinel for listening to me on thrawn (or good job or whatever your reasoning was ^^). Apologies guys for D1 lynch, i was really bad and that was bad from me.

I'll shut up for some time so people can actually talk and we don't end up with a clusterfuck like D1 lynch.
I was roleblocked.

On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.



In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).

On November 18 2013 06:49 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, so I've caught up to the lynch since I stopped reading yesterday due to going to my friend's birthday and then subsequently passing out for 12+ hours. FIRST and FOREMOST, I want to say that neither super nor VE have analyzed just about anyone in the game at all up to this point and yet people trusted their reads and analysis skills over mine (LOLOLOLOLOL). I should have been elected pardoner, mafia will 100% shoot me tonight.

On November 18 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote:
I told you I was dead

idiots.

On November 17 2013 02:32 yamato77 wrote:

Why hopeless?

I mean, he's always useless.

On January 05 2014 17:29 yamato77 wrote:
This is a bit silly. There's no conclusive evidence that any of their claims is 100% confirmed.

Of the three, I trust CC's the most. It's believable that scum wanted to let Rayn live because of how he played D1 (or that Rayn is possibly scum) and thus shot CC, who is a better player than Slam and the second towniest player behind him.

If I believe CC's claim, I kinda have to believe Sent's claim as well, considering the setup. There is a possible scenario where they are the last two mafia and intentionally did this, but I haven't enough reason to doubt my read on CC to believe in it yet. Sent seemed mafia-ish D1, but it's not enough to take a leap of faith.

Rayn's claim makes no sense as any alignment, so I'm basically ignoring the fact that he claimed altogether. There is NO WAY to confirm his claim yet and NO REASON to ignore him now because of it. He led the lynch D1, and has now basically just peaced out of any responsibility for how D2 goes. It's definitely possible that he was scumbuddies with thrawn and accused him D1.

That leaves Coag, you, and Hopeless as possible mafia, with AT LEAST ONE likely to be, POSSIBLY TWO, if Rayn is to be believed. The correct play would be to thus pick one of you three and lynch him, and I'm pretty sure I already said Hopeless is the scummiest.

By the way, the list was MOSTLY based off reads I made during the night phase. I have only just now begun to consider the implications of the claims seriously.

On January 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
Another possibility i just realized is yamato is pr and that's why he mysteriously doubts that all the prs are telling the truth. that actually makes a lot of sense. omg kush pro bluhunter.

On January 06 2014 00:46 kushm4sta wrote:
furthermore there are reasons why yamato might not want to counter claim his blue role.

On January 06 2014 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Yamato is at L-1. If he flips green then I want hopeless to die. Because fuck 2 mafia being inside kush/coag/slam--that's just cruel by BH.

On December 31 2013 02:49 Blazinghand wrote:

5. This game follows an instant simple majority lynch. The instant a player has the majority of votes on him, the day ends. So if there are 8 players you need 5 to lynch, if there are 7 players you need 4 to lynch.

On January 04 2014 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point i am trying to make is that gumshoe made these posts:


This makes absolutely no sense because he states here my mafia motivation for claiming would be because i was under pressure. That can't possibly be true in his opinion because the only one who at that point had accused me of anything was yamato. gumshoe himself agreed with me and turned against yamato for his pressure on me. There is no way gumshoe should be thinking i feel pressured about yamato's accusation because in the first place he himself thinks the accusation is bullshit.

On January 04 2014 07:08 Alakaslam wrote:

Dude I feel like I could ask everyone this right now.

I mean, it is stupid to say it's scummy to agree with me, but hopeless & Coag been pretty short & simple posts that are noncommittal in nature. We all saw posting requirements are aggressive; so let's post something to say!

On January 06 2014 05:20 yamato77 wrote:
So, let's start by addressing the accusations leveled at me on page 22 from Rayn and Hopeless. Most of the game seems content sheeping this reasoning, so I have to shoot it down so I can establish the townie base on which I can push my platform.



I doubted the blue claims because instantly believing claims in a semi-open setup is pretty silly. I had not yet thought about any of them seriously when I posted at the start of the day. The reads I posted then were, as I said before, formed mostly overnight during the silent phase, and done hastily mostly as my own notes.

As you can see later on, I did consider the claims and came to the conclusion that of the three, I trusted you the least because of how you have been playing today and the unconfirmed nature of your claim. However, I also very clearly came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth lynching you today, rather that I should focus on the unconfirmed players.

Of those four, Slam is the towniest. Other people disagree, but he is obviously trying this game and appears to be thinking things through in a clear manner. I have explained this at length, so it's not worth discussing further, we are not lynching him today.

Kush is the next towniest. I had no read before today, but he's put in real effort today and actually seems to be thinking about my alignment. I don't think scum kush fights my lynch at all, let alone as hard as he has today.He simply has no reason to.

Between Hopeless/Coag, Coag is actually townier, but not by much. Both of them could definitely be mafia, but I feel like lynching Hopeless more. I'll explain my Hopeless read at length later on.



I've addressed the claim situation, you're taking this a bit far. You fakeclaim often as both alignments, I do not trust you at all in any situation involving claims.



This is thin. Many people have used my extremely good town games against me when I have a slow start. I don't always play the same and I don't always have the time to devote to being super town. I know the difference between when I've been playing well and look townie and a game like this where I am under fire most of the time. Look at D1 of Thug Life, for an example of a town game similar to this one.

As for my opinion of you, yes, you are often useless, HOWEVER, you are tunneling me blindly on ridiculously thin grounds based on ONE GAME of meta. You are not this bad of a town player. Plus, as was pointed out by Kush, you were fishy with your opinion of gumshoe D1 and have also sheeped Rayn hard today in calling me mafia, which is a sharp turn away from your early posts where you say I deserve time. It just doesn't add up unless you are mafia.



I had explained my read on Slam multiple times by now, so that is not a point against me. You other three are the only other players worth looking at today, and I've talked about that at length earlier in this post.

Does anyone else feel the need for me to respond to anything else? If not, I'll be working through exactly why Hopeless is mafia in a subsequent post.

On January 06 2014 15:57 yamato77 wrote:

Read my posts.

On January 07 2014 00:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


Done nothing all game, is coag. policy coag.

On January 07 2014 00:33 Alakaslam wrote:

I swear he is town through neo-OMGUS. However if town takes a vote on forcing my hand I will submit.

On January 07 2014 01:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The reason i like hopeless lynch, besides previously stated junk, is that both hopeless and coag were on the gum wagon for jack reasoning. If it's yamato + kush / slam then 0 maf were behind the d1 mislynch

On January 07 2014 02:27 kushm4sta wrote:
please qualify your opinions with reasons. both cheesecake and hopeless. more important for hopeless.

On January 07 2014 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless can you explain in better detail why you decided to vote gumshoe?

On January 06 2014 13:08 Hopeless1der wrote:

This is what "changed my mind" about gumshoe. Accusing rayn of waiting until he was "under fire" and "reacting to pressure" to claim parity cop. I had only skimmed his posts and understood he couldn't understand why rayn claimed the way he did. When I actually sat down and read things through, I thought it was scummy.

Also, who actually thought an RNG lynch would get pushed? i did that for the hell of it because Slam wanted things to happen

On January 05 2014 15:58 Coagulation wrote:


so this exchange makes rayn look pretty solid town imo


[UoN]Sentinel is vig obv town



Yamato is playing piss poor and im leaning scum on him. Hes using pretty shit logic like

On January 05 2014 05:33 yamato77 wrote:
You would not lynch me before coag or kush in a game like this, don't be silly.

alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum.


Kush looks town to me so far. but that aint worth shit cause hes unreadable.


Mr. Cheesecake is vet. gonna assume its legit.


Hopeless1der sorta got a scum vibe but dunno. mostly null

and of course these reads come with the

On January 06 2014 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
Wanna lynch hopeless, coag/kush?

On January 06 2014 09:06 Coagulation wrote:
I can get behind that. Lemme double check his filter

On January 06 2014 23:25 Coagulation wrote:
##vote hopeless

On January 07 2014 04:32 yamato77 wrote:
He could be town, but it seems like a remote possibility.

On January 07 2014 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
If you are town, you've done the worst thing you could do today in accusing me on such flimsy grounds as a single game of "meta".

On January 04 2014 11:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't think rayn impulsively voting has anything to do with his alignment. He took his sweet time in LXII when I was scum with him.

I don't like yamato's presence this game. In the one game I remember with him, he made big posts right out of the gate. Big posts to get everything straightened out. As mafia, his big posts come later and carry considerably less clarity. When yamato is town, he's actively trying to straighten out the game so town can see what is going on.

On January 07 2014 04:55 yamato77 wrote:

No, because the timing of big posts is not any indication of my alignment. It's a terrible heuristic.

On January 07 2014 05:50 yamato77 wrote:
If you're going to lynch me, you need new justifications for calling me mafia.

On January 07 2014 06:25 Coagulation wrote:
hey guys. just posting to keep up with posting requirements.

somewhere geript is tearing his hair out right now.

On January 07 2014 07:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hopeless that argument is crap.

On January 07 2014 07:37 yamato77 wrote:

THIS DAY PROVES MY POINT

Jesus. It's not even an argument. People ACTUALLY THINK I'm mafia. Why would scum NK me?

On January 07 2014 08:03 yamato77 wrote:

People called me scum the whole day basically. Read the game.

On January 07 2014 08:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


And how exactly do you know WHO was a GOOD MISLYNCH... you don't know the alignment of anyone.

On January 07 2014 08:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Town don't think anyone is a good mislynch, that's so scum.

On January 07 2014 08:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


You weren't even up for consideration.

On January 08 2014 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
um i want more time so i can actually read filters. cause right now my reads are pretty much based on some shitty connection theory.

why do you want to kill yamato now? is it still lazy scum meta? because he has talked a shit ton.

On January 09 2014 02:28 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless why are you mad at me when you were the one asking for it?

On January 09 2014 02:29 kushm4sta wrote:


ready ima blow you mind here:
coag/alaka

On January 09 2014 04:03 yamato77 wrote:
kush and slam played better than hopeless and coag, rofl

On January 09 2014 04:25 Blazinghand wrote:
I would also just like to note that it's really really risky play to vote for someone as town less than an hour into the MYLO day. Come on, guys.

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On January 09 2014 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I mean you had a scumread on yamato. then he asked you to vote for hopeless, and you did so.
Ultimately you ended up voting for yamato, the dude who asked you to vote for another dude and did hell of more stuff than Hopeless on D2.

On January 09 2014 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
Not sure about the lynch on yamato btw, I didn't follow the game 100% but maybe it could have been avoided, I saw a lot of below-par posts from yamato I guess.

Dunno what he was doing bleating on about how claims weren't confirmed in all of his posts. That was really weird.

I guess you should be pretty sure about yamato if you're lynching him above mafia kush and mafia slam

On January 09 2014 04:42 kushm4sta wrote:
I was very readable this game, by rayn even. Just because you don't have the skills to read me doesn't mean im unreadable.

On January 09 2014 04:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
who all thought i was scum at the end of D1

On January 09 2014 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Seriously?!?!?!?

KUSH HAMMERED HIS TOWNREAD WHO WAS VOTED BY BOTH OF HIS SCUMREADS!
God...

On January 09 2014 05:21 yamato77 wrote:

Well, it's your fault for refusing to reconsider your position on me whatsoever and ignoring the other 3 unconfirmed players in the game entirely. At least I had reads on them.