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Alakaslam
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/in This is spoken with the understanding that I should either spam or speak my mind, except at night whence I must shut up. I also know that if I am last to vote, the requirement to shut up is immediate. And finally, ... ... That this game is based on my Broodwar play XD 3 epic mis clicks already in dat beginning | ||
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On January 01 2014 13:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Hope you're not pissed off by this yet... He has every right to be. | ||
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On January 01 2014 14:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well then the pretty colors will cheer him up! :D | ||
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LOCK THESE PPLZ IN | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0hjxOUi.jpg) YES YES YES I DID IT ADS IN SPANISH YES HIJOLEHIJOLEHIJOLE QUESO HIJOLE COME LECHUGA NIÑOS Edit: nooooooo What did I do wrong uploading? | ||
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On January 04 2014 05:14 Blazinghand wrote: last night? salad. it had baby chard and spinach and some other greens. I thin k the chard is what held together the best. Swiss chard is tough stuff, given water you can grow it in pebbly sand! It is also very good for you. However, sorry it didn't work out- get well soon! | ||
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Alakaslam
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Stay outta my way mah boi | ||
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Ppl where you all at? | ||
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On January 04 2014 06:19 Hopeless1der wrote: Guys we should have 4-pooled. Nonononono we like to mass sunken colonies against Terran. Is the only way! | ||
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On January 04 2014 06:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I watch out what being said by other people makes sense in a way that i feel like helps the town figuring out stuff and what doesn't. It's 7-3, so in a way yes, lurkers should be under more scrutiny in this setup. D2 is MYLO, there is absolutely no room for a single lurker/non-contributor. May that be a warning for everyone from the beginning. Ok. Hijole | ||
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Also, AMA. | ||
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On January 04 2014 06:22 gumshoe wrote: I feel a golden oportunity was missed, the flavour should have been the last thoughts of an extractor trick drone that doesnt get cancelled T_T. And looks like I forgot gumshoe- glad you are... I mean, are you still here? | ||
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Hijole... I was hoping you all could spark mine. You up for a lurker lynch? If not, does that start you forming a read on Rayne & I? | ||
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Heck and why not- EVERYONE THAT COMES. Let's discuss whether or not to lynch a lurker because at least it's something to discuss, and fwiw I think Rayne makes a good point but he could be scum- make me sure or make me understand? Hopefully, there will be no lurkers for a lurker lynch. But nonetheless here it is, if you have something better to discuss feel free to put it out there. | ||
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On January 04 2014 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: gumshoe if you were mafia what would you be talking with your scumbuddies in the scum QT atm? Dude I feel like I could ask everyone this right now. I mean, it is stupid to say it's scummy to agree with me, but hopeless & Coag been pretty short & simple posts that are noncommittal in nature. We all saw posting requirements are aggressive; so let's post something to say! | ||
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On January 04 2014 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote: In honor of our host the great and all powerful blazinghand I hereby declare this post to be RNG mod10  BlazingHand I miss the reference unfortunately | ||
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Alakaslam
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... ... I was about to say "dude that is scummy as I can see anything being scummy thus far!" But actually... Since it is a real RNG? And as tribute to BH? Would scum risk RNG? Check dat vote thread | ||
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Alakaslam
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At first I was thinking Rayne and Gumshoe scum, because seeing the layout concerns Rayne pointed out coupled with gumeshoe's post implying what I am doing is usually seen as scummy in reply to him, it looked like something to be able to lynch LHF with no recompense. Then, after they talk a bit, I see Rayne going after gumshoe for said post and I'm like "well they certainly aren't scum together" and then Yamato77 wildly says between them he would go after Rayne! Then gumshoe explains himself to Rayne and it makes sense- my how my reads fly -_- This makes me ask, what are people's thoughts about hopeless and I rng'ing Kush? He has said nothing, and we are what, a couple hours into the game? I mean seriously, are we wrong/scummy or vote with us? Or what in between? | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:22 yamato77 wrote: It was my way of shifting the discussion to a more appropriate target for consideration. Rayne being nicer to you than usual is not grounds to call him a better target. What else makes you think he may be scum? | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards. I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment. Now let's lynch mafia shall we? K look there are huge problems with this, I could actually totes lynch you with Yamato on this alone. If you are actually blue you just gave up that power's usefulness and if you are scum, the real cop can't counterclaim you without outing himself to you. Most will know this and therefore that it is essentially WIFOM, also I think YOU know better enough to know all that. | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment? This wouldn't be a policy lynch, because that statement is so scummy- coupled with gumshoe asking the cop to counterclaim?!?!? I'm back to thinking you are scum together! Ugh I don't trust my own reads | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: If i do not lynch mafia on D1 then i have definitely made a mistake but in my opinion this gives me much higher chances of lynching scum. I don't have to worry about people worrying about me. As i said me being parity cop is same as me being vanilla. I get a first scum check at best on D3. In my opinion at that point of the game there should be 2 mafia dead already. If there is not i am doing something wrong. If i am alive on D3 i am doing something wrong. Therefore me being a parity cop has no upsides besides the fact that if i claim it people can actually trust me and trust my thoughts to have a townie agenda without thinking about the possible scum motivations behind them. Dude. I mean yes I could see how the role is pretty useless then and probably not worth scum's time to fish out. But if you are scum? You just gave yourself the key to ultimate Svengali play, and a free day worth of survival if not more assuming you are believed! It doesn't accomplish the trust you need man, it makes stuff worse. But really, it would be super ballsy scum play. Counterclaiming would decrease chances of a mislynch to 50%! | ||
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On January 04 2014 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you just said this: Especially the bolded part. You do not explain why i am scum for claiming. You jsut say you want to lynch me for my claim. You never explain why my calim makes sense from a scum perspective. Either elaborate on why am i scum or drop it. Right now. Again if you are scum this statement completely removes pressure from you, this is absolutely why it is WIFOM, unless cop decides to counterclaim- if you are town then I assume you are frustrated with my not being convinced by this claim -_- It is so bad man. Check dat voting thread | ||
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On January 04 2014 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: One more post about discussing this without explaining why i am scum and i am policy lynching you Slam. yeah, this is why I'm lynching you. You are refusing to see what I'm saying. You are scum because you are 1: Blue Hunting 2: Fakeclaiming 3: bullying anyone who opposes you and using it as grounds to mislynch | ||
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On January 04 2014 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have now made 4 posts about my claim where you say "he could be town or he could be scum". Which is it? If you don't know do something else. Being wishy-washy about it does not get you anywhere. So which is it, town or scum? Scum. | ||
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On January 04 2014 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so Slam is town but just very stupid. Nice discredit explain? How on earth I what you are doing any better than the biggest WIFOM bomb I have ever seen plus a ton of Svengali? Why on earth should town believe your claim even if the parity cop role is so useless? I will even answer that- because it wouldn't be worth the risk to make suh a fakeclaim as scum. But the problem with that is it is like combining a bus with blue hunting, and you can count on town arriving at that same conclusion anyway! WIFOM is the greatest scum strategy IMO. | ||
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On January 04 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: a counterclaim nets us 1 mafia guarenteed, not a scummy play. Cant let a fakeclaim go un cc'd anyway. sent there are reasons gum looks bad and thats not one of them. i domt see how rayn is mafia fakeclaiming cop without a cc, and i hv no reason to distrust in that. fuck parity cop, esp with potential gf On January 04 2014 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: thrawn why would i claim parity cop as mafia instead of just.. you know, not claiming? These, plus looking at setup as scum would see it (losing one scum today versus a mislynch makes the game a lot harder for them) make me think if there is a cop, should counter claim, and Rayne probably confirmed town versus otherwise. Another reason I think so now is I was literally going through why I thought an early claim like that is so bad as either alignment that coming from Rayne it just reeks of scum, and he thought I was being wishy-washy and almost like he couldn't conceive how it was scummy- which I took as even scummier, but a look back, as town he would say the same stuff- you do something SPECIFICALLY to get people to work with you and first thing, this guy comes up and calls it WIFOM over and over and scummy, and you know in the setup scum don't do that etc. etc. Unvoting. | ||
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On January 04 2014 12:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: This is a pointless convo imo. Im actually liking gum/yam +1 maf Ok. Why Yam? For now I'm voting Gumshoe until something comes up. Rayne saying he wanted to hear more from UoN and discussing with Thrawn has given me some pause but I'm not hammering so see vote thread. | ||
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On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote: So here are the unknown right now: alakaslam: Well his early game is way more try hard than the towngame I just played with him recently. I would hope this means I am getting better somehow. Then his activity falls off, which is a pretty good scumtell in itself usually, especially when there is no excuse to explain it. this is loaded accusation. Blazinghand, I was eating dinner bro. I could ask where you were like ALL OF DAY 1...Overall his activity points fits with what I perceive his scumgame to look like. it is impossible to defend a meta argument. If you see it that way what am I supposed to do? Then there is this post: like wut...blue hunting?! Yes I thought he was trying to set up a counterclaim, hadn't thought the setup through- I don't usually do that @Alaka I want to know how rayne was blue hunting. Also I have no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that rayne was fakeclaiming, Go read that exchange again. I didn't jump to that conclusion I kept saying it was a bad move and thought his replies were scummy- an attitude I have since revoked anyway. since he gave a decent explanation for why he claimed and claiming as scum would be pretty suicidal. Yes... You have passed over my acknowledgement of those facts and his post on it. Scummers love to accuse townies of blue hunting. I feel like i see it all the time. conclusion: SCUM ~~~~~~ hopeless His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense. First he soft defends him. To this: Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him. Otherwise there has been a total lack of content from hopeless. This is the feedback I was looking for earlier. I know your opinion on RNG would have been biased though. He's done some mechanics posts and some troll posts, but his scumhunting is practically non existent. I remember his towngame as having a similar length filter but being more focused on logical scumhunting. Conclusion: SCUM coag There is no amount of effort shown this game, which leans scummy to me. It seems like in his town games, he makes an effort to show you he is town. He doesn't do that at all here. He loves to do this too scummy to be scum shit as scum. Conclusion: SCUM Coag has the power of deep SVENGALI toward me (I cannot ever form a smidgen of some kind of read on him) ~~~~~~~~ yamato town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol) ~~~~~ So one of my scumreads is town. I'm guessing it's either hopeless or coag, because both are pretty unreadable. Hello Kush. I reply to your points in bold above assuming I format right. Now why is unreadability a good thing to you here? I usually am frowned upon for the same. stay CHUPAZI my friends. | ||
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On January 05 2014 17:59 kushm4sta wrote: like he's being clear but not about finding scum Well I have to actually find them first. Thinking you are more right saying Coag is scummy than townie. But I can't begin to read him. I'm not going to push his lynch because I couldn't, I wouldn't be able to say why he were scummy other than "lurkish" (and now OMGUS). | ||
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And so I thought as well, my friend, and had him pretty much conftown. But consider this: If it is truly Random Number Generation, we can follow all his steps and come up with a different lynch. So he just calls it RNG and lands it on a townie. If it is not truly Random Number Generation, (assuming he is scum by the way), than he deserves my as he just does epic bawss maths and lines it up on his mislynch target appropriately.If he is town the reason is obvious: policy in a setup. Perhaps not a very good one. I am flipping my opinion from agreement with the idea to a scum read. | ||
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On January 05 2014 18:16 kushm4sta wrote: I think readability is a choice he makes, and therefore it's a null tell. Not always. | ||
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On January 05 2014 15:58 Coagulation wrote: so this exchange makes rayn look pretty solid town imo [UoN]Sentinel is vig obv town Yamato is playing piss poor and im leaning scum on him. Hes using pretty shit logic like alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum. Kush looks town to me so far. but that aint worth shit cause hes unreadable. Mr. Cheesecake is vet. gonna assume its legit. Hopeless1der sorta got a scum vibe but dunno. mostly null and of course these reads come with the ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l9chR3K.png) Lurker hunting because it was the start. It was something at least, did you prefer the derpy trolling? Because I love to do that frankly Must see with the eyes of CHUPAZI hast thou deep suspicion of stone toward hopeless or is it a fluid finger of distrust? Is Yamato the more concrete read? Ok I admit Kush is kinda right. But sometimes I seriously forget how to talk- I am seriously trying and I fail | ||
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On January 05 2014 18:20 kushm4sta wrote: alaka why are you taking about rng on d2 LOL Because rethinking it is the basis for my developing scum read on hopeless? What else has he- Well I will go read his filter but I get the feeling it is short. | ||
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On January 05 2014 18:25 kushm4sta wrote: coag is actually super town for realizing this. coag: this is dead on You go read hopeless1der's filter and tell me I'm scummier than him. He is soft defending gumshoe the whole time until right close to hammer the first time, where he posts this On January 04 2014 10:32 Hopeless1der wrote: WARNING WE ARE IN HAMMER RANGE --PROCEED WITH CARE-- Followed quickly by this (pages 12 and 13 btw) On January 04 2014 10:42 Hopeless1der wrote: well thats 1 more to hammer. who wants the honor? And he does nothing until after the flip, stating the obvious and some not obvious setup speculation. AND I AM YOUR MAIN TARGET?!!?? | ||
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On January 05 2014 18:49 Hopeless1der wrote: Yamato didnt consider that scum might shoot him...where is his town ego? I'm calling shenanigans. Dudes scum. Good to see you. A few posts up I have a case on you. Care to defend? | ||
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I'll be back tomorrow, and I will be here only a little longer. Was considering holding off on that but frankly I am pretty confident in this read for once in my life. | ||
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Ppl, srsly I live in California. Raynepelikoneet have you read Hopeless1der's filter? Do you know that I openly admitted to the hypocrisy of what I was doing in my case? However! It also was a "for lack of alternative" vote, through a townread/non-read on others at the time, so I am going to filter Yamato and Kush now. I still claim Alakaslam cannot read Coagulation. First I'm going to reread others cases/suspicions. | ||
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On January 05 2014 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alakaslam i want you to clarify a couple of things: You made a case on Hopeless based on him proposing a random lynch and his voting behavior. 1) The random lynch is in fact a random lynch so how is that alignment indicative? Why does proposing a random lynch at the start of the game make Hopeless mafia? 2) Where exactly is Hopeless soft-defending gumshoe on D1, i can't see it? 3) If you are stanfding behind your accusation of Hopeless soft-defending gumshoe, how can you say you were not doing the same thing? In my opinion you (using your terms and logic) are "soft-defending" gumshoe just as much as Hopeless as your voting behavior and stance on random lynch matches exactly Hopeless' on D1. 4) Who is the other mafia in your opinion besides Hopeless? Seeing this again I believe you will want a point by point defense. 1)The fact that the lynch is random means he can actually control it- I.E. Lie that he ran it through RNG because if it is truly random we wouldn't even expect to get the same result and if it isn't truly random he can game the math. HOWEVER THIS DOESNT FORCE HIM TO BE MAFIA. I think you jump to conclusions really fast Rayne, what makes him Mafia is the points I made in tandem, and a lack of other full reads at the time- I admit it was probably rash but I stand by my perception that he is scummy- even still. 2) he keeps being correct- saying that stuff you accused him of doesn't mean he is scum (which we now know was true). Being correct on alignments is not impossible as scum, on the contrary it is significantly easier. I wouldn't use it to cry scum by itself- if town, it's just proper town play. Which segways into my answer for 3) I actually agreed with him on both counts at the time- I wasn't sure gumshoe was scum, it took my epic failure read on you to make me decide I really should let better hunters make the decisions. Finally, the answer to 4) I would like to find out now. Going to read others cases and probably Yamato and Kush contain the other scum. DISCLAIMER: this is me stating the opinions of others and trusting that for a bit. I will develop my own reads and post them in the evening since my relatives are visiting to- I mean, because I will be eating dinner Blazinghand May even post pictures for proof- so please don't hammer someone questionable till I get back? Make sure it is totes scum before you pull such shenannies. ... Eh what do I know. If my not all that reliable anyway scum hunting doesn't make it before lynch, do what you see as right. But there is no need to rush. | ||
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Seems like a lot of people think Kush Yamato, I will now find out why. | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Yamato is at L-1. If he flips green then I want hopeless to die. Because fuck 2 mafia being inside kush/coag/slam--that's just cruel by BH. Real quick I want to agree but point out not because setup speculation but because hopeless is already a scum read who is pushing Yamato. So if Yamato is green it is another peripheral to hopeless being scum. | ||
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On January 06 2014 02:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: If Yamato is red then Hopeless super town and we pretty much win the game. This is a great reason to plynch Yamato, ASSUMING THAT IS TRUE- can you back your statement up Cheesecake? However, I will read Yamato for myself now. | ||
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Note use of the word "Currently", ye skimming. Current discussion, cheesecake dude hopeless mentioned that a vig happened not claimed it. That is UoN. I will look into Kush. | ||
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I'm not going in- depth because Kush is town, but tunneling. Hijole. He also agrees with his target on his target's target ironically. Looking at his filter tempts me to look at Coag but that will be impossible, I will be null or OMGUS. Just really tough for me to read Coag. | ||
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Kush why do you do almost nothing but attack me? | ||
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On January 06 2014 13:26 Hopeless1der wrote: Quick exercise for you guys. Click Yamato's "all filter" (this link) and ctrl+f "slam". Verify the red/bolded section of this post. Especially look for the points that might be an explanation, and especially that might fit the criteria MULTIPLE TIMES BY NOW. (at the time of this post there are 9 instances of "slam" in yamato's filter. 3 of which are quoted from other players, 1 of which is him quoting himself. Quoting this because it is what is making me strongly consider voting Yamato. As for what you say with regard to my wanting stuff to happen, Hopeless, yes I did want things to start. And RNG can come from town. I am saying coupled with general inactivity and stating some obvious things, the RNG lynch is manipulable enough to make you scummier in my eyes. However, if Yamato actually never said why I am town and stuff, and doesn't want to elaborate on it but wants to look like he has? Scum knowledge + me not playing my usual playstyle at all = Yamato call me town for no reason. Looks good in the event I would flip. Problem: I haven't really been up for a real lynch yet. I have been voted but why should scum Yamato push me as townie?- Wait If I can be lylo low hanging fruit. Would be very a la LXIII. But there is WIFOM. I would hope it can be believed he could just actually believe all this- hence I would actually be getting better. | ||
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On January 06 2014 14:14 yamato77 wrote: Don't be a child. Read my posts seriously. Even with my newly raised suspicions I have to point out my +1 to this. Not that the claim was stupid (I see no ill result) but to emo plynch is not grounds for anyone but you. | ||
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On January 06 2014 14:19 yamato77 wrote: You didn't even address my case in full, nor do I particularly care that you picked one sentence in my post to criticize. Martyring by you now is a little dramatic. Yamato did you ever actually say why I am town? | ||
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Very well! I again don't find any scum on Yamato. | ||
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That is the point, if you are scum that is exactly what I was saying! Is that the only reason? Meta?  | ||
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"Is playing better than anyone else in the game" Do you remember what that spec- ... -specifically referred to, if I may ask without looking like a narcissistic pomp? | ||
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You understand I suspected as much in LXIII? And it sort of happened? Heck I think I might have pulled it off in bttb, I cNt remember | ||
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On January 06 2014 14:43 yamato77 wrote: Your day 1 was: 1) Super active. 2) Had a clear push to it. The only thing I can fault you for is that you never really explained why you wanted to lynch gumshoe very well. Well, for those that were curious, here it is. Yeah my vote stays. | ||
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On January 07 2014 00:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Can we all agree to lynch Coag? Like wtf why is he town so sad. Possibly- why is he scum? | ||
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On January 07 2014 00:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Done nothing all game, is coag. policy coag. I am pretty sure of my hopeless read. If too many people think he is town I will submit to a Coag lynch but I just think he is too hard to read to form an opinion myself. | ||
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On January 07 2014 00:30 Hopeless1der wrote: no slam, you submit to the yamato lynch. I swear he is town through neo-OMGUS. However if town takes a vote on forcing my hand I will submit. | ||
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On January 07 2014 11:24 yamato77 wrote: I'm going to ignore you from now on. Multiple times, it displays you aren't ignoring him. And you shouldn't, if town. Still catching up this just made me lol | ||
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On January 07 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree. I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this. Slam says "you kidding me? I consider all NK associations WIFOM. You could easily be thinking exactly what scum wants you to think." Also, read the Bolded in the quote. Hopeless1der read strengthened, thanks Rayne! | ||
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On January 07 2014 13:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i was trying to say is if Hopeless + X is mafia and that's their game plan why does everyone else who could be X say Hopeless is mafia? X = slam,coag,kush Bussing exists. I admit there is no advantage to it I can see right now. However I am not a badass planner. | ||
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On January 07 2014 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: So slam, why are you avoiding the discussion proposed? Which one of kush/Coag is mafia and why? OMGUS wants me to say both but that is impossible. I would say Coag first, Kush is pushing me too hard versus keeping me around like I would expect a scum team to do. Loaded questions can help you scum hunt but they can also help you tunnel, so... My answer to your question is I'm not. I have made my decision and placed my vote, I haven't seen town specifically ask me to help hammer Yamato, so I'm not voting him- he is town IMO. Hopeless has not convinced me he isn't scum and I don't think he can really. | ||
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On January 07 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is the "confirmed townies" are leaning on yamato being scum over Hopeless, whether or not you agree with it. Now it's time to find another scum in you/Coag/kush, because both of Hopeless/yamato are not mafia. Whichever of Hopeless/yamato we lynch that affects the next lynch, and right now you are refusing to contribute to Coag/kush so you look pretty bad. So could you give actual reasons for one of them being mafia over the other one? Make a scum case and a town case because if you are town and you think Hopeless is scum they can't both be scum. Then I look bad? Coag is lurking- oh shee, he always lurk. Kushmasta is not me or Coag, and tunnels me- scum tell, town tell. Hijole man, hopeless scummier than both. Not knowing the answer to your question doesn't make me scum. Lynch me sooner versus later if you must but I would rather you discover it is between Kush/Coag. Heck I think I can tell you in advance what they will tell you; they will say I am scum and repeat what they already said. | ||
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On January 07 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote: Slam says "you kidding me? I consider all NK associations WIFOM. You could easily be thinking exactly what scum wants you to think." Also, read the Bolded in the quote. Hopeless1der read strengthened, thanks Rayne! The original of this is on previous page and I even lol'ed looking in the nested quote | ||
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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
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On January 08 2014 04:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: We need five for a hammer. yamato can sleep or do whatever he needs to do, but I'm not going to sit idly by and give scum any more time than I have to. I would say this is the answer to your question Kush. The problem is this. Prolonging the day allows for a pro-town thing and a pro-scum thing. Respectively, saying more and getting more accurate lynches from better information, versus giving more time to scum to think up Alibi's. Since nothing much is happening and most people have decided, I will acknowledge the impasse that I have with Hopeless1der and give in to the other lynch. Besides there are plans for what to do based on his flip (Cheesecake laid that out), and if he's scum I am probably wrong about a lot. I am getting suspicious that I am being a fool... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On January 08 2014 08:25 Hopeless1der wrote: you could always lynch yamato or else tell me why you thing he's town I think he is town because he sees the game much as I do. Which will be debilitating if he is scum. But now I have done both. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
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On January 08 2014 12:16 yamato77 wrote: You're all horrible. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On January 09 2014 04:07 Blazinghand wrote: okay but even in the event that everyone is bad and not listening to you, surely hammering yourself in mylo isn't the answer? E: not that you weren't about to get hammered by slam anyways, but STILL. come on. HAMMER GO SLAM! I had work but yeah | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I did | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On January 09 2014 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seriously?!?!?!? KUSH HAMMERED HIS TOWNREAD WHO WAS VOTED BY BOTH OF HIS SCUMREADS! God... Yup I said id have to bus him Was thinking I had long hard game ahead of me | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On January 09 2014 05:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Disappointed that I don't see my name very often in scum QT. That's the only reason I play this game You were so bamcis we feared the mention of the vig | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On January 09 2014 05:17 Blazinghand wrote: OH I TOTALLY FORGOT SO I was thinking about the setup and spent a long time discussing it with co-hosts and foolishness since 10-man setups are hard. Here's what we went for: 3 scum (goon goon rb) 7 town (4x VT, 1x Pcop, 1x Vet, 1x vigi) This meant town would get 3 bites at the apple to hit a scum (D1 lynch, N1 shot, D2 lynch) and if they hit a scum in time, they'd make it to D3 and have the pcop check. Obviously this didn't work out, though the amazing N1 might have made up for it. What do you guys think about the balance? I was worried it would be a bit town-favored with the vet, but maybe it was actually scum-favored? U inzult mah skum plai mah boi | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Let's say Rayn did not claim cop. I don't think he would have been mislynched (although possible) so he would have a solved game now instead. I would have shot sent, dunno if Kush would have agreed. Even with Ryan's claim, if Coag did not self hammer I would have come back and tried to go after Coag. But if Kush or I were lynched, game would have been solved. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On January 09 2014 05:30 Hopeless1der wrote: Yes. Let it be known that hopeless1der was solely responsible for getting yamato lynched. No other player had any say in the matter nor could they or yamato himself have affected the outcome in any way. All bow to the hopeless one. Pfft | ||
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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
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On January 09 2014 07:13 kushm4sta wrote: Also the only town who correctly read alakaslam was coag. So epic mein kushmasta | ||
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