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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:37 GMT
#781
On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).

Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.

So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town.

Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now.

I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree.
I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
January 07 2014 04:37 GMT
#782
Vote Count

Hopeless1der (2) - Yamato77, Alakaslam,
Alakaslam (2) - kushm4sta, Coagulation

Not Voting (4) - raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheescake, Hopeless1der, [UoN]Sentinel

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 04:40 GMT
#783
On January 07 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).

Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.

So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town.

Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now.

I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree.
I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this.

Well you asked "Why is mafia not bringing this up?"

And Hopeless is, so...
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:46 GMT
#784
What i was trying to say is if Hopeless + X is mafia and that's their game plan why does everyone else who could be X say Hopeless is mafia?

X = slam,coag,kush
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 04:51 GMT
#785
they all say he is mafia.. but look at some of their reasons -.- coag...
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:54 GMT
#786
I would like to see discussion between people that are not me/CC/Sent. I don't care much about yamato <-> Hopeless argument because it's clear why both of those people think each other is scum.

More interested in everything else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:57 GMT
#787
Unless yamato want's to accuse me of being scum of course.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 05:03 GMT
#788
You know my read of everyone in the game. I will go through those three again later after some rest.
Writer@WriterYamato
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 05:38 GMT
#789
Yamato I gotta laugh when you have told Rayne this

On January 07 2014 11:24 yamato77 wrote:
I'm going to ignore you from now on.


Multiple times, it displays you aren't ignoring him. And you shouldn't, if town.

Still catching up this just made me lol
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 05:49 GMT
#790
On January 07 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).

Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.

So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town.

Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now.

I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree.
I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this.

Slam says "you kidding me? I consider all NK associations WIFOM. You could easily be thinking exactly what scum wants you to think."

Also, read the Bolded in the quote.

Hopeless1der read strengthened, thanks Rayne!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 05:50 GMT
#791
Lol Yamato already said it earlier included in that quote
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 05:51 GMT
#792
On January 07 2014 13:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i was trying to say is if Hopeless + X is mafia and that's their game plan why does everyone else who could be X say Hopeless is mafia?

X = slam,coag,kush

Bussing exists. I admit there is no advantage to it I can see right now. However I am not a badass planner.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 06:33 GMT
#793
So slam, why are you avoiding the discussion proposed?
Which one of kush/Coag is mafia and why?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 06:48 GMT
#794
On January 07 2014 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So slam, why are you avoiding the discussion proposed?
Which one of kush/Coag is mafia and why?

OMGUS wants me to say both but that is impossible.

I would say Coag first, Kush is pushing me too hard versus keeping me around like I would expect a scum team to do.

Loaded questions can help you scum hunt but they can also help you tunnel, so...

My answer to your question is I'm not. I have made my decision and placed my vote, I haven't seen town specifically ask me to help hammer Yamato, so I'm not voting him- he is town IMO.

Hopeless has not convinced me he isn't scum and I don't think he can really.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 06:53 GMT
#795
The point is the "confirmed townies" are leaning on yamato being scum over Hopeless, whether or not you agree with it. Now it's time to find another scum in you/Coag/kush, because both of Hopeless/yamato are not mafia.

Whichever of Hopeless/yamato we lynch that affects the next lynch, and right now you are refusing to contribute to Coag/kush so you look pretty bad. So could you give actual reasons for one of them being mafia over the other one? Make a scum case and a town case because if you are town and you think Hopeless is scum they can't both be scum.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 06:58 GMT
#796
You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:03 GMT
#797
On January 07 2014 15:58 yamato77 wrote:
You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool.

Why do you post shit like this instead of something useful?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 07:06 GMT
#798
On January 07 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point is the "confirmed townies" are leaning on yamato being scum over Hopeless, whether or not you agree with it. Now it's time to find another scum in you/Coag/kush, because both of Hopeless/yamato are not mafia.

Whichever of Hopeless/yamato we lynch that affects the next lynch, and right now you are refusing to contribute to Coag/kush so you look pretty bad. So could you give actual reasons for one of them being mafia over the other one? Make a scum case and a town case because if you are town and you think Hopeless is scum they can't both be scum.

Then I look bad?

Coag is lurking- oh shee, he always lurk.

Kushmasta is not me or Coag, and tunnels me- scum tell, town tell.

Hijole man, hopeless scummier than both.

Not knowing the answer to your question doesn't make me scum. Lynch me sooner versus later if you must but I would rather you discover it is between Kush/Coag.

Heck I think I can tell you in advance what they will tell you; they will say I am scum and repeat what they already said.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:13 GMT
#799
Slam you are saying you find yamato town because he agrees with you a lot. What exactly does he agree with you on besides the scumread on Hopeless?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:18 GMT
#800
kush and Coag: Which one of yamato & Hopeless do you think is mafia and which one is town. Make a scum case and a town case please. Or do you think both of them are scum/town?
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