|
On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).
Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.
So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town. Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now. I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree. I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this.
|
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Vote Count
Hopeless1der (2) - Yamato77, Alakaslam, Alakaslam (2) - kushm4sta, Coagulation
Not Voting (4) - raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheescake, Hopeless1der, [UoN]Sentinel
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
|
11589 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).
Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.
So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town. Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now. I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree. I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this. Well you asked "Why is mafia not bringing this up?"
And Hopeless is, so...
|
What i was trying to say is if Hopeless + X is mafia and that's their game plan why does everyone else who could be X say Hopeless is mafia?
X = slam,coag,kush
|
they all say he is mafia.. but look at some of their reasons -.- coag...
|
I would like to see discussion between people that are not me/CC/Sent. I don't care much about yamato <-> Hopeless argument because it's clear why both of those people think each other is scum.
More interested in everything else.
|
Unless yamato want's to accuse me of being scum of course.
|
11589 Posts
You know my read of everyone in the game. I will go through those three again later after some rest.
|
Yamato I gotta laugh when you have told Rayne this
On January 07 2014 11:24 yamato77 wrote: I'm going to ignore you from now on.
Multiple times, it displays you aren't ignoring him. And you shouldn't, if town.
Still catching up this just made me lol
|
On January 07 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).
Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.
So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town. Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now. I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree. I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this. Slam says "you kidding me? I consider all NK associations WIFOM. You could easily be thinking exactly what scum wants you to think."
Also, read the Bolded in the quote.
Hopeless1der read strengthened, thanks Rayne!
|
Lol Yamato already said it earlier included in that quote
|
On January 07 2014 13:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i was trying to say is if Hopeless + X is mafia and that's their game plan why does everyone else who could be X say Hopeless is mafia?
X = slam,coag,kush Bussing exists. I admit there is no advantage to it I can see right now. However I am not a badass planner.
|
So slam, why are you avoiding the discussion proposed? Which one of kush/Coag is mafia and why?
|
On January 07 2014 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: So slam, why are you avoiding the discussion proposed? Which one of kush/Coag is mafia and why? OMGUS wants me to say both but that is impossible.
I would say Coag first, Kush is pushing me too hard versus keeping me around like I would expect a scum team to do.
Loaded questions can help you scum hunt but they can also help you tunnel, so...
My answer to your question is I'm not. I have made my decision and placed my vote, I haven't seen town specifically ask me to help hammer Yamato, so I'm not voting him- he is town IMO.
Hopeless has not convinced me he isn't scum and I don't think he can really.
|
The point is the "confirmed townies" are leaning on yamato being scum over Hopeless, whether or not you agree with it. Now it's time to find another scum in you/Coag/kush, because both of Hopeless/yamato are not mafia.
Whichever of Hopeless/yamato we lynch that affects the next lynch, and right now you are refusing to contribute to Coag/kush so you look pretty bad. So could you give actual reasons for one of them being mafia over the other one? Make a scum case and a town case because if you are town and you think Hopeless is scum they can't both be scum.
|
11589 Posts
You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool.
|
On January 07 2014 15:58 yamato77 wrote: You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool. Why do you post shit like this instead of something useful?
|
On January 07 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is the "confirmed townies" are leaning on yamato being scum over Hopeless, whether or not you agree with it. Now it's time to find another scum in you/Coag/kush, because both of Hopeless/yamato are not mafia.
Whichever of Hopeless/yamato we lynch that affects the next lynch, and right now you are refusing to contribute to Coag/kush so you look pretty bad. So could you give actual reasons for one of them being mafia over the other one? Make a scum case and a town case because if you are town and you think Hopeless is scum they can't both be scum. Then I look bad?
Coag is lurking- oh shee, he always lurk.
Kushmasta is not me or Coag, and tunnels me- scum tell, town tell.
Hijole man, hopeless scummier than both.
Not knowing the answer to your question doesn't make me scum. Lynch me sooner versus later if you must but I would rather you discover it is between Kush/Coag.
Heck I think I can tell you in advance what they will tell you; they will say I am scum and repeat what they already said.
|
Slam you are saying you find yamato town because he agrees with you a lot. What exactly does he agree with you on besides the scumread on Hopeless?
|
kush and Coag: Which one of yamato & Hopeless do you think is mafia and which one is town. Make a scum case and a town case please. Or do you think both of them are scum/town?
|
|
|
|