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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 03:41 GMT
#761
On January 07 2014 12:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I've addressed the claim situation, you're taking this a bit far. You fakeclaim often as both alignments, I do not trust you at all in any situation involving claims.

I literally said i fakeclaim often as mafia so back up your statement.


I meant jointly. Not independently as either alignment.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2014 03:43 GMT
#762
"i did not intentionally lie"
>>I needed a shite reason to doubt rayns claim because he's confirmed town and I cant have him leading people so I just made a bullshit blanket statement so I could choose to ignore his claim. Gawd such townlieness
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 03:44 GMT
#763
shut up hopeless.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2014 03:46 GMT
#764
die scum die
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 03:48 GMT
#765
On January 07 2014 12:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I've addressed the claim situation, you're taking this a bit far. You fakeclaim often as both alignments, I do not trust you at all in any situation involving claims.

I literally said i fakeclaim often as mafia so back up your statement.


I meant jointly. Not independently as either alignment.

If you think i fakeclaim cop as either town or mafia one hour into the game when there is literally no fucking reson to do so you are absolutely terrible at this game. You didn't even look at my reason for why i claimed, which was i wanted you and thrawn to scumhunt me and not consider me as possibly scum because my role is useless for me because if i do not die on N1 or N2 i am doing something wrong in this game and town will lose.

Instead both of you and thrawn (who was btw mafia) decide to not weigh the reasons for me to truthfully claim as town but you discredit me and decide to not scumhunt with me. That's fucking stupid, you are not even thinking my reasons for claiming, you are discrediting me "because rayn has fakeclaimed before", in situations that are ENTIRELY FUCKING DIFFERENT THAN IN THIS GAME!

That's bullshit yamato, so much bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 03:54 GMT
#766
If you are town i would assume you would be willing to admit you made a mistake and instead of banging your head against the wall with voting for Hopeless you would say something like "okay guys, since you CC/Sent/rayn want to lynch me over Hopeless let's try it this way. At least take your votes off me, because it's clear me and Hopeless are not both mafia, let me and Hopeless give reads on Coagulation/kush/Alakaslam and discuss those reads, because there is at least one mafia in that pool".

That would be reasonable. Unless you are mafia and know when you flip Hopeless becomes "confirmed" and you don't wanna out your scumbuddy.

So why are you being stubborn and not taking different approach?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 04:01 GMT
#767
I tried to ask Hopeless to do that, but he didn't even respond.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 04:01 GMT
#768
On January 07 2014 06:10 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 06:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 07 2014 05:50 yamato77 wrote:
If you're going to lynch me, you need new justifications for calling me mafia.

would me flipping town suffice?

No, that would just make me wrong.

I've been wrong as town before.

If I'm wrong about you, let's talk about the other three unconfirmed players, because no matter what, ONE OF THEM is mafia.

Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:04 GMT
#769
Yeah that's actually true. So, both of you, could you give your reads on Coag/Slam/kush?
And yamato please do not call Slam town because you are able to read what he writes, i don't think that's a good reason to call someone town.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2014 04:06 GMT
#770
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 07 2014 03:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 15:58 Coagulation wrote:
On January 04 2014 12:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 04 2014 12:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also you think there could be a mafia motivation behind me claiming, but you won't elaborate on why. All you have to say is "sayn has fakecalimed as scum before, therefore he could be fakeclaiming now". That's really fishy thrawn. Why are you refusing to give your reasoning?


Here's the deal, I'm done talking about your claim for right now, so make what you will of it. Yes, I am straight up refusing to talk to you about this and you're just gonna have to deal with it.


so this exchange makes rayn look pretty solid town imo


[UoN]Sentinel is vig obv town



Yamato is playing piss poor and im leaning scum on him. Hes using pretty shit logic like

On January 05 2014 05:33 yamato77 wrote:
You would not lynch me before coag or kush in a game like this, don't be silly.



alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum.


Kush looks town to me so far. but that aint worth shit cause hes unreadable.


Mr. Cheesecake is vet. gonna assume its legit.


Hopeless1der sorta got a scum vibe but dunno. mostly null

and of course these reads come with the
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On January 06 2014 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
Wanna lynch hopeless, coag/kush?


Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 09:06 Coagulation wrote:
I can get behind that. Lemme double check his filter


Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 23:25 Coagulation wrote:
##vote hopeless

...

On January 07 2014 07:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
lynch yamato if/when i flip. coag after him, then kush.


And also why wouldn't you just...do the whole here are all my reads, look how hopeless cant string a sentence together besides tunnelling me.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 04:06 GMT
#771
If I'm going to do anything, votes come off me.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:08 GMT
#772
I took my vote off from you yamato. If someone hammers you before discussion they claim scum.
Hopeless explain how does that make Coagulation mafia over kushmasta and slam who have similar inconsistancies in their reads? Like, kush literally gave out reads that were based on something the person never did in this game.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2014 04:14 GMT
#773
thats why kush is after coag in my matyring posts. Slam did things like asking what L-2 meant and flipflopping really hard when you claimed cop between you/gumshoe/yamato, read like he was legit trying to figure out wtf was happening, I think he's town
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 04:14 GMT
#774
Playing dota with hapa, will post after.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 04:15 GMT
#775
On January 07 2014 13:14 yamato77 wrote:
Playing dota with hapa, will post after.


tell hapa i said hi
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2014 04:16 GMT
#776
blergh....im going to bed then. ##Unvote
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#777
Just a warning, the weather in my area is expected to jump from -5 to 70 Fahrenheit, about -21 to 21 Celsius, from Tuesday to Friday. I'm probably going to be very sick by the end of the week as a result but I'll do my best to stay on.

Unvoting for now.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#778
On January 04 2014 12:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
dont hammer gumshoe at least until tmrw.

I agree yam is not his usual awesome gosu townie self, so im scummy on him.

Im sure rayn and slam are town. Idk about sent, didnt like his entrance it was scummy but hes slowed down and had some ok posts. Hopeless hasnt done much but its more thsn when hes maf.

And gum has had some scummy stuff like piggy backing off yamato bringing up my opener and never following it up.kush and coag... null obv.

So that leaves in order from scum to town

gum
yam
kush / coag / sent
hopless
slam
rayn
me

Idk where thrawn lies in this yet. Yay lists froom phone


Does anyone think this is WIFOM?

Why was yamato not shot on N1? If i was mafia in anyone's shoes in this game (not counting me/yamato) and i knew rayn & yamato were town i would assume rayn will get protected in case of medic. Just because he accused thrawn and even if my team shoots him thrawn will get lynched for it most likely on D2.

Why the fuck would anyone shoot Mr.CC over yamato if yamato is town?

Especially wanting kushmasta, Coagulation and Alakaslam to contribute on this one. Hopeless will ofc say "because yamato is scum" and yamato will say "WIFOM or whatever i was useless" .
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 04:28 GMT
#779
Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).

Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.

So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 04:33 GMT
#780
On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).

Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.

So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town.

Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now.
Writer@WriterYamato
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