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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 07:21 GMT
#801
There is a post on this or previous page, gimme sec
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 07:21 GMT
#802
That would happen
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2014 07:22 GMT
#803
On January 07 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 13:33 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because let's assume yamato is town. Town has mislynched on D1. There is no reason to assume Cheesecake is blue (or is there?).

Cheesecake has no read on thrawn. Cheesecake thinks yamato is mafia, he is his top scumread. This would imply Cheesecake is on the wrong track, hell he can be even blamed on D2 for hammering gumshoe.

So again, if you think yamato is town, why did mafia shoot a person who was on a wrong track on D1 and did not have a scumread on the flipped scum? Why did mafia let yamato - a possible town leader - alive on N1? If this is in fact the case and this is WIFOM, why is mafia not bringing this up to mislynch yamato? This is a reasonable assumption, why is mafia not using that as their advantage if yamato is town.

Just for the record, Hopeless has used this logic multiple times now.

I don't think it's necessarily fault logic but it's no use of discussing it with you as you'll obviously disagree.
I wanna know what kush, coag and slam think about this.

Slam says "you kidding me? I consider all NK associations WIFOM. You could easily be thinking exactly what scum wants you to think."

Also, read the Bolded in the quote.

Hopeless1der read strengthened, thanks Rayne!

The original of this is on previous page and I even lol'ed looking in the nested quote
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 07:25 GMT
#804
On January 07 2014 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 15:58 yamato77 wrote:
You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool.

Why do you post shit like this instead of something useful?

I've posted plenty of useful things. Do your own scumhunting instead of badgering other people to do it for you.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:25 GMT
#805
Night kill analysis is never WIFOM because in every single game scum night kill who they do for a reason. Saying there is no way to analyse why mafia killed someone is entirely incorrect.

So why do you think mafia hit MR.Cheesecake. There is always a reason why mafia kills who they kill, what do you think was their reason?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 07:28 GMT
#806
On January 07 2014 14:03 yamato77 wrote:
You know my read of everyone in the game. I will go through those three again later after some rest.

And instead of doing this you bash me for not doing scumhunting while that's exactly what i am doing and you are just posting shit like:
On January 07 2014 15:58 yamato77 wrote:
You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool.

On January 07 2014 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 15:58 yamato77 wrote:
You can't put "confirmed townies" in quotes like that and bitch at me for not just acquiescing to your confirmedness. It's just not cool.

Why do you post shit like this instead of something useful?

I've posted plenty of useful things. Do your own scumhunting instead of badgering other people to do it for you.

So if you are town please cut the crap and do what you promised to do.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 07:29 GMT
#807
I haven't slept yet, I'm allowed to lurk in the thread from time to time. I'm weighing my reads.
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 07 2014 11:18 GMT
#808
sup rayn i think both are probably town
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 11:47 GMT
#809
Vote: kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 07 2014 11:55 GMT
#810
whyd you do that rayn
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 12:10 GMT
#811
This is your read on Alakaslam:
"He has said stuff that i can understand and i think his scumplay would look like this."
This is not a read.

This is your read on Coag (notice no posts from Coag between these changes):
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
coag
There is no amount of effort shown this game, which leans scummy to me. It seems like in his town games, he makes an effort to show you he is town. He doesn't do that at all here.
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 10:53 Coagulation wrote:
guis dont ignore me. say my name.

He loves to do this too scummy to be scum shit as scum.
Conclusion: SCUM

Coag makes his big post.
On January 05 2014 17:06 kushm4sta wrote:
lol coag I'm so readable. You just haven't seen my scum game recently to know how bad it looks. but yeah coag looks pretty town and I agree with his reads.

On January 05 2014 18:25 kushm4sta wrote:
coag is actually super town for realizing this.
coag:
Show nested quote +
alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum.

this is dead on

This is btw dead wrong.
When i ask about it kush does not change his read on Coag but that makes Alakaslam more scummy..
On January 06 2014 02:33 kushm4sta wrote:
i thought coag's post was really insightful actually. his ratio of insight to effort pwns everyone else in this game. that is of why i fear he may be busing.
I see it like this:
If alaka is town, which is possible i guess but I doubt it, coag is town.
If alaka is scum, 30% chance coag is busing.

From supertown -> bussing.
On January 06 2014 09:00 kushm4sta wrote:
honestly i don't think coag would taint the sanctity of his town badge

And back to town.
On January 07 2014 01:16 kushm4sta wrote:
i'm not ready to swear coag is town but I think he's town.

On January 07 2014 03:09 kushm4sta wrote:
coag -alaka scumteam calling it now

Into scum. Notice that Coagulation does not make a single alignment indicative post between here, other than votes for Alakaslam, something kushmasta wanted him to do. That should be a town tell.

The whole read is full of shit and makes zero sense.


This is your read on yamato:
kush: "yamato is town because of reason X".
rayn: "point out to me where yamato did X"
kush: "you are right, there is no X"
Then you call yamato scummy for various reasons.
But in the end he is town. No reasoning given.
This is not a read, this is bullshit.

This is your read on Hopeless:
You point out many stuff you think Hopeless has done that is really scummy in your opinion.
Conclusion: Hopeless is a lynchbait and town.
This is not a read, this is bullshit.

And that's it. That's why you are scum.
Your reads are based on nothing, nothing at all. They are full of contradictions and change with no reasoning.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 07 2014 12:19 GMT
#812
you are just selectively reading like you always do.
read my filter again
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 12:23 GMT
#813
From this:
On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless
His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense.
First he soft defends him.
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.

no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons.

And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me?
What exactly are you saying here?

im saying gumshoe not making sense could be because hes confused, not necessarily mafia. You're totes town

To this:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 10:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he does not think i am mafia i have no reason to lie about why i claimed in the first place, which i stated was not because of pressure. Either way he is bullshitting.

I'll be honest, I didnt read very closely the first time around. gumshoe is a good lynch. but, BETTER THAN RNG? I DUNNO.

Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him.

Otherwise there has been a total lack of content from hopeless. He's done some mechanics posts and some troll posts, but his scumhunting is practically non existent. I remember his towngame as having a similar length filter but being more focused on logical scumhunting.

Conclusion: SCUM


Into this:
On January 07 2014 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless can you explain in better detail why you decided to vote gumshoe?

[QUOTE]On January 07 2014 02:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
This is what "changed my mind" about gumshoe. Accusing rayn of waiting until he was "under fire" and "reacting to pressure" to claim parity cop. I had only skimmed his posts and understood he couldn't understand why rayn claimed the way he did. When I actually sat down and read things through, I thought it was scummy.

Also, who actually thought an RNG lynch would get pushed? i did that for the hell of it because Slam wanted things to happen
[quote]
[QUOTE]On January 07 2014 02:46 kushm4sta wrote:
i tihnk i might have just had that moment when i realized my scumreads are shit[/QUOTE]
Hopeless' stance on gumshoe makes him mafia -> Hopeless' stance on gumshoe makes him town.

Guess who does not read filters as mafia. kushmasta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 12:24 GMT
#814
EBWOP:
From this:
On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless
His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense.
First he soft defends him.
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.

no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons.

And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me?
What exactly are you saying here?

im saying gumshoe not making sense could be because hes confused, not necessarily mafia. You're totes town

To this:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 10:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he does not think i am mafia i have no reason to lie about why i claimed in the first place, which i stated was not because of pressure. Either way he is bullshitting.

I'll be honest, I didnt read very closely the first time around. gumshoe is a good lynch. but, BETTER THAN RNG? I DUNNO.

Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him.

Otherwise there has been a total lack of content from hopeless. He's done some mechanics posts and some troll posts, but his scumhunting is practically non existent. I remember his towngame as having a similar length filter but being more focused on logical scumhunting.

Conclusion: SCUM


Into this:
On January 07 2014 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless can you explain in better detail why you decided to vote gumshoe?

On January 07 2014 02:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
This is what "changed my mind" about gumshoe. Accusing rayn of waiting until he was "under fire" and "reacting to pressure" to claim parity cop. I had only skimmed his posts and understood he couldn't understand why rayn claimed the way he did. When I actually sat down and read things through, I thought it was scummy.

Also, who actually thought an RNG lynch would get pushed? i did that for the hell of it because Slam wanted things to happen

On January 07 2014 02:46 kushm4sta wrote:
i tihnk i might have just had that moment when i realized my scumreads are shit

Hopeless' stance on gumshoe makes him mafia -> Hopeless' stance on gumshoe makes him town.

Guess who does not read filters as mafia. kushmasta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 12:27 GMT
#815
This game is fucking shit because nobody is making any sense..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 12:30 GMT
#816
kushmasta's reads are contradictory and irrational.
Coagulation just idk.. just says whatever and votes for whatever.
Alakaslam is not making any sense and refuses to give detailed reads.
yamato refuses to play and calls me stupid instead.
Hopeless is making some sense but it's pretty easy when noone else is making any sense. When asked to do something does nothing.

I have no fucking idea what to do.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 07 2014 12:31 GMT
#817
i kind of see whawt you are sayign rayn. i will be back later to elaborate on my reads
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 07 2014 12:33 GMT
#818
Like kush, i can somehow see what is up with your reads. Could you explain your Coag read's evolution when you get a chance.
##unvote
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Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
January 07 2014 13:33 GMT
#819
Vote Count

Hopeless1der (2) - Yamato77, Alakaslam,
Alakaslam (2) - kushm4sta, Coagulation
kushm4sta (0) - raynpelikonnet

Not Voting (4) - raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheescake, Hopeless1der, [UoN]Sentinel

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2014 17:09 GMT
#820
so how long we giving yamato?
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