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On January 04 2014 08:53 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment? I'll say this now, I dont think you were under enough pressure as scum to gamble on a hail marry claim(and its likely youd be lynched in case of a counterclaim anyways) but I feel youve made a mistake as town ) :
If i do not lynch mafia on D1 then i have definitely made a mistake but in my opinion this gives me much higher chances of lynching scum. I don't have to worry about people worrying about me. As i said me being parity cop is same as me being vanilla. I get a first scum check at best on D3. In my opinion at that point of the game there should be 2 mafia dead already. If there is not i am doing something wrong. If i am alive on D3 i am doing something wrong. Therefore me being a parity cop has no upsides besides the fact that if i claim it people can actually trust me and trust my thoughts to have a townie agenda without thinking about the possible scum motivations behind them.
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On January 04 2014 08:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment? This wouldn't be a policy lynch, because that statement is so scummy- coupled with gumshoe asking the cop to counterclaim?!?!? I'm back to thinking you are scum together! Ugh I don't trust my own reads
But you just said this:
On January 04 2014 08:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards.
I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment.
Now let's lynch mafia shall we? K look there are huge problems with this, I could actually totes lynch you with Yamato on this alone. If you are actually blue you just gave up that power's usefulness and if you are scum, the real cop can't counterclaim you without outing himself to you.Most will know this and therefore that it is essentially WIFOM, also I think YOU know better enough to know all that.
Especially the bolded part. You do not explain why i am scum for claiming. You jsut say you want to lynch me for my claim. You never explain why my calim makes sense from a scum perspective.
Either elaborate on why am i scum or drop it. Right now.
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On January 04 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment? I'll say this now, I dont think you were under enough pressure as scum to gamble on a hail marry claim(and its likely youd be lynched in case of a counterclaim anyways) but I feel youve made a mistake as town ) : If i do not lynch mafia on D1 then i have definitely made a mistake but in my opinion this gives me much higher chances of lynching scum. I don't have to worry about people worrying about me. As i said me being parity cop is same as me being vanilla. I get a first scum check at best on D3. In my opinion at that point of the game there should be 2 mafia dead already. If there is not i am doing something wrong. If i am alive on D3 i am doing something wrong. Therefore me being a parity cop has no upsides besides the fact that if i claim it people can actually trust me and trust my thoughts to have a townie agenda without thinking about the possible scum motivations behind them.
Dude.
I mean yes I could see how the role is pretty useless then and probably not worth scum's time to fish out. But if you are scum? You just gave yourself the key to ultimate Svengali play, and a free day worth of survival if not more assuming you are believed!
It doesn't accomplish the trust you need man, it makes stuff worse.
But really, it would be super ballsy scum play. Counterclaiming would decrease chances of a mislynch to 50%!
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One more post about discussing this without explaining why i am scum and i am policy lynching you Slam.
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On January 04 2014 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:54 Alakaslam wrote:On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment? This wouldn't be a policy lynch, because that statement is so scummy- coupled with gumshoe asking the cop to counterclaim?!?!? I'm back to thinking you are scum together! Ugh I don't trust my own reads But you just said this: Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:50 Alakaslam wrote:On January 04 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards.
I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment.
Now let's lynch mafia shall we? K look there are huge problems with this, I could actually totes lynch you with Yamato on this alone. If you are actually blue you just gave up that power's usefulness and if you are scum, the real cop can't counterclaim you without outing himself to you.Most will know this and therefore that it is essentially WIFOM, also I think YOU know better enough to know all that. Especially the bolded part. You do not explain why i am scum for claiming. You jsut say you want to lynch me for my claim. You never explain why my calim makes sense from a scum perspective. Either elaborate on why am i scum or drop it. Right now.
Again if you are scum this statement completely removes pressure from you, this is absolutely why it is WIFOM, unless cop decides to counterclaim- if you are town then I assume you are frustrated with my not being convinced by this claim -_-
It is so bad man.
Check dat voting thread
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You have now made 4 posts about my claim where you say "he could be town or he could be scum".
Which is it? If you don't know do something else. Being wishy-washy about it does not get you anywhere.
So which is it, town or scum?
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On January 04 2014 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One more post about discussing this without explaining why i am scum and i am policy lynching you Slam.
yeah, this is why I'm lynching you. You are refusing to see what I'm saying. You are scum because you are
1: Blue Hunting
2: Fakeclaiming
3: bullying anyone who opposes you and using it as grounds to mislynch
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Okay so Slam is town but just very stupid.
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On January 04 2014 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have now made 4 posts about my claim where you say "he could be town or he could be scum".
Which is it? If you don't know do something else. Being wishy-washy about it does not get you anywhere.
So which is it, town or scum?
Scum.
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On January 04 2014 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so Slam is town but just very stupid.
Nice discredit explain? How on earth I what you are doing any better than the biggest WIFOM bomb I have ever seen plus a ton of Svengali? Why on earth should town believe your claim even if the parity cop role is so useless? I will even answer that- because it wouldn't be worth the risk to make suh a fakeclaim as scum.
But the problem with that is it is like combining a bus with blue hunting, and you can count on town arriving at that same conclusion anyway!
WIFOM is the greatest scum strategy IMO.
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On January 04 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment? I'll say this now, I dont think you were under enough pressure as scum to gamble on a hail marry claim(and its likely youd be lynched in case of a counterclaim anyways) but I feel youve made a mistake as town ) : If i do not lynch mafia on D1 then i have definitely made a mistake but in my opinion this gives me much higher chances of lynching scum. I don't have to worry about people worrying about me. As i said me being parity cop is same as me being vanilla. I get a first scum check at best on D3. In my opinion at that point of the game there should be 2 mafia dead already. If there is not i am doing something wrong. If i am alive on D3 i am doing something wrong. Therefore me being a parity cop has no upsides besides the fact that if i claim it people can actually trust me and trust my thoughts to have a townie agenda without thinking about the possible scum motivations behind them.
If your plan was to reveal from so early on, why did you wait until you came under fire to reveal? You used your role like a mothership recall after a hatchery snipe XD that doesnt strike me as transparent or townie, also your plan doesnt allow much for error / : what if we lynch one scum and one townie( Which very well may have happened considering you were just trying to lynch me) then that parity cop comes pretty damm in handy. But whateves, like I said not much to do if theres no other claim, but I still find your play rather wasteful, and oddly enough equal parts cynical and optimistic.
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gumshoe do you think i feel pressured regardless of what anyone says about me 2h into the game as mafia?
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On January 04 2014 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so Slam is town but just very stupid. Nice discredit explain? How on earth I what you are doing any better than the biggest WIFOM bomb I have ever seen plus a ton of Svengali? Why on earth should town believe your claim even if the parity cop role is so useless? I will even answer that- because it wouldn't be worth the risk to make suh a fakeclaim as scum. But the problem with that is it is like combining a bus with blue hunting, and you can count on town arriving at that same conclusion anyway! WIFOM is the greatest scum strategy IMO.
I honestly don't give a shit because you have obviously no idea about what i would or would not do as mafia and why.
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On January 04 2014 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe do you think i feel pressured regardless of what anyone says about me 2h into the game as mafia?
You didn't announce your role until after people started questioning you, so obviously it was a response to pressure. Are you scum? No, thats not at all likely unless a counter claim comes so your right, no point talking bout it.
Im heading to a friends now, looking forward to peoples reactions when I come back, later all.
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On January 04 2014 09:22 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe do you think i feel pressured regardless of what anyone says about me 2h into the game as mafia? You didn't announce your role until after people started questioning you, so obviously it was a response to pressure. Are you scum? No, thats not at all likely unless a counter claim comes so your right, no point talking bout it. Im heading to a friends now, looking forward to peoples reactions when I come back, later all.
That does not answer my question at all. And no, i was not under pressure, yamato called me possibly mafia for bullshit reasoning - something you yourself agreed with.
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I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.
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On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.
no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons.
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On January 04 2014 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm. no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons.
And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me?
What exactly are you saying here?
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On January 04 2014 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm. no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons. And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me? What exactly are you saying here?
im saying gumshoe not making sense could be because hes confused, not necessarily mafia. You're totes town
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