Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity?

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 03 2014 23:22 GMT

#183

It was my way of shifting the discussion to a more appropriate target for consideration.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

January 03 2014 23:22 GMT

#184

On January 04 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote:

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Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity?

Rayn and Gumshoe both claim town, therefore this is a counterclaim scenario.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

January 03 2014 23:24 GMT

#185

On January 04 2014 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

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Rayn and Gumshoe both claim town, therefore this is a counterclaim scenario.

XD there can be more than one town, your argument is invalid.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

January 03 2014 23:24 GMT

#186

On January 04 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote:

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Dont like this ) : we should never be tryng to box ourselves in so early on unless were in a counter claim scenario, why do you feel the need to constrain just because Rayn is playing reckless/baity?

Now I feel townier about Gumshoe. If I was under pressure as mafia, and some random townie (assuming yam town) aspired to kill rayn (town in this case) and not me I would be happy to shut up and let Yamato push my agenda.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

January 03 2014 23:27 GMT

#187

On January 04 2014 08:19 yamato77 wrote:

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1) You're being too friendly to me.

2) You're being too aggressive towards gumshoe based on a stupid question that YOU asked him.

1) What in your opinion i would be doing as town? I mean exactly how i would act towards you as town in your opinion?
2) Why is it a stupid question and why is aggressiveness a scumtell, especially for me?

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

January 03 2014 23:27 GMT

#188

Ok everything essentially just became a food fight from my perspective.

At first I was thinking Rayne and Gumshoe scum, because seeing the layout concerns Rayne pointed out coupled with gumeshoe's post implying what I am doing is usually seen as scummy in reply to him, it looked like something to be able to lynch LHF with no recompense.

Then, after they talk a bit, I see Rayne going after gumshoe for said post and I'm like "well they certainly aren't scum together" and then Yamato77 wildly says between them he would go after Rayne!

Then gumshoe explains himself to Rayne and it makes sense- my how my reads fly -_-

This makes me ask, what are people's thoughts about hopeless and I rng'ing Kush? He has said nothing, and we are what, a couple hours into the game? I mean seriously, are we wrong/scummy or vote with us? Or what in between?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

January 03 2014 23:29 GMT

#189

Slam it's not like "wrong/scummy or vote with us".
It's like discussing random lynch is completely useless and stupid and stop it.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

January 03 2014 23:30 GMT

#190

On January 04 2014 08:22 yamato77 wrote:
It was my way of shifting the discussion to a more appropriate target for consideration.

Rayne being nicer to you than usual is not grounds to call him a better target. What else makes you think he may be scum?

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

January 03 2014 23:31 GMT

#191

On January 04 2014 08:22 yamato77 wrote:
It was my way of shifting the discussion to a more appropriate target for consideration.

Actually you didnt,when rayn attacked me HE was the one who opened up the rayn/gum lynch potential, your just limiting us to that one option under the guise of "shifting" discussion. This could easily be you fixing up a certain mislynch scenario, in which you lean on killing the more experienced player but will happily lynch the lesser one. You should tread more carefully if your scum yamato, wayward drones can be sniped very fast indeed in this setup.

##Vote yamato

What do you think of Cheescake still being silly when the game has comfortably passed the cheese stage?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

January 03 2014 23:37 GMT

#192

On January 04 2014 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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I also want to know where do you base this statement of yours on?

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

January 03 2014 23:37 GMT

#193

On January 04 2014 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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I've answered your question, but I understand if you more interested in getting town lynched than actually reading the thread.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

January 03 2014 23:38 GMT

#194

Oh sorry i missed you post on the last page gumshoe.
##unvote

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

January 03 2014 23:42 GMT

#195

Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards.

I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment.

Now let's lynch mafia shall we?

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

January 03 2014 23:50 GMT

#196

On January 04 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards.

I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment.

Now let's lynch mafia shall we?

K look there are huge problems with this, I could actually totes lynch you with Yamato on this alone.

If you are actually blue you just gave up that power's usefulness and if you are scum, the real cop can't counterclaim you without outing himself to you.

Most will know this and therefore that it is essentially WIFOM, also I think YOU know better enough to know all that.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

January 03 2014 23:50 GMT

#197

Anyone counter claim? I think the worth of a parity cop in this setup is dubios at best so outing one of 3 cylons right away cylon is def worth a reveal.

Rayn, I think your choice to reveal based off your opinion of your own play was dumb / : theres probs a doc and yet you've cheated us of any info we might get from your role (provided theres an rb) but if theres no counterclaim theres nothing to be done. Even though its possible for their to be no parity cop at all : P

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

January 03 2014 23:50 GMT

#198

So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment?

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

January 03 2014 23:53 GMT

#199

On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment?

I'll say this now, I dont think you were under enough pressure as scum to gamble on a hail marry claim(and its likely youd be lynched in case of a counterclaim anyways) but I feel youve made a mistake as town ) :

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

January 03 2014 23:54 GMT

#200

On January 04 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you do want to policy lynch me for claiming without thinking about my alignment?

This wouldn't be a policy lynch, because that statement is so scummy- coupled with gumshoe asking the cop to counterclaim?!?!? I'm back to thinking you are scum together!

Ugh I don't trust my own reads