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On January 23 2014 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, I'M certainly scum. Of course | ||
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On January 23 2014 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote: gonzaw you have lots of pretty good reasons and my absence to point at. Lots of things I've done make me scum, and I've been doing shit all since like ever You're getting me lynched, and you're certainly going to keep calling me scum for good and strong reasons. Whatever you say, mate | ||
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...actually if you are a Manchester United fan that might actually be true so disregard that lolololo | ||
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It's entirely possible marv bussed sandro, specially if he figured out Hapa and or Prome would change their votes to sandro anyway. But it did happen in the heat of the moment, if marv was scum that decision would have been made in instants, and he didn't seem nervous. It's stuff to take into account you know? Also Foo, if you end up being town.....damn you Foo; why would you do that? just go on the internet and act like scum? | ||
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Although you can't say this wasn't FUCKING AWESOME, can you?  | ||
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I mean, you do remember Prome's "We policy lynch lurkers no matter what!" line at the beginning of the game, and he then not doing anything at all regarding sandro right? Oh god....oh god oh man oh god oh man :O O: ...lol. But other than that, I think we are on good tracks | ||
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Meh. Makes a nice conspiracy theory lol | ||
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Although, I think getting VE lynched comes before that. I just don't see VE as town here. He did absolutely nothing since his Prome "read". Just pressured Foo' a little bit, then did absolutely nothing. He randomly says "Holy/sandro/Foo are interesting guys", and then doesn't give a shit and flings his vote at any of those (not at sandro though coincidentally) without any reasoning whatsoever, and doesn't give a fuck about justifying himself even when I try to get it out of his tongue. Then he shows up at deadline, is there, but wastes his time posting some questions to Prome and doing shit all. Had his vote parked on Foolishness, did shit all with that. He even asked Prome about sandro being suspicious or something, yet he had vote on Foo'. Doesn't do any more shit until sandro flips, then comes here and posts ONLY to defend himself. Yeah...he dies tomorrow. I guess I can put some pretty colors and quotes later on. It'd be funny if the scum team is sandro - VE - Prome and they have been setting up this whole show lol I mean, Prome found VE scum initially with "shitty" reasons and the like, right? (when he ignored WoS, etc). Then VE found Prome suspicious initially right? They were the only 2 "going against each other" initially. Yet nothing came from that. VE then promptly forgets about Prome, yet somehow says he still has a scumread on him. Prome ignores VE as well. When deadline comes, VE ONLY talks to Prome about sandro. It's like he's setting stuff up, he even asks Prome: On January 23 2014 07:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh man and he comes in in the eleventh hour too. Unreal. Prome is sandroba scum for that meta thing? Is anyone scum to you? On January 23 2014 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: What ranks him higher than sandroba who is A) a lurker and B) trying to get you lynched? Is it just the fact that he's set to be lynched? And look! Prome responds! On January 23 2014 07:44 Promethelax wrote: I find fool likelier scum than sand. Sand pulls this shit as town while fool hasn't done so in my experience. I wouldn't be unhappy with a sand list, it isn't my preference but I wouldn't hate it. Prome's vote is on Foo. VE's vote is on Foo. sandro has a very weak vote on Prome and disappeared off the face of the earth. Foo and Prome had the same amount of votes there (although Foo was leading). Prome then promptly tried to explain himself to Hapa so Hapa would unvote him and Foo would gain the most amount of votes! And well Foo later gained 6 votes to Prome's 3 votes Doesn't seem too good to be true!? Whenever sandro flips, Prome and VE look good for life! If Prome flips, VE and sandro look good too (VE for the initial "suspicions" on Prome, sandro for the vote) If VE flips, Prome looks good (for that initial push) I FOUND OUT YOUR SECRETS SCUM!!!! lol this is incredibly fun | ||
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On January 23 2014 09:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Whatever just lynch me next, I'll help you guys decide who to lynch after me. okay | ||
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One thing that makes me feel better is this: On January 23 2014 06:43 Foolishness wrote: Initial response is no. If they are both town then who is mafia? Promethelax, HolyFlare, and like, VE I guess? That doesn't make sense as there is no other third to put in. WaveOfShadow's vote might be sketchy, but watch the people who hammer this (marvellosity and company). And yes I'm actually saying that now because it needs to be said in case you guys are that incapable of reading my posts. I tried setting up a trap for Foo here. Foo was VERY confident on lots of people being town, and VERY confident on Holy and Prome being scum. By cross referencing it with the player list, then from his POV, he basically only had 2 unknowns: marvellosity and sandroba. If he's town, he'd obviously know this and show it to me in his answers to my pressing question. If he's scum, I thought maybe he'd slip up and say something like "I dunno, yes, it's possible both are town" or some fluffy shit like that. The fact he didn't makes me feel a little bit better about him. Of course he can be scum fooling me bla bla bla, but he responded correctly in a quick and effective matter. Even if he was scum planning it maybe he'd figure out my trap and be more obvious about it, I dunno. Oh well. | ||
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On January 23 2014 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote: The conclusion should read read one more scum on Foolishness OR Prome. I firmly believe(d) VE to be town and I know my own alignment but I'm setting it up for you guys. Please go see your nearest doctor | ||
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For example, VE and Foo just can't be scum together. I believe Prome and kita can't be scum together either (BOTH kita and sandro being on him and kita doing nothing, specially not jumping on the sandro wagon (when he already has a vote on another scumbuddy) doesn't make sense). We could cross other possible scumteams out, and maybe get somewhere. | ||
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I'm kind of gearing towards H/T being town. Specially with Holy's last vote. It seemed genuine (that a host would tell him to vote). Even more, it would be a good opportunity to vote Prome, or Foo, or some other guy right? But he obviously wasted it on me. If he's scum, seems like a waste opportunity. | ||
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On January 23 2014 09:50 austinmcc wrote: (You were also really scummy on me, in part, because I was townie on foolish, and now you...it seems believe us both to be town? Or likely town. I'm more biased about that read, but lynching scum doesn't make all our other reads right  )Well, I may need to see a doctor too. On January 23 2014 09:50 WaveofShadow wrote: I could get in on this. Why can't VE/Foolishness be scum? Purely interaction-based? VE was semi-active in the thread at deadline, but didn't give a shit about Foo at that point. I'd think with their scumbuddy getting lynched on D1 with 4 votes at the time, he would. Instead, he asks some questions to Prome and promptly disappears. At that point Foo and Prome had 4 votes each....yeah seems unlikely he'd be so casual about it. Also, before that, VE brought up sandro, Holy and Foo, yet parked his vote on Foolishness. First he did so on Holy, then "sheeped" me when I asked people to vote Foolishness. However, later I vote Holy instead and yet he keeps his vote on Foo. This would be the perfect opportunity to either: sheep me again into Holy, or straight up unvoting Foo and maybe vote Prome who he apparently had a scumread on. Doesn't make sense to keep a totally unnecessary vote on his scumbuddy who is leading the lynch (Foo had like 3 votes at that point I believe or something, or just 2 I think). Also, VE had reasons to vote Prome (he was his "read"), and he even talked about Holy. Makes little sense for him to choose scumbuddy Foo out of those 3. Some of this may be WIFOM, but overall I think it just doesn't make sense for VE and Foo to be scum together | ||
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On January 23 2014 10:51 kitaman27 wrote: Doubt I'll be rereading tonight. Ask me tomorrow. Tomorrow? So, Sunderland won against Man United. Peñarol lost. Nacional won. We lynched scum on D1. I ate some fabulous pizza tonight. Life's good, man, life's good. | ||
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Then I look at Foo this game, and see some similarities in play and evolution of the play. I guess I won't completely rule Foo out. He was almost lynched yesterday anyways, let's see what pressure he gets now. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 23 2014 09:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright. Gonzaw is clean, likely austin as well because there isn't even any time in between those votes to discuss anything if austin were scum, and it really would be a horrible thing to do to your team if he were considering where the therad was at that time. Right around then, (page 42) Foolishness can be seen to be basically defending sandro. Again question becomes, is this scum blatantly defending a buddy here, or town pushing his own idea of what's good? Impossible to tell. Moving on, marv and hapa votes. There was enough time in between where gonzaw did his thing and the 3rd/4th votes popped on that either of my earlier scenarios could have taken place, especially if 2/3rds of the scumteam are around. Pure voting analysis with my 'speculation' in mind does not eliminate either of those two, however it does likely preclude them BOTH being scum because the only way that happens is if sandroba told them both to bus him immediately. Plausible, not likely (since it eliminates the lone 'indignant scum member' case). If that did in fact happen, we may very well be in trouble, but given the thread's (and my) townread on Hapa I don't think it's the case. Prome obviously cannot be eliminated either, and may in fact be most likely considering all that went down, and his considerable decline in posting quality right around the deadline. Conclusions: I believe one scum to be on the sandroba wagon---either marv/hapa OR Prome, and one more on Foolishness (or is Toad). I believe there can be only one way for that kind of coordination between the scum to happen, and that is if the WHOLE scumteam was on IRC at the same time paying very close attention to what is going on in the thread. I remember doing something like that in previous games. I think it was Themed Mafia (with marvy scumbuddy) we did something like that? The point is, either scum did that, or they did nothing (no communication at all). If you, as scum, are not on IRC, in 5 or so minutes you can't fully communicate via QT strategies and the like, you just can't (or even less, the time between the 1st 2 votes, and marv's, Hapa's and Prome's votes). So either all scum were on it almost the instant me and austin voted sandro, or none of them communicated at all. If none of them communicated at all, then I just have to say all of those are town. I don't think scum would take that chance (specially if BOTH Foo and Prome are town), without knowing what his buddies think etc. The only one I could see doing this is marv I guess. If scum did communicate instantly via IRC, then it could happen. They get instant feedback and strategy talk about what to do, most likely in some sort of panic, and then maybe Prome, marv or Hapa (as scum) sheep the sandro vote. Still, I think it may be too unlikely. Remember, it was still 4 votes to Foo and 2 to sandro at that point. If I was scum, I'd most likely say "Ehmm, let's just wait, Foo is still getting lynched" and not risk it. I'd even feign being afk or something for example. I also kind of changed my mind about Holy/Toad (again). I'm getting some clear stuff about the game in my mind, but I'd prefer to take it slowly from here on out. I won't be here on D2 likely so it's not like me getting all jiggly even matters. | ||
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