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On January 31 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote: Toad, I can't find anything in your filter that shows me the basis of your austin townread. It seems to be a default. What gives? Why am I default lynch after Prome almost and there's not a lot of other consideration? Thursday is trainday but I'm here now! Anyways:
I'm trying to look confident :3
Haven't seen anything from Austin that made me go "wat?" so far while seeing a bunch of stuff that I'd consider really townish. I mean just recently when I screwed up my math and still had 6 people alive in my head, including kita as still alive and he pointed that out. You think mafia reads that kind of stuff and actually thinks about it? You really think mafia would have seen that I suddenly jumped from 5 to 6 people alive? I don't think so. (On a sidenote: Feel free to take that as confirmation that I didn't know about Kita dying lol) At the same time you've been pushing weird crap, mostly on me, like "wtf Toad hasn't read Holy's filter!!!" when other people like Kita and VE got in, disagreed and if I remember correctly even called it slightly townish. Yet you for some reason kept giving me crap for nonsensical stuff like that all game long trying to get my lynched. I mean if it would have at least been the way WoS did it with conviction, despite being wrong, but you've been giving me crap all game long for no reason in comparison to people who either gave me crap to get me lynched or didn't give me crap to begin with. Add to that that Foolishness has you as mafia as well, add to that I saw you going "wtf foolishness has me as mafia" when he didn't even mention you at that time in point and found it really weird as well and you're the 2nd most likely mafia for me.
I did check WoS' filter a CRAPTON and as much as I'd like him to be mafia and as much as I'd like these minor things I found to be something they're all just some random crap that really could just be the way he explained it later on and even worse, it does make sense the way the explained it so there's no way I'm considering him over you.
I'm town, that leaves you as 4th in line (Toad -> Austin -> WoS -> Marv -> Prome)
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On January 31 2014 04:53 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote: Toad, I can't find anything in your filter that shows me the basis of your austin townread. It seems to be a default. What gives? Why am I default lynch after Prome almost and there's not a lot of other consideration? Thursday is trainday but I'm here now! Anyways: I'm trying to look confident :3 Haven't seen anything from Austin that made me go "wat?" so far while seeing a bunch of stuff that I'd consider really townish. I mean just recently when I screwed up my math and still had 6 people alive in my head, including kita as still alive and he pointed that out. You think mafia reads that kind of stuff and actually thinks about it? You really think mafia would have seen that I suddenly jumped from 5 to 6 people alive? I don't think so. (On a sidenote: Feel free to take that as confirmation that I didn't know about Kita dying lol) At the same time you've been pushing weird crap, mostly on me, like "wtf Toad hasn't read Holy's filter!!!" when other people like Kita and VE got in, disagreed and if I remember correctly even called it slightly townish. Yet you for some reason kept giving me crap for nonsensical stuff like that all game long trying to get my "lynched". I mean if it would have at least been the way WoS did it with conviction, despite being wrong, but you've been giving me crap all game long for no reason in comparison to people who either gave me crap to get me lynched or didn't give me crap to begin with. Add to that that Foolishness has you as mafia as well, add to that I saw you going "wtf foolishness has me as mafia" when he didn't even mention you at that time in point and found it really weird as well and you're the 2nd most likely mafia for me. I did check WoS' filter a CRAPTON and as much as I'd like him to be mafia and as much as I'd like these minor things I found to be something they're all just some random crap that really could just be the way he explained it later on and even worse, it does make sense the way the explained it so there's no way I'm considering him over you. I'm town, that leaves you as 4th in line (Toad -> Austin -> WoS -> Marv -> Prome)
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On January 31 2014 05:06 austinmcc wrote: Toad could you go over some of the minor things you found in WoS's filter?
Also, do you fully agree with the bullet points Foolishness wrote on marv? You think 100% foolishness knows marv's innermost scum thoughts and has accurately put them in the thread? I'll have to go back at WoS filter and find those posts if you want me to link them. Mostly the stuff that I mentioned already, phrasing I considered weird, the fact that people gave him confirmed townstatus for doing a lot of posts while gonzaw said that's not the case but it certainly was mentioned in the thread like that, mostly those 2 big posts about VE that I still don't understand how he could have gotten to the conclusion for VE to be town when everything he mentioned was a "this could be both from VE, mafia or town" and ended up on the town conclusion every time for no apparant reason.
About the bullet points from Foo. Not 100% but I see what he's getting at. I know marv a bit, we've been talking in skype a bunch in the past, we've been in games together and we've pm'ed each other a bunch. Long story short I would not put #2 the way he put it but it's onto something. Marv's posting style is a lot more direct when he's town but he doesn't mind laying back if other people do the right stuff imo. The point being is that just like me Marv is someone who feels sorry for people he has to push whenever he rolls mafia and he knows that they're town and putting effort into it (assumption: Marv doesn't hate the guy in question). Sad thing is, we didn't see a lot of Marv pushing but from what I just said you usally get less direct posts from Marv whenever he's mafia whereas his townposts are just not forgiving towards the person in question.
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On January 31 2014 05:26 austinmcc wrote: Do you think, aside for general marv thoughts, that marv has pushed any specific mafia agendas in this game? well throwing shit at me without actually trying to get me lynched is what I'd call mafia agenda.
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On January 31 2014 05:38 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2014 05:29 Toadesstern wrote:On January 31 2014 05:26 austinmcc wrote: Do you think, aside for general marv thoughts, that marv has pushed any specific mafia agendas in this game? well throwing shit at me without actually trying to get me lynched is what I'd call mafia agenda. I REALLY HOPE I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THIS POST ALSO READS SUPER SUPER TOWNIE. Good thing I'm town I guess?
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On January 31 2014 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Quick somebody look back for me: Who said that Prome's game beginning was not like LX and why? I remember agreeing with it but I'm curious I think marv, just all-filter ctrl-f "LX"...
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On January 31 2014 06:04 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2014 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Quick somebody look back for me: Who said that Prome's game beginning was not like LX and why? I remember agreeing with it but I'm curious I think marv, just all-filter ctrl-f "LX"... or at the very least it does sound like something Marv would say, he knows every game and is the only one who talks a lot about that kind of stuff
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actually couldn't find it, so probably not marv
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On January 31 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah tjhat was defs it. Toad why couldn't you find that?
Marv what do you think my reasons are for not putting thiughts in thread when that's what I do all game every game? I actually had that exact post, thought it's it but couldn't find the innitial post to it with ctrl-f so I didn't care to look into it.
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yes bussing him is probably the right decision at this moment
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On January 31 2014 11:09 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2014 11:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 31 2014 10:57 marvellosity wrote: how do you see austin's posting on the holy/toad slot this game Wave? Notably absent in recent times, I believe. Austin, the man makes a point. Care to elaborate? ? As far as what I think about the toad slot? NUMBER ONE THOUGHT - HE'S TOWN SO I DON'T CARE NUMBER TWO THOUGHT - His response to me asking what he found scummy about marv is VERY townie to me. Why? The final scum NEEDS a mislynch. He NKs someone, he needs a mislynch between the remaining two. The final scum needs to be painting people as scummy, and CONVINCINGLY so. All he has to do is convince Guy A that Guy B is scum, at least more than Guy B can convince Guy A that final scum is scum. Toad, when asked what mafia agenda (i hated using agendas and I'm using agenda as plural here) marv has pushed, doesn't make anything up. He doesn't go FIND places where marv has encouraged votes on townies, taken mafia stances, whatever whatever. He doesn't make any attempt to bolster a case against marv. He just says marv has been pushing him and THAT is a scummy agenda. I find toad town. If he's mafia, he just has to keep me convinced you or marv is mafia. And he put ZERO effort into painting marv as mafia. That is, to me, the opposite of what mafia would have responded to that question with. If he were mafia, he had a chance to make his endgame SLIGHTLY easier, and he utterly failed to take it in a dismissive way. NUMBER THREE THOUGHT - HOLY CRAP HOW DOES HE NOT KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LEFT IN THE GAME WE ARE 1 DAY FROM ENDGAME AND HE'S JUST...BARELY FOLLOWING ALONG? HOW CAN THIS BE? NUMBER FOUR THOUGHT - As mentioned before, the times I've seen scum toad, he's gotten himself caught EARLY, because he does silly things or he's too outspoken. The scumToad that I know LOVES to cause chaos, be very visible, essentially sac himself to fuck with the thread. In Chrono Trigger he was very visible early. In Pokemon PTP he was apparently visible early, I replaced into the game after he'd already died, but he was a D1 or D2 death iirc. Toad here is NOT causing chaos. He's doing...very little. And he's not the last guy left. Up until recently, toad was more suspicious than prome. If THEY are a mafia team together, I would except mafia Toad to be unable to resist the desire to just fuck with the thread, cause chaos, and try to set prome up. It's not like everyone isn't slightly suspicious of everyone in this game, it would have taken very little work to just push everyone and everything. But instead, he's just passive and often a non-factor. That's not the scumtoad I know.
waitwaitwait. PTP Pokemon was special. I was mafia, I was looking super townie despite the fact that I claimed mafia in thread, a townie vigged another townie, some other townie who thought the vig-townie was mafia redirected his shot at random (!!!!!!) and it ended up shooting me in the face.
Team mafia had 2 bulletproof people and a medic, I requested to not be medic'ed because I was looking smug, and on top of that I end up eating that 1/24 or whatever it was to have it redirected at me and multiply that with the chance of it being a vig in the first place and you end up with the worst 1-ouf-of-a-1000 chance to get killed as GF n1 death in the history of mafia.
I still cringe everytime I think about it... thanks for reminding me.
But I like the rest.
I really find it hard to motivate myself right now, like WoS said. Honestly speaking, I think it'd be a bad idea to move onto the next target because it could give oppertunity to some bullshit and we need all 3 votes on the same guy right now and I don't want people to start talking about "well but I think lynching Marv before prome might be better". So I do end up rereading some, remind myself to not post about stuff that isn't prome-related in the thread and lose motivation because I might as well just do it later on... sorry I guess Going to be now, see you tomorrow. I'll see if I can get something done by then.
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I am. I think you're better of trying to convince WoS and trying to get Marv to abort his bus on you.
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sorry guys have to pick my little sis up and it's right now when prome's back... I'll be back in 30 to 45 minutes. Don't need me to overlook the talk, right? I'll answer anything once I''m back if there happens to be something.
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I really don't think I'm going to switch to someone else. Sorry I know that's going to be furstrating (no matter of alignment), I went through that in the failgame as well but yeah I really don't see me changing my vote today
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I kind of have the feeling that mafia is going to shoot me and have you two + marv in lylo considering WoS' comments about you recently. Can that be your birthday present from me? 48 hours of argueing with WoS about why you might or might not be town sounds fun to me. Good thing I don't have to go through that.
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On February 01 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:42 Toadesstern wrote: I kind of have the feeling that mafia is going to shoot me and have you two + marv in lylo considering WoS' comments about you recently. Can that be your birthday present from me? 48 hours of argueing with WoS about why you might or might not be town sounds fun to me. Good thing I don't have to go through that. Yeah fuck you, I'm not looking forward to it either, but I hope you realize your chances are just as good at being stuck there with me imo. Live updates from what's going through my head while reading this:
+ Show Spoiler [#1] +
+ Show Spoiler [#2] +
you know, except for the fact that I'm not actually a girl
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Looking forward to it \o/
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thread has been dead. Toad posts anime chicks, Thread alive. GG
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On February 01 2014 05:49 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 05:44 Promethelax wrote: Certain enough. You could be scum with marv but you have played a good game and my gut has you as town for some things I can't quite put into words. In terms of things that I can pin point the way you talked about VE looks really genuine and damn silly from a scum perspective. Do you want to vote marv today? don't even get anything like that started. One of us unvoting is enough for them to pull some bullshit if things go wrong.
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Happy Birthday austin!
With our thanks to all of town!
##unvote ##Vote: austinmcc ##Stylepoints: marv&toad
Original Message From Toadesstern: For the love of god, don't ever vote me this cycle. I don't care what you have to do but Prome votes anything that isn't him and WoS might last second voteswitch me out of rage so please don't give him the opportunity to. They can't lynch us as long we're not voting each other because they're under the assumption that they need 3 votes and one of those votes belongs to me.
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