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On January 25 2014 00:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 00:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 00:45 austinmcc wrote:
Not just bussing but SANDROBA bussing instead of them bussing sandroba. In that situation, I don't know why anyone would have Sandroba work to kill off 1/3 the mafia team so that he could get to D2 and....continue to do nothing for the rest of the game?
There are aspects off that team that you can MAKE work, but I don't think Sandroba works in that setup, based on his push of prome, the strategy that would have to be behind it, and his late return with the LoL game stuff. It works if you consider an apologetic sandroba who pissed off his scumteam by lurking or who considered a bus like this woudl be a good idea. Again I believe if Prome is scum then sandroba's case on him was PURPOSEFULLY weak. This might hold water if Prome wasn't one of sandroba's original targets. That's a very long play that I find really quite unlikely.
Yes to the question about Foolish.
And I suppose you're right about prome/sandro but can you really call what sandro did 'targeting?' It was an early game read. Hell if anything bussing is EASIER at that stage in the game; he very easily could have just stuck with prome to try and stay consistent (which is also something scum often strive for).
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Austin, I'd love to talk with you, but maybe we can pick something slightly more...fruitful?
I mean it can still be oddball in such a way as you get what you want but maybe it should be thread-relevant?
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On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid.
Is it scummy?
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Glah I still gotta do Toad too.
I'm getting a little burnt out tbh, and I get the feeling nothing I've done has even budged anyone's opinion of me or of their current reads.
Can we have a discussion about something that doesn't require me filter diving everyone in the game? Because it seems I'm going to do that anyway eventually and it's probably going to be useless considering how it's gone so far.
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From my perspective, mafia are not in a vile spot at all, especially if VE is town. If he is scum they're not doing great (assuminghe gets lynched today) but you can't tell me it's not going to be hell to find the last one.
(Because it's not me)
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I've already explained how there are way more elegant (and likelier to work) ways where I could convince you not to focus on me/vote me if I were scum, but I don't simply want that, I want to try and steer town in a direction where we're not likely to throw our 'lead.'
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I don't think I've been in many games where that has happened at all. Maybe my second newbie, and we won.
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Oh here's an example: LX
We lynched Prome and town lost.
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On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely.
Replace the letters with names please because I'm actually having a hard time following your post.
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On January 25 2014 01:16 gonzaw wrote:@kita: Who is scum? Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 06:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It seems to be that the individuals who were absent are the ones most likely to be mafia (VE, WoS, Holy), which seems to be where the town is leaning as well. I'm going to reread all three when I have the time. You posted this like 20 hours ago. I suggest you stop fooling around and get to it.
Enough with the thread bully routine gonzaw. It's getting old.
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On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely.
Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook?
lol what a joke.
I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue.
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On January 25 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
Aww Wave <3
you never bitch when I'm thread bully. <3
Yeah...you're right.
I guess I've been sensitized to your bully routine or something.
Or I expect you to throw me back in line?
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On January 25 2014 01:23 gonzaw wrote:Sorry, but I think I have to do something if not everybody's going to go crazy. Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Replace the letters with names please because I'm actually having a hard time following your post. That's the point. Abstract away from the specific people you are talking about (which you clearly have bias against), and it doesn't make sense. X is Foolishness Y is Promethelax Z is sandroba
I get that, but I actually couldn't follow it without the names.
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When did they not have any townie vote on them at all and for how long?
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On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence?
Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town.
Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now.
Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.
KISS.
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On January 25 2014 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.KISS. Let's assume I'm in your shoes. Let's assume your shoes are townie shoes. I don't think I put it that way.
I don't give a shit because it's the truth.
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On January 25 2014 01:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum. KISS. This is getting ridiculous. Are you really KISSING given your current theory? Can we move on to something that isn't this? This isn't helping me getting a read on you really.
Then, pray tell, what will?
I'm quickly losing steam for today.
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On January 25 2014 01:31 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town.
Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Yes it is. But with good reason. Show nested quote +
Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.
That's misdirection. The current discussion has nothing to do with you defending VE or whatever, it's you pushing that ridiculous scumteam. Anyways, you still think those 3 are scum? Did my "reality check" make you try to rethink it or anything? I prefer AC/DC to be honest.
I have to interlace the scumteam theory with my innocence because you people clearly still do not believe it.
As for your post, I'm working on it.
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On January 25 2014 01:32 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.KISS. Let's assume I'm in your shoes. Let's assume your shoes are townie shoes. I don't think I put it that way. I don't give a shit because it's the truth. what's the truth. VE being mafia and you being wrong? Why didn't you say so from the beginning instead of doing those 2 wall of texts telling everyone how town he is for things that are in your opinion most likely not alignment indicative.
No Toad, don't twist my words.
I believe we are both town, but i am trying to show from an outside perspective how much more likely it is that if the first isn't true (which everyone assumes) then VE is the only scum of the two of us.
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On January 25 2014 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
Wave: Toad stuff maybe.
The problem with this whole conversation is this:
a)townie paranoia and weird connection theory
b)mafia inventing some theory and sticking to it
???
Or maybe - are you voting Foolishness? Or what's going to happen there?
I'd probably vote Foolishness over Prome at this point because I find Foolishness scummier, and haven't done Toad yet.
Should I be reading Holy as well? Because that will take a little longer.
Actually I will. It may be a little bit, especially if I continue my thread presence.
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