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I'll just stay cozy like I am, until we see some action happening.
Mainly austin coming back with hopefully a wall of text pinning the whole scumteam, or Foolishness actually making another post (of anything. He can post a cat gif and I'll be happy), or Holy actually trying to make a contribution and not just angrily defend himself. Surely something will happen that will make this D1 lynch apparent, hopefully. Waiting for sandro too. He has to vote or get modkilled, so he has to do something.
Also to see who VE will vote out of Holy and Foo. IM WATCHING YOU VE!!!
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On January 23 2014 02:57 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 02:54 gonzaw wrote:
@kita: You have the strange habit of "sheeping" reads and votes, without actually addressing the reasons you are sheeping them?
marv agrees with my post, I mentioned a reason for Holy being scum. You sheep marv...but you don't care about that post I made, which is basically what made marv vote Holy just now? Was there something about my earlier Holyfire post that you were not satisfied with? I don't find that I am sheeping marv. I have commented more about Holy than he had.
Not really...but you didn't vote him then did you?
Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 02:54 gonzaw wrote:
Something similar happened with your vote on Foolishness. marv voted Foo because he made a horrible unexplained vote and entrance. Then you sheep marv as well, but ignore that fact, and spout some other stuff about activity
What gives? I'm more than willing to move my vote around throughout the day. I find that it generates more discussion this way. The final vote is the only one that counts so why not?
I just find it weird that the action of you voting is like this automatic sheeping action when marv votes someone.
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On January 23 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
I don't know if Holy's absence makes me feel better or worse about my vote. Like he said he was phone posting and he'd give reads in the morning.
Is the plan really to just afk and hope people don't notice?
Seems to be Foo's and sandro's plan as well.
I don't really care about the afk stuff about Holy. But kita or Prome or someone did say something interesting, is that with the time he HAD, he did nothing. He just angrily accused me and Hapa from being evil manipulators and shit and heavily defending himself and trying to rationalize every thing he has done, but that's it
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On January 23 2014 03:03 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 03:02 gonzaw wrote:
I just find it weird that the action of you voting is like this automatic sheeping action when marv votes someone.
Does 2/4 times make a trend?
Ehmm...yeah
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On January 23 2014 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: HolyFlare
Come make me move it bro.
So, sheeping town sentiment here, or did my previous post instantly illuminate your mind to convince you Holy is a better lynch than the guy you said was a better lynch?
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You know, I'm kind of serious with this Foolishness stuff. Does any one of you have anything to say about him?
Basically:
1)Voting WOS, wanting to lynch other guys, but never change his vote and goes AFK
2)Seeming contradiction, since he almost thought I was scummy scum because I "did" something similar
3)People seemed to find him town because they agreed with him. But right now, apparently town sentiment against WOS and Prome dropped, so what makes that post of him townie now?
4)Remember the time he made a horrible entrance to the game making a scummy vote, pointless post and unfounded reads?
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I don't just want your vote (and sword), I want your reasonings and shit.
Your play is oddly underwhelming right now.
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On January 23 2014 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
I don't get why people are picking up on me attacking hapa who "looked towny", he had contradictions in a thought process that I picked up on and questioned.
Either way, I apologise for my lack of playing this game. I fully expected to be able to contribute time but my circumstances changed on the day the game started and so each and every single one of my posts has been posted from my phone, I was just picking up on points that I thought were contradictary and the such, no "aggression" is intended it's just how I post (Hogwarts I got called out for being aggressive as scum so there is no way I would ever try and look like that in a game again as scum).
Either way, my initial read was on gonzaw being scummy because of his time allocation, that subsequently changed based on his responses and although I mention the repeated bastardisation and misconstruing of my posts that increasingly (as he kept doing it and still is) looks more and more like a tunneled towny and so I used my time to defend myself from him so as to divulge my thought processes and vindicate myself to the person that I think is towny (from the people that I have focused on). I thought hapa was looking scummy because of his contradictions but his response to me made me back off of that.
I can't delve into quotes and things like I normally would but please please look at when gonzaw posted that "case" (that I said was heavily misconstrued) on me. The responses that meekly followed that said "yeh, that's true" and "hmmm yeh I can see that" should be heavily scrutinised as they were, like was just said, not backed up by votes.
Like I said at the start, you shouldn't let people who get better later "sandroba AND foolishness (although he has posted now)" sit back, they should be entirely pressured. Sandroba even went so far as to get a good ++ (I think?) from foolishness??? despite his less than 1 page filter with nothing contributary in.
Either way, I've asked to be subbed out so have fun.
Lots of my posts came from my phone as well. You can actually see me here active contributing and shit with those.
I don't see you making excuses for not contributing though, just for not being active. You clearly read the thread since you picked all those posts from Hapa and me. What excuse is there to not mention at least a single line about another player who just did something suspicious or something?
Remember this?
On January 21 2014 23:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 23:10 gonzaw wrote:
Sandro is always like that. What,foo did is typical scum foo That's not my point. If what Foolishness has posted is in fact indicative of a scum Foolishness and he is your most likely to be lynched target then why are you not reading into the only tangible bit of the thread with content to get other reads and find other scum?
It applies to you as well.
Like I said at the start, you shouldn't let people who get better later "sandroba AND foolishness (although he has posted now)" sit back, they should be entirely pressured. Sandroba even went so far as to get a good ++ (I think?) from foolishness??? despite his less than 1 page filter with nothing contributary in.
Yes you kept repeating this a lot. But why hasn't your view on those two changed at all from that? You pressure those players early D1, you want us to pressure them right now? We lynch right now, not pressure.
It seems to me you have this specific narrow "mindset" (think lurkers sandro and foo should be pressured, Hapa contradicted himself, gonzaw weird for talking about Foo, gotta defend myself from them), which you just keep using and keep using over and over. Basically, it's the same mindset and stuff you've been talking about since your 1st post. Your mindset didn't evolve into anything at all. That's one of the things that worries me the most. Townie's mindset evolve, specially on D1 where you start with absolutely nothing and gain lots and LOTS of info as the game progresses. It's very easy, as scum, to just put a single thing on your mind (when you have to post) and make your posts always revolve around those. It's easier to keep your story straight when it has less tangents.
Either way, I've asked to be subbed out so have fun.
Is this a scum claim?
These kind of posts, are those that you can't really just say "fuck you" or whatever, since they deal with out of game stuff that could be real or not (at least his reaction to it can be real or not).
But then, this post is still strange Holy for the reasons I mentioned. Apparently this will be your last post this cycle.
Maybe it's better to lynch you in the end (I mean...if you are not going to contribute at all and just quitted).
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Argh fuck it
##Unvote
##Vote: HolyFlare
Expect me to switch my vote 10000 more times before the end of the cycle though (most likely)
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On January 23 2014 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't help it. Circumstances are what they are.
And you don't want my reason, it's bad.
Well VE. Me flipflopping between Foo and Holy and switching votes over and over makes sense (if it doesn't, then just ask, but I think I posted enough about it).
You flipping and switching votes between Foo and Holy like you do doesn't. Either you don't give a shit and just change them for the sake of it, or you have some ulterior reason (that makes you torn between which one of those two to lynch) that you haven't posted for some reason.
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Which means you don't care which one of those two get lynched, ie option 1. But I don't see anything that can make you think as that as town. Like...you said you wanted to vote Foo, but Holy as also an option. Then you namedrop sandro into it as well. And that's just it? That gives you free reign to do anything you want now without justifying yourself?
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Anyways, read some previous games from Holy, and I can't say I got anything out of them. His play this game seems too different than the ones I read (Back to Basics, Titanic, etc), so I can't really compare them or do anything meta-related.
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##Unvote
##Vote: Foolishness
Holy already has votes on him. Want to put Foo on a playing field to see how others react to the possibility of Foo being a D1 lynch (if I remove the vote, VE will remove the vote, and nobody will give a shit about Foo).
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Hmm, I actually thought him getting replaced would actually force our hand into lynching him, not letting him go. Why do you guys think the opposite?
From my perspective, that post of his right now basically means he won't post anymore. He won't contribute anymore, nothing. We can't get any info whatsoever from him or his spot until after D1 ends. That would be different if he was just AFK, where we do get info (i.e he's lurking), or if he comes back and does anything else. By having so many suspicions on him, town sentiment against him, by straight up doing that he forces us to lynch him without a second thought, or completely ignore him from now on.
However, if we do the 2nd one, it'd introduce way too much chaos into town, specially if there is not much time before the day ends. Town would have to find new suspects and lynch candidates, etc. It opens a weak spot for scum to influence the lynch or for us to straight up fuck up. Doesn't that basically mean, that we have to lynch him?
Right now, I don't see town sheeping me into lynching Foo at all. What is town going to do? Hastily vote sandro for not showing up 30 minutes before D1 ends? Having votes split between kita, Prome, Foo and sandro and basically not have any direction whatsoever?
What are you guys planning to do?
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Huh, that last Holy post seems eerily genuine, and makes good points I guess. Hmm.
What I'm still not really convinced is this
However, you don't try and rationalise it as a townie that is under attack and just has no time to play
I think I can get that stuff, but after I made my "case". Before that I don't really get it. I.e your actions and stuff.
Yes, I read your previous games and instantly saw it's be pointless since your play is different here. Here you are indeed more "focused", and post less, etc, than in either your previous town or scum cases.
It does make sense you have little time to play in this game (so makes your previous games irrelevant). But the real question is: are you a scum with little time to play, or a townie with little time to play?
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EBWOP:
Yes, I read your previous games and instantly saw it's be pointless since your play is different here. Here you are indeed more "focused", and post less, etc, than in either your previous town or scum games.
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Holy, can you vote Foolishness before leaving? :3
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On January 23 2014 04:01 austinmcc wrote:WoS, you around? Gonzaw, I don't think we can be sure what nobody defending HolyFlare means, but I think in the bigger context of this game, we can't get too much from that. Nobody is defending Foolishness either (I might, yeah, think I will), nobody really popped up to defend WoS or Prome while they were getting more attention, and for the most part it's people dropping off "x is scummy" after they've posted more, not actively pushing "WoS or Prome super town." Just not a ton of defending this game in general, imo. Gonzaw, 2 question to start off since you're active right now. Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 03:10 gonzaw wrote:
You know, I'm kind of serious with this Foolishness stuff. Does any one of you have anything to say about him?
Basically:
1)Voting WOS, wanting to lynch other guys, but never change his vote and goes AFK
2)Seeming contradiction, since he almost thought I was scummy scum because I "did" something similar
3)People seemed to find him town because they agreed with him. But right now, apparently town sentiment against WOS and Prome dropped, so what makes that post of him townie now?
4)Remember the time he made a horrible entrance to the game making a scummy vote, pointless post and unfounded reads? You keep poking at Foolishness's past games. Do these things, dinky votes, horrible entrances, pointless posts, fit with scum Foolish? Also, honest question, if someone did these things vs did NOTHING, no votes, no real posts to be scummy or townie, etc, which player would you find scummier?
austin, it's not time for you to make pointless questions to me + Show Spoiler +really? Why would I explicitly make that meta case against him, and explicitely MENTION THE POSTS THEMSELVES, if I didn't think the "scummy vote, pointless post and unfounded reads" makes him scum Foo? Have you read my posts at all?
You've been waffling around ever since I remember austin. I'm not comfortable with that.
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Does someone feel like lynching austin?
Or at least put him into the lynch table. I mean, nobody wants to lynch Foo, everybody is baffled about lynching Prome or whatever, so why not?
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That post of his is really bad. Total waffle fluff about Holy and WOS, then a completely pointless question. Like really pointless:
Also, honest question, if someone did these things vs did NOTHING, no votes, no real posts to be scummy or townie, etc, which player would you find scummier?
Don't see how me answering this question at this point has any bearing at all with what's going on, and more importantly with what that post he quoted. It's like a fluff question Hapa or WOS would make early D1, not a question you'd make very late D1 when you have so much other stuff to choose from (you can filter dive me to get info if you want), and there is basically no lynch set in stone.
It's some speculative question that doesn't do anything. You want me to answer "Oh, if Hapa did NOTHING, made no votes, no real posts to be scummy or townie, yes he'd be scummier!"? What will you do with that answer?
You keep poking at Foolishness's past games. Do these things, dinky votes, horrible entrances, pointless posts, fit with scum Foolish?
This proves you haven't been reading the thread at all then? This is literally answered in that huge post I made 20 hours ago.
I also don't remember him taking a stance on anybody. I think he FoSed Prome? He FoSed Holy at some point, or he agreed with Hapa's post or something.
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