You know, I was THIS close to try and get a last minute vote shennanies on Toad back on D2.
Just for the lulz to be honest. But nobody was around so I knew we couldn't do it (only me+kita's votes were up for that).

Damn...that would have been funny as fuck.

EDIT: Maybe not THAT close, but the thought ocurred in my mind. Specially when Wave asked me if there were going to be shenanies. I instantly thought "lol let's lynch Toad at the last minute"

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 01 2014 22:02 GMT

#3003

On February 02 2014 06:52 Toadesstern wrote:
Marv didn't play MTG

Yeah...again, don't make me remember it again >_>

But the sentiment is the same. Feeling betrayed, without hope ;_;

RIP Ned Stark

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 01 2014 22:28 GMT

#3006

The problem with the D1 analysis, is the fact that Foo nor Prome's alignments were known at all (until town was already fucked basically), nor they were easily analysed.

The whole thing revolved on trying to figure out possible scumteams, and super busses, and whatnot, because, well, lots of people found Foo and Prome "scummy", while others found them "townie", so it become a thread-fest of speculation.

"Oh, Foo and Prome must be scum together!"
"No! Foo and Toad are scum together!"
"No! They must be town together, in which case Toad and VE are scum!"
"NOOOOO. Prome is scum with marv pushing town Foo!"

Their alignments were a mystery until it was too late (N3...and well endgame).

I think maybe we could have lynched Foo or Prome on D2. It could have made more stuff clear, to get a better read of the game by D3 (not that it would guarantee town to play better though).

D2 was the "town fucked up" point basically. People that needed to post were AFK (Foo, VE, Prome), it was just the same guys posting over and over (me+marv+Wave). There were some bad pushes (like Foo's on Wave) that didn't give much info, and the VE lynch was basically a policy lynch so nobody really got any good info from it (e.g Prome and marv just voted him out of nowhere I believe, without a case or anything).

Meh

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 01 2014 22:45 GMT

#3008

I think my problem in this game is that I tried to keep tabs on almost every single thing that I missed a lot of details. For instance stuff to press people on (like what Toad said above, that he didn't read any of Foo's cases. Could have easily been caught by just asking him "What do you think of the cases on Foo?").

Actually, stuff on Toad was mostly missed or forgotten. I don't remember anybody's stance on Toad, other than austin vehemently calling him town because BRAINZ, and Wave getting angry at him (before D3 at least).

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 01 2014 23:30 GMT

#3010

Yeah...but people didn't post.

Dunno, maybe stuff would have gotten better by just letting things flow. I just get the feeling that if I stop posting nothing will happen at all (e.g remember the start of D3? Exactly like that)

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 02:00 GMT

#3012

Austin...read obs qt for my take on that "question"
...you won't like it most likely

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 03:36 GMT

#3014

ehmmmmm..

Okay, you can say that "scum sarcastic marv" is less playful/colorful than "town sarcastic marv".
But the point remains that THAT was a sarcastic response. So either it's "scum sarcastic marv" or "town sarcastic marv", and yes use meta whatever to try and determine which one.
But...just don't say it was a legitimate serious question or something >_>

I had you as scum in the obs qt for quite a while because of the stuff you said austin lol

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 03:44 GMT

#3017

Well...it was your Toad/Holy thing as well ("brainz").

Not that I blame you, we all had derp moments (except kita I guess; kita's awesome).

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 03:49 GMT

#3019

Okay austin, let's test you a little bit more.
Tell me if the next sentence is sarcasm, or not:

This sentence is sarcasm

If you can't answer correctly, I'm afraid we'll have to send you to the Mafia Rehabilitation Center Psych Ward.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 04:13 GMT

#3021

If the previous sentence was sarcasm, then this one isn't; if it was, then this is and is not; if you couldn't say, then it is.

..*rolleyes*

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 17:59 GMT

#3025

Too bad we didn't have you two on our town then!

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 18:05 GMT

#3027

Yeah. Foo "found" marv as scum on D1 as well.
See how that turned out for him

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 18:14 GMT

#3029

Yeah, the problem in LYLO was the whole "Prome is scum, who is his buddy?"
At LYLO, in obs qt, marv didn't make any sense as Prome's buddy to me. Maybe that's why I went with austin scum at that time.
marv didn't push anybody at LYLO, didn't bus Prome. If Prome flipped scum (which we assumed would happen at that time), marv would look horrible. He wouldn't be pushing anybody when that happened, he would have nothing to go on when N4/D5 falls. Austin already was pushing him as Prome's buddy, so austin had "leverage" when Prome flipped. Austin would just keep pushing marv with all his might. But what would scum marv do? Nothing, he'd go "oh fuck, I guess I have to find the remaining scum now". He would look bad as fuck, he'd have to change his whole plan to see who to pinpoint as scum, and he'd lose credit for that because he would have to come up with that out of nowhere (i.e no townie would really believe him).
If marv was scum with Prome his play on LYLO wouldn't make any sense at all.

I think that might have been a good opportunity to realize "Wait, something's wrong here". Well, for me it was just jumping into the Prome+austin scumteam. But from austin's POV, maybe you could have come up with something different, and maybe realize Prome was town (since...wel..you wouldn't believe in a Prome+austin scumteam right? lol)

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 18:30 GMT

#3031

Why did everybody think Toad was town actually?
lol it just kind of happened?

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 19:15 GMT

#3033

Actually HF's conversation with me was basically the scummiest thing he did on D1 (i.e spend all his time talking pointless stuff with me instead of finding scum).

But well, your town read on him was understandable. I don't remember why everybody else thought he was town lol.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 20:13 GMT

#3041

Miaw

Or like my cat: MEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Anyways, do we all agree to blame this town loss on Hapa?
The guy had the nerve to NOT find the entire scumteam by N1 :O

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 22:46 GMT

#3044

Hmm, I think Foo's "town case" on you may have had something to do with it.
I think I remember thinking "Oh, I'll just assume Foo is right" and started assuming kita+you were town and Prome was scum.
I don't think I even read his case correctly, but well it was a super case by Foo so why not just follow it blindly lol

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 02 2014 23:21 GMT

#3046

Anyways, I told you guys to lynch Holy on D1 after he said he was subbing out. But no, you wanted to give his replacement a chance.
Well, you gave him a chance and he danced around all of you (us).

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

February 03 2014 02:12 GMT

#3048

Damn you wabbit