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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 20:40 GMT
#1998
Here Foo, I'll be nice and remind you:

gonzaw:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=18#359
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#437
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=72#1437

austin:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=59#1164
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=59#1178

kitaman:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=78#1554

Toad:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=83#1657

Wave:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=67#1330
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=98#1955

Have fun Foo. I'm glad you didn't waste the 10 minutes it took me to gather these
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 20:44 GMT
#1999
Anyways, reading back my filter I remembered a good point I had against Holy I believe:

On January 23 2014 02:29 gonzaw wrote:
There's something weirdly interesting about the Holy issue. It seems contradictory in a sense.
First, okay, yes, he did scummy shit; but that's irrelevant to my point. What happened, is that basically everybody is suspicious of him or accusing him. Not a single soul is defending him.
I counted myself, marv, kita, Prome, Hapa and Foo basically saying "yeh he likely scum", and nobody else is defending him, just saying "I dunno" or "maybe I could vote for him".
It's weird, in the sense....that if he's scum somebody would defend him, right? But then comes the other interesting part: he has not a single vote on him.

I mean, think about it. I basically straight up called him scum. Hapa too. kita now does too. Foo said "Gonzaw's catch on Holyflare's contradiction is really damning and I'm almost ready to pull the trigger just on that". Prome agreed with Hapa and mentioned other stuff. Yet, not a single one of those (myself included) put a vote on him yet. Not only that, not a single one of the other people "not sure" or whatever put a vote on him either.
I can imagine 2 scenarios: There is scum in those guys I mention, and there is scum in the guys NOT mentioned (like sandro, austin, WOS). If the guys I mentioned are scum, and Holy town, then surely they have an easy target right? They can park their vote on Holy, and be totally fine since 80% of the thread is against Holy (unless they don't want to be the first ones to do it or some shit).
If the other guys I mentioned are scum (or rather, there is scum among them), then wouldn't this also be a good chance to park a vote on Holy? All the town "heavyweights" (who are pushing Holy) agree with a Holy lynch, so if you are austin scum, or WOS scum, or maybe sandro scum, or VE scum, etc, wouldn't you be VERY comfortable parking a vote on him? It's much more easier to pick Holy than to act "clueless town" and basically engage the thread in discussions and the like.

So, why is nothing like that happening?
I think this can make it more likely Holy is scum, based on how the thread is interacting with him. That would make sense, the townies find him scummy, and the scum are slightly bussing him (since Holy isn't even voted yet), or leaving the door open to bus him (if, for instance, VE or WOS are scum).

I'll see what you guys think. I think a Holy lynch might actually be a good D1 lynch....but then again I think a D1 Foo lynch seems good too, and I don't want to "save" a scum Foolishness from today's lynch (if he is indeed scum).


However, this was basically ignored after Holy came with this "I'm subbing out post".
Also, most people (austin primarily) just saw the "Nobody is defending Holy" part of the post, but didn't pay attention to the "Nobody is FoSing Holy" one.
So, considering this might be good info to determine Toad's alignment, what do you guys think about it, on top of all the info we already have?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 21:26 GMT
#2000
Helloooooooooooooo.
Anybody here?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 21:32 GMT
#2001
Oh oh, new Walking Dead comic is out!
Don't mind me then.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:02 GMT
#2003
Yay! So who will die tonight?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:13 GMT
#2005
On January 27 2014 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
Hey gonz. I'm guessing you buddy. I'm not feeling much better than earlier, dunno what anyone else's excuse is :p


Aww, I was having fun

Anyways, I guess lynch Foo tomorrow. Don't really know what else town could do, there's just too much scummy shit on him. He's also the one "pushing a scum agenda" most out of all of us.

Then I dunno. If I have time I'll reread Prome....although like you said....maybe it's a waste (how on earth could he be scum with the possible scum teams?).
Maybe read austin then....but dunno if I'll find anything, specially before any Foo' flip or stuff.

Also if I die...read my filter I guess?

If someone like austin or Prome or you dies tonight then I'll be fucking pissed and relieved at the same time.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:16 GMT
#2006
Also can someone please make a case on kita? There are already 2 dudes calling him super duper scum and lots calling him "maybe" (even our super townie VE voted him on D2) and there's not been a single case on him yet.
If kita is town, then don't let him get mislynched like this. If he's scum, how the fuck are you gonna lynch him without a case or anything convincing?

Actually kita, if you are town, I advice you to start getting your motor running and try to be active as shit and post lots of interesting stuff and be townie as fuck. Maybe you won't get mislynched tomorrow, maybe not the next cycle, but I almost assure you if we ever get to LYLO you'll be there, and it won't be pretty.
Imagine a Prome+Toad+kita LYLO. Did you? Was it as scary as it sounds? Then try to prevent funny shit from happening if it ever gets down to that.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:19 GMT
#2008
Anyways, nobody unvote Nessy tomorrow until he can make an actual case on someone, kita primarily, and acknowledging the WoS stuff as well.
But don't talk to him, if not he'll post huge walls of text about the sandro votes over and over. Nobody wants that. Let him do his "thing" where he spends 90% of the time making "flawless analysis".

gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:23 GMT
#2011
On January 27 2014 07:19 gonzaw wrote:
Anyways, nobody unvote Nessy tomorrow until he can make an actual case on someone, kita primarily, and acknowledging the WoS stuff as well.
But don't talk to him, if not he'll post huge walls of text about the sandro votes over and over. Nobody wants that. Let him do his "thing" where he spends 90% of the time making "flawless analysis".


Actually this might be too harsh perhaps.
<3 Nessy :3
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:28 GMT
#2013
austin, you think WoS had no contributions on D2? I mean, I think when we all said "he put lots of effort" we meant "he put lots of meaningful effort".
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:32 GMT
#2018
Also about that "effort".
In PTP Demon's run, you ended up with a 14 page filter in 12 days of game.
In this game, WoS has 13 pages of filter in 6 days of game so far
I'd say it's quite different....perhaps
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:37 GMT
#2022
On January 27 2014 07:29 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:28 gonzaw wrote:
austin, you think WoS had no contributions on D2? I mean, I think when we all said "he put lots of effort" we meant "he put lots of meaningful effort".
I think he had some good contributions.

I think he has a lot of filler-y contributions.

I think that everyone is happy to say "active/contribute-y" and nobody yet has really dug into what % of posts falls into which category. Heck, SOME of the posts swapping reads on WoS weren't "he had a lot of good contributions," but were instead specifically billed as "he's putting in too much effort to be mafia."


Well, certainly not me.

I tend to gain accurate town reads by the way I see someone behave in the thread with me around. Wave gave me good enough feelings about that.
By that I mean, when I'm in the thread, I can notice thread sentiment, the current discussions and hot topics of interest. Based on those, I see a Wave acting in a way (pressuring people, coming to conclusions, chatting with me or others, etc), that seems consistent with how a townie would approach it. Mostly because a town Wave has the SAME information as me. A town Wave would see the same thread sentiment, see the same topics of discussions, etc. Based on that, and the way he did stuff, it gives me good vibes man.
Basically the same reason I think marvy is townie town. If you read his filter, and see each individual post outside of context, you might say "But he isn't doing much!". The point is that context is important, and it's even MORE important while you are experiencing it (not really when you go back from the future and try to figure out what happened).

That's kind of why I think it's important to make shout outs to the people acting like that while you are having those feelings, so it goes on record those guys behaved like that in that townie way at that time, both for other players and for you to remember later.

I feel Wave acted like that the most on D2. I want to believe I'm not such a fucktard to let scum Wave fool me like that...
...I hope...
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:42 GMT
#2026
Yeah that's the price you get for playing too good for your own sake. I'll never forget that after Liar Game.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:45 GMT
#2032
On January 27 2014 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
Funny thing is, gonzaw, you've been kinda terrible as mafia ever since then, when you were amazing... lol


Well, I REALLY liked Liar Game (comic) and the mechanics of said game (the whole voting tiers stuff with the "townie circle" was just so much fun)
Also I was at my mafia youth, full of energy and motivation. Then I got mafia old
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:47 GMT
#2034
I'd also like to believe that as my mafia play got worse, my town play got better...
...but that has yet to be seen this game (please don't let the scumteam be marv+austin or some shit please please)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:55 GMT
#2037
Arggh I read Prome's filter and get confused. I can see the stuff Wave and VE posted about him, some stuff can be constructed as scummy. His lack of activity this weekend (based on IRL) doesn't help.

But then it confuses me because of the sandro shit, his jump on sandro's vote, and the fact that if Foo flips scum he just has to be town.

Dunno wtf to think of him. Just leave him be until LYLO I guess, then get all tin-foil hat wonky
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:57 GMT
#2038
Anyways, before the clock hits midnight, you guys have any thoughts about the shit I posted last page? Mostly about that stuff I said about Holy back on D1. Austin, do you still believe it doesn't really matter much?
Marv, you used it as a good argument to think Holy was scum, then backed out when he made that "I sub out" post. After reading what I posted again, do you still think it's valid or not?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 22:59 GMT
#2041
A problem I have with Holy is how much time he spent nitpicking stuff and needlessly arguing with and about 2 townies (me and Hapa). Ignoring his defenses or acusations or whatever of the "lurkers" (sandro and Foo), that's all he did on D1.
If he's town I guess he might have, but meh, seems too weird. At least pick the right target okay? Don't pick 2 obvious townies and keep wasting your precious time (before subbing out) on them.

Damn wanted to read austin's filter. Guess I won't be able to
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 26 2014 23:00 GMT
#2044
KAWABONGA!!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 31 2014 23:32 GMT
#2865
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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