[I] [S] Shadow Mini Mafia - Page 22

On February 01 2014 08:48 Toadesstern wrote:
things to remember though: Don't ever talk to WoS when you roll mafia unless you want to praise him.

He got mad at me, he got mad at foolishness and he got mad at Austin, all people who poked him

On February 01 2014 09:01 marvellosity wrote:
imo gonzaw was miles away from any line

and the whole game was played with a very good atmosphere in general

On February 01 2014 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'd rather people didn't discuss it as it might become clear who received a lot of coaching and who didn't really use it much at all in the follow up, and players will have the same alignment as their coach.

On February 01 2014 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
Just a forewarning for the podcast. I'm pretty sure I call all of you bad. Nothing personal I still love you.

I also say that marv made the town his bitch.

Much love. <3

On February 05 2014 02:37 Promethelax wrote:
It is posts like that which make it impossible to be mad at Toad.

On February 06 2014 02:11 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah im not getting banned again

On February 06 2014 11:05 Foolishness wrote:

If you read my posts you notice that it doesn't just boil down to doing behavior analysis, but it's combining the analysis with their current thread posting. My analysis posts always have a big section looking at their posts from the current game without regard to their past behavior, just analyzing if they made the post from a town or mafia point or view (what were they accomplishing when they wrote this post). That has nothing to do with looking at past behavior.

There is no technique or rule that will get you to know if someone is town or mafia 100% of the time. If there was such a thing then the game wouldn't be fun to play in the first place. It's not just one thing that makes someone mafia but a combination of different aspects of their play. Finding mafia means building a case against a person, not just looking out for one specific thing they do or don't do. Behavior analysis aids in the case building and allows you to either strengthen (or weaken) your case against someone. It is not an absolute way to find a mafia, and it never will be (nor have I ever claimed it is). Of course it's going to be wrong sometimes, and of course I'm going to be wrong when using it sometimes (either cause I misused the tool or it wasn't the proper tool to use in the first place). Just in the same way you're going to be wrong when analyzing someone purely on their current posts in the thread. People will always surprise you and this is no different. It's okay to be wrong as long as you know why you're wrong because that's what will really make you better.

Again, it is a tool to aid in finding mafia, not the absolute method for catching scum. That it why it is always combined with their current posting and thread agenda. One or the other is not sufficient in itself. Your disbelief in it is a big reason that's preventing your play from drastically improving. I'm not saying that to be mean or criticize you or anything like that, just letting you what I see from your town play over a variety of games. If you were to use this tool in aid of your analysis and posting style that you already have your success rate would improve.

And I mean, even if you want to disbelieve in it that's fine but it is clearly a process that does work (or at least have strong benefits). There is a reason that there are plenty of good players here that are known for being good that do this stuff, such as myself and Kitaman, and then also older veteran players like Ver, Qatol, MrBabyHands. Even players who aren't big on it still use it to reinforce their ideas. Marvellosity is not a big analysis player, but he'll still back up his claims and use the information to achieve his goal with his posting.

Mafia is a game where the only limitation is your own imagination. As you said, there aren't real "objective" ways to go about reading/posting. Instead it's about the patterns of reading/posting or building a case that are good and bad. For example the General Guide To Mafia never instructs you to do X or Y if you are town or mafia. Rather it's about following a pattern of reading/posting/making a case (prove to the town you are innocent, make all your posts meaningful, use your vote in a way that gathers information. Or organize your team in such a way, balance your survival with your agenda, make your night kills in such a way that helps you). And that's what makes the game so great.