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On January 29 2014 10:47 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 10:38 austinmcc wrote:
Anyway, WoS, lemme know if looking at that post as an answer to the question "Can someone tell me why WoS isn't town" makes more sense. I viewed it as a fun exercise to give the reasons you were mafia, in the same vein as my asking you what you would have smacked your forehead over if Gonzaw flipped mafia.
Apart from that, interested to hear from prome about all the later-in-the-day happenings. So....you're trying to play it off as a semi-joke post or an 'exercise' not rooted in reality? Because you seemed pretty serious about thinking I was scum to me. Read the question I'm responding to with THAT POST. If the whole rest of the day gives you trouble, that's a different issue. But if THAT POST is particularly egregious, that post is in response to a question that says, "I don't see it, someone tell me how WoS could be mafia." When responding to that, I'm going to post why you might be mafia.
Did you or did you not think I was scum for a portion of that day?
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On January 29 2014 10:55 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 10:47 austinmcc wrote:On January 29 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 10:38 austinmcc wrote:
Anyway, WoS, lemme know if looking at that post as an answer to the question "Can someone tell me why WoS isn't town" makes more sense. I viewed it as a fun exercise to give the reasons you were mafia, in the same vein as my asking you what you would have smacked your forehead over if Gonzaw flipped mafia.
Apart from that, interested to hear from prome about all the later-in-the-day happenings. So....you're trying to play it off as a semi-joke post or an 'exercise' not rooted in reality? Because you seemed pretty serious about thinking I was scum to me. Read the question I'm responding to with THAT POST. If the whole rest of the day gives you trouble, that's a different issue. But if THAT POST is particularly egregious, that post is in response to a question that says, "I don't see it, someone tell me how WoS could be mafia." When responding to that, I'm going to post why you might be mafia. Did you or did you not think I was scum for a portion of that day? Thought there was a pretty good chance? That day, I would have put you above prome, gonzaw, kita, toad, myself. Lower than VE. PROBABLY higher than marv, he hadn't gone full suspicious for me yet. You were with Foolishness as possible second mafia. But honestly I wasn't too concerned about your alignment that day. My main concern about you was how people were referring to your activity, not your own alignment.
As second place scum you should be concerned about me. Everybody else was concerned about the entire scumteam.
Do you understand why this looks so dodgy to me? You are making excuses and trying to pass your scumread off as 'not really a legit read because it doesn't matter but maybe I would have lynched you.'
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On January 29 2014 20:28 Promethelax wrote:
We lynch austin tomorrow. This is not even a debate. He had a scummy switch to sand d1 he has played under the radar. He was the only vote not on foolishness d3. Austin's behaviour has been scummy the only reason he wasn't scum is that he and fool were not scum together.
Hmm.
I seem to be very short of convinced.
I also don't see what made his switch to sandroba scummy when nobody considered it as such days ago.
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On January 29 2014 20:49 Promethelax wrote:
I fully assume the lynch will be between me and someone else. Don't care. I'm town and if I pick a scum target to be up against I'm pretty sure I can get him lynched over me.
I assume I'll also be the mislynch target for 2v1 Lylo but I don't mind. I've been there before and none of you are stutters so I should be able to convince the other townie of the scum.
I know this is dumb but I'm feeling confidant of a town win still.
I'm not.
And I'm willing to be at this point I probably have the most control over who gets lynched and who doesn't, a power I don't particularly relisj at this point.
Another thing to look into for later:
Who was trying particularly hard to dismiss bus ideas (without proof/reason ie Foolishness)
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On January 29 2014 20:55 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 20:48 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 20:28 Promethelax wrote:
We lynch austin tomorrow. This is not even a debate. He had a scummy switch to sand d1 he has played under the radar. He was the only vote not on foolishness d3. Austin's behaviour has been scummy the only reason he wasn't scum is that he and fool were not scum together. Hmm. I seem to be very short of convinced. I also don't see what made his switch to sandroba scummy when nobody considered it as such days ago. I did. His and marv's were both scummy. Sand is a detriment to his team. When he is up against two townies in me and foolishness you need to make sure you look good from his flip because it will come d1 or d2. So quick switching around deadline when I had clearly had foolish as more scummy and Hapa wasn't present was an easy way to do that. Scum expected not to get sand lynched d1 but to look good from having voted him but Hapa and I went over in the last two minutes and scum could not change their votes, they were stuck on sand. The middle votes were scummy. On top of that the scum shots have all been into the group of players who voted sand to reinforce the idea that everyone on that vote was town. Shooting outside of it would have been fine to eliminate players like Kita who had no suspicion on him and is a better analyst than Gonzaw. But they needed the idea of fool's to take hold.
I hope you realize how annoyed I am that all of a sudden people are all like 'scum bussed sandroba lololol' when I was saying it all game and shot down.
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On January 29 2014 21:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 21:07 Promethelax wrote:On January 29 2014 21:06 marvellosity wrote:
I don't want you to be scum, still. boo. You know I'm not. Don't pretend. Comments like this aren't helping.
You make comments like this all the time, for the record
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There's always a first time, austin.
If anything considering how terrified I know people were of rolling scum in this game because of how stacked the playerlist was, I would argue this game was the PERFECT game for unorthodox scumplays.
I'm also pretty sure I've said allllll of this before.
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If I actually get the break I'm supposed to later tonight and tomorrow I'm gonna do work.
WORK.
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On January 30 2014 02:12 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's always a first time, austin.
If anything considering how terrified I know people were of rolling scum in this game because of how stacked the playerlist was, I would argue this game was the PERFECT game for unorthodox scumplays.
I'm also pretty sure I've said allllll of this before. It's a great game for playing wonky scum. But, to me, he's not pushing the idea that scum just played weird/unorthodox. He's giving a specific reason for their targeting of NKs. And that reason is "there was scum on the sandroba lynch, and mafia is killing the townies on the sandroba lynch to make it look like it was all town." To which I say: (1) One guy on the lynch flipping town doesn't make the others look more town. They're town/scum based on their own play and filters, not the alignment of someone ELSE who voted the same target. (2) I think people who lynch scum get town cred for LYNCHING SCUM. The moment sandroba is lynched, look at thread, the people on his lynch were "untouchable", etc. It wasn't "well let's wait and see if 2-3 of these guys flip town, and only THEN can we trust the sandroba lynch was townie." It's NEVER like that. I think his comment doesn't say "i think scum is playing unorthodox," because a D1 bus would be somewhat unorthodox. I think that I'm having problems with the fact that he's ... saying scum played a certain way in order to manipulate town's opinion, when (a) town would already have the opinion they want without any further manipulation and (b) the manipulation wouldn't actually change the opinion he's talking about.
This is a fantastic post, actually.
Will look into later along w/everything else.
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You know, if VE caught Prome D1 with that business....
Its a real shame I know where the NK is going. Not that it makes a big difference either way, I should be able to push through what I want tomorrow but the question is what DO I want?
Marv, what do I want?
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austin stop trying to make up for not being trolly earlier.
Not only does this not help, but it looks shitty because everyone else pointed it out.
+ Show Spoiler +Unless you actually make me laugh with something.
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Jesus that last quote is spot fucking on, especially considering I (and maybe other people? VE? I forget) pointed out that Sandroba's case on Prome was so bad it was done so in that way on purpose.
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Kita you should have saved that for the resolution period.
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On January 30 2014 04:06 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kita you should have saved that for the resolution period. I'd rather spend the extra time looking if a Prom pair makes sense. It's pretty likely that Prom was in the top two lynch list to begin with, so it's not like I'm introducing a new mafia suspect and opening myself up to a night kill. If you had to pair someone with Prom, where are you at? I suppose I'd understand if you wanted to wait to answer so mafia doesn't pick people off based on their response, but if you get shot based on your answer, I'll have more time so I'm not entirely concerned.
Nah I'm not going to be shot despite the fact that I'm off the table for tomorrow; (Even if Austin for some reason won't drop it) scum keeps me around because I have a history of being shit at LYLO.
I've kidna forgotten about Toad so I dunno where I am on that. Thinking of it now I figure much of our downfall this game has been association so I don't think I want to start looking into waht pairs make sense and what don't.
We REALLY should be lynching on merits alone, and then once we have a flip we can start attempting to associate (but even then I'd lean towards solo analysis).
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Welp seems like this game is going to be up to me now.
Austin town, Prome scum, that's easy enough.
It's the final day that's going to prove difficult.
Marv or Toad?
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On January 30 2014 09:20 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp seems like this game is going to be up to me now.
Austin town, Prome scum, that's easy enough.
It's the final day that's going to prove difficult.
Marv or Toad? How do you feel about Foolishness's anti-case on Toad? Like...really read and explain and whatnot plox?
There is much to do.
All in good time, sweet austin.
I should totes lynch you for picking Trundle though.
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On January 30 2014 10:06 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 30 2014 09:20 austinmcc wrote:On January 30 2014 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp seems like this game is going to be up to me now.
Austin town, Prome scum, that's easy enough.
It's the final day that's going to prove difficult.
Marv or Toad? How do you feel about Foolishness's anti-case on Toad? Like...really read and explain and whatnot plox? There is much to do. All in good time, sweet austin. I should totes lynch you for picking Trundle though. I love me some trundle right now, except that you pillar CD so long that you can't actually stick on 85% of people. And yet, I've been losing games like crazy unless I ADC. But that is for another day. I'm interested in marv's kita response and your thoughts on Foolishness's Toad bit. I assume I know your thoughts on my thoughts on Toad.
I honestly can't remember.
And that's why first order of business is to re-read a bunch of the thread.
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On January 30 2014 10:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Also seems like mafia is trying to get WoS into lylo as the weekest link, was to be expected. Foolishness had him on 3rd most likely mafia, Austin as well and so do I. At the same time WoS had mighty paranoia about me and apparently austin as well. Seems like mafia wants some kind of WoS + either me or Austin lylo + whatever is left after prome, right?' Hoping that one of us gives in and votes ends up voting WoS over Marv?
Pretty much confirms that there's mafia in Marv/Prome/Austin at this point and austin is town, so really keep on lynching
Ehhhhh.
Not sure I agree with the way you came to your conclusion, but by Jove I certainly agree with the results!
##Vote: Promethelax
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Gonna have to wait till later
And even then no guarantees
Myast couole of days have been really rough
Didn't get to do anything I wanted to
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