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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 28 2014 22:47 GMT
#2441
You know, I feel like if we shenannied and flipped Prome maybe we would learn more.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 28 2014 22:49 GMT
#2442
On January 29 2014 07:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey fool before you die wanna do a quick analysis of the marv/prome discussion this morning?

Anything faked in there? (Did you talk about it already?)

Nothing pops out, but there's nothing to suggest it couldn't have been faked (by "faked" I'm assuming you mean both mafia). I don't think there's anything to read into there.

I did notice that Promethelax also assumed that I was putting Marvellosity as the last mafia. That's because I made them nervous. They sure are contributing a lot to the town conversation after I called one of them out. In contrast you posted this:
On January 28 2014 21:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah I guess it does kinda.
And marv I know you were implicitly indicated but I wanted to see if hed actually meant you or go for austin

Which makes sense as a town. You don't know who I'm implicating as the last. Austin assumed it wasn't him because he's town and didn't think about it.

Regardless, that whole thing I did shouldn't even matter. Promethelax is mafia for the reasons I stated and Marv is his partner.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 28 2014 22:50 GMT
#2443
On January 29 2014 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not voted (1): Kitaman27 (!!!!!!!!!!!)


Don't get too excited my scummy friends.

Back. And trying to catch up with the last few pages.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2014 22:50 GMT
#2444
On January 29 2014 07:46 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 07:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:39 austinmcc wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
There's been too much chaos. There's 2 mafias within Foo/Prome/Marv. We're staying on this lynch right now and keep on lynching Prome/Marv tomorrow. Simple as that
If you believe this, why foolishness over prome?

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 29 2014 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
KITAMAN'S COMBINATRICS CRAP

Toad is on board here with marv/prome/foolishness, pick 2
WoS or kita, are you as well?

Regardless, here's how that set of 3 people plays out! marv/foolishness OR prome/foolishness OR marv/prome

(1) marv + foolishness

marv attacks foolishness on D1, because of Foolishness's sandroba comments. That's a lot of mafia on mafia on mafia interaction. Foolishness attacks marv on D1 for not doing much, again, a lot of mafia on mafia on mafia interaction.

Does it make sense? It does if they go "jesus we're going to look weird if we're around at endgame, we need to sacrifice one or two of us to get one guy to endgame." They drop sandroba, giving marv credit, but keeping foolishness and marv at odds.

Overall though, i find this UNLIKELY, because it seems like a terrible plan to START THE GAME thinking you're going to lynch your buddies and set yourselves apart. Their D1s, both posting that the other looks scummy, and continuing to harp on that, make it look like they are NOT mafia together.

(2) prome + foolishness

Town had the bestest D1 EVER? And again, from D1, foolishness and prome are calling each other mafia and setting themselves apart? Then Foolishnes is going "prome is the best lynch" --> I was wrong, prome likely town --> Prome is the best lynch? What does this accomplish for that team?

Two scenarios. In one, they want PROME lynched and Foolishness alive. Foolishness gets a little town cred, maybe doesn't get lynched tomorrow. But here's the deal. He needs TWO mislynches. He's basically locked into not lynching Kita or Toad. So he goes for marv ezpz, after prome flips. Fine. Then Foolishness only has myself/WoS to go after. He's gone hard back to WoS is town, and is continuing to state that, push that, today when he just got back to thread. If he needs WoS as a mislynch, I don't think he reinforces the idea that he finds WoS townie. If he wants to go after me, he probably doesn't keep halfway buddying me. I think that this plan makes 0 sense. ESPECIALLY because the plan is "have Foolishness survive until endgame and secure a mislynch." Townies are going to be really creeped out by a living Foolishness at that point, ESPECIALLY after Foolishness worked so hard to get prome lynched. It just doesn't work.

So the other scenario. They want FOOLISHNESS lynched today. Prome lives. MAYBE some people give him credit for Foolishness attacking him, who knows. Prome now needs two mislynches. He can get me killed pretty easily, because of my defending foolishness and conduct today. His other mislynch is ... more open. HE can go after toad or kita easier than Foolishness can, saying Foolishness is dicking town around with one of those reads. He can go after WoS, saying WoS looks weird for Foolishness coming back to town on him and really not trying hard to get WoS lynched over VE. Prome has way way way more options to win the game than Foolishness does. It looks LESS WEIRD if prome is around at endgame, and he has more choices.

A mafia team of prome + foolishness HAS AN EASIER TIME OF WINNING if we lynch foolishness and not prome.

(3) prome + marv

In this case, we don't want to lynch Foolishness


If you think that the remaining mafia are within foolishness/promethelax/marv, then you should be lynching promethelax.

Because in one scenario, Foolishness is town. In one scenario, BOTH are mafia, but mafia has an EASIER TIME WINNING if we lynch Foolishness and not promethelax. The ONLY reason you should be voting Foolishness, IF you think mafia is in those three, is if you think the team is Foolishness + marv. I find that team very very unlikely, given how they'd played and interacted.



Do you disagree with my conclusion? Or you think that it's not worth lynching based on that conclusion, and you're just set on Foolishness whether it makes the most sense out of those three or no.

the latter. I want this cleared up for now.
If prome is town, I assume you think Foolishness is mafia 100%?

If prome is mafia...foolishness likely town but not certain?

I know that lynching A to clear up B sounds smelly, and isn't conclusory, but i THINK things are mostly cleared up with either lynch, and I think prome puts us in the best position.

If foo flips mafia - we win
If foo flips town - we win by lynching Prome/Marv
If prome flips mafia - we win
If prome flips town - I'm mighty scared of people going crazy conspiracy

that's it for me right now. The likelyhood of someone beeing mafia/town out of prome/foo is actually pretty equal for me right now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 28 2014 22:51 GMT
#2445
Toad switch to prome
Do eet
Kita hurry
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 28 2014 22:52 GMT
#2446
On January 29 2014 07:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Toad switch to prome
Do eet
Kita hurry


lol are you switching?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 22:52 GMT
#2447
On January 29 2014 07:43 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 07:31 marvellosity wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:31 Foolishness wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:28 marvellosity wrote:
The game where I never bussed and gave up day 3

It's called "behavior analysis" not "bus analysis" for a reason.

You didn't do any on me. This is why you're so full of bs.

Hopefully someone else can finish it up. But the summary of it is:

1) Posts have more content when you're town. By that I mean your posts always say or do something. When you're mafia you have more "fluffy" posts. You'll comment on something or give out an idea, but without directly saying or accomplishing anything.
2) Posts are more direct when you're town. Let's be honest, you're marvellosity, and you're known for lynching scum, bitches, and VE. When you're town you make it happen, you don't sit around and wait for someone else to take up the reins. As mafia you're less direct and you wait for someone else to start something before jumping in.

Who's been pushing the most today??

Cmon.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 28 2014 22:52 GMT
#2448
Resposting this. DONT FORGET IT LATER
On January 29 2014 07:27 Foolishness wrote:
This should give you everything you need to prove the case on Marv.

Town in LXIV (first game) here
Town in ## here
Town in LXII here
Mafia in Desert Mini here

The game where he's mafia should prove everything. Combine that with his usual town play and the difference should be clear.

On January 29 2014 07:43 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 07:31 marvellosity wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:31 Foolishness wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:28 marvellosity wrote:
The game where I never bussed and gave up day 3

It's called "behavior analysis" not "bus analysis" for a reason.

You didn't do any on me. This is why you're so full of bs.

Hopefully someone else can finish it up. But the summary of it is:

1) Posts have more content when you're town. By that I mean your posts always say or do something. When you're mafia you have more "fluffy" posts. You'll comment on something or give out an idea, but without directly saying or accomplishing anything.
2) Posts are more direct when you're town. Let's be honest, you're marvellosity, and you're known for lynching scum, bitches, and VE. When you're town you make it happen, you don't sit around and wait for someone else to take up the reins. As mafia you're less direct and you wait for someone else to start something before jumping in.

geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 28 2014 22:52 GMT
#2449
I'm SO TEMPTED
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 22:53 GMT
#2450
Noone is going to drink your wine Fool
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 28 2014 22:54 GMT
#2451
(3) townmarv doesn't ask questions with obvious and irrelevant answers like "you know that brainz thing is useless"

(4) Repeats the second half of (2) but bolded, marv has been VERY backseatish this game, and even has noted once or twice that he might need to take control of things, yet he never actually does. Even when arguing the prome v foolishness lynch today, he's happy to just comment and argue, but he never really tries to impose his will on this lynch.

(5) I really hope that I'm seeing things correctly today
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 28 2014 22:54 GMT
#2452
MeBBe I will
It TASTES SO SWEET
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 22:54 GMT
#2453
Wave why are you buying any of this nonsense?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 22:55 GMT
#2454
On January 29 2014 07:54 austinmcc wrote:
(3) townmarv doesn't ask questions with obvious and irrelevant answers like "you know that brainz thing is useless"

(4) Repeats the second half of (2) but bolded, marv has been VERY backseatish this game, and even has noted once or twice that he might need to take control of things, yet he never actually does. Even when arguing the prome v foolishness lynch today, he's happy to just comment and argue, but he never really tries to impose his will on this lynch.

(5) I really hope that I'm seeing things correctly today

Am I in a different day 3 to everyone else? Who else has been pushing shit today like I have?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 28 2014 22:55 GMT
#2455
On January 29 2014 07:54 marvellosity wrote:
Wave why are you buying any of this nonsense?

Cause he knows the reality of the situation, even if his mind is telling him not to believe it.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 28 2014 22:57 GMT
#2456
[image loading]
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 28 2014 22:57 GMT
#2457
Household message: Votes on 07:59 teamliquid time will count. votes on 08:00 won't.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2014 22:57 GMT
#2458
I'll punch you if you get yourself modkilled
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 28 2014 22:58 GMT
#2459
Power surge incoming.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 28 2014 22:58 GMT
#2460
On January 29 2014 07:57 Toadesstern wrote:
I'll punch you if you get yourself modkilled

Vote for mafia. You know it in your heart what's true.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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