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kitaman27
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On January 28 2014 10:13 Foolishness wrote: I was having difficulty finding history on Toad, if there is a game where he is mafia that is more recent I want it. ![[image loading]](http://i57.tinypic.com/23hk4ro.png) On a completely irrelevant note, really?  | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 29 2014 02:29 Promethelax wrote: Kita, talk to me about what Toad is saying right now. He says that I look bad for something silly. That fool looks good for his huge posts/reads on me/kita/toad in conclusion Toad votes Fool does this mean that Toad is scum or can Toad flip this flop so easily? If Toad can be town while saying these things are the things he is saying true? Should Fool be lynched over prome?If so why? I don't see it as a flip/flop. I have no doubt that Foolishness spent a huge amount of time on those posts. If you don't find yourself wanting to believe he is town to some degree, then something is wrong. Things don't need to need to be black and white, so if Toad finds something suspicious about you, but feels the overall case against Foolishness is stronger, then I'm not as concerned. Are you looking at toad and wondering: "whoa he sure looks confident about me being mafia based on that point he made. Why is he voting Foolishness?" | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 29 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote: This is going nowhere. Are you going to think about anything else austin, or is this somehow the be all and end all? I'm actually quite content to see him consider you in a mafia team. You have been under zero pressure all game, so if you're still around on day three, it's worth exploring. | ||
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kitaman27
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On January 29 2014 02:56 marvellosity wrote: In a not-very-game-related fashion, is anyone other than me suddenly really conscious of how they're writing Wave/WoS ever since Wave mentioned it? YES! | ||
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kitaman27
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My first concern is that Foolishness doesn't provide these posts until he is the clear number one lynch preference for the thread. Contributing while having the choice to do so to help town and contributing for survival are two different things in my opinion. I know he has spent a lot of time on these posts, but disappearing from the thread, while leaving us hanging on who he thinks the additional mafia player is a concern. I don't put much value into the analysis that I'm town. I'm under little consideration for today's lynch and while it seems insightful, it doesn't have an immediate impact on finding mafia. This is similar to his "Prom is town" analysis where he is making a point that nobody really strongly disagrees with. I would have felt much better if he wrote a brief paragraph about why I'm town and instead used his time to analyze the likely mafia pair with Prom. I'll likely comment about the Toad/Prom cases in another post. + Show Spoiler + On January 26 2014 07:58 Foolishness wrote: Toad seems like he's trying to figure things out, and even if I don't agree with his arguments he's doing things for the town and VE is not. On January 26 2014 08:56 Foolishness wrote: From what I've seen of the past 24 hours Toad's actions seem more congruent than Kitaman's. I will go make sure their posts are in line with this train of thought (keep in mind there are pages I didn't read and some I quickly skimmed through). I also liked what Toad said about VE, but that could just be because I was feeling the same way. And yes, so far I think Toad has the best intentions with his vote. On January 26 2014 07:58 Foolishness wrote: Toad seems like he's trying to figure things out, and even if I don't agree with his arguments he's doing things for the town and VE is not. I can't argue against VE here. I'm very confident about my read on WoS at this point, it will be reevaluated for the following day because he should be lynched asap. On January 26 2014 10:01 Foolishness wrote: Why? Because it shows a townie mindset as he is trying to make connections between possible suspects and figure out what's going on. He's eliminating possibilities to determine who is likely town based on sandroba connections. In the final of the four posts, Foolishness lists the order of events that he takes. During day two, Foolishness mentions several times how Wave and myself are the most likely pair and gives several reasons why he is feeling better about Toad. However, here is where Foolishness actually claims to start: On January 28 2014 10:13 Foolishness wrote: Since WoS was still hovering over my head I decided to start by analyzing Toad, thinking I could prove a connection between him and WoS while showing that Toad is exhibiting his mafia behavior. If you think Wave/Kita is the mafia pair, why are you looking at the Wave/Toad pair first? Isn't that backwards? In fact, why aren't you looking at Wave first and then attempt to draw comparisons if Wave is mafia? Instead, you assume that Wave is mafia and try to find comparisons to support this idea. From my perspective, your suspicions of Wave are based on the events of day one, night one, and early day two. With all of day two to take into account, why aren't you starting there? You state that you are 95% sure on Wave at one point, but how much of Wave's filter had you actually read? Had anything changed from end of day 2 Wave until beginning of day 3 Wave? Not really. I'd feel much better about the analysis if you had came to this conclusion on day 2, rather than come to the conclusion after the thread pretty much agreed that Wave wasn't the best lynch candidate anymore. On January 26 2014 10:08 Foolishness wrote: The people that voted for sandroba are town. WoS is mafia. Kitaman as his partner makes a lot of sense. Furthermore, you state that Wave + Kita makes a lot of sense. However, according to the time frame that you're providing, you state that you didn't take a look at my filter with this pair in mind until after you've made this statement. So essentially you're saying that it makes a lot of sense before actually looking to see if it makes a lot of sense? On January 28 2014 10:13 Foolishness wrote: With my original theory about the day 1 votes going out the window, it was beginning to look like the mafia bussed sandroba. On it's own that seems unlikely. However going back and forth in my head over whether or not it could happen was not productive and not leading me anywhere (it was leading me in the wrong direction). I decided to approach the game from a new angle where I just ignored everything that happened with the day 1 votes. I'm more interested in the angle of "Did sandroba bus Prom?", rather than the other way around. In my opinion, this is the single most relevant piece of information in regards to Prom's alignment, but I don't really see any mention of it. On January 28 2014 10:13 Foolishness wrote: So what's the plan for the town to win the game? Lynch Promethelax, and figure out who is his partner from the remaining unconfirmed (myself included). I'd really like to hear more about this now, even if you can't put in the full time necessary to research it. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 29 2014 04:22 austinmcc wrote: Octavious is mafia. Duh? ![[image loading]](http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120122010713/marveldatabase/images/2/2d/024-Otto_Octavius_(Earth-194111).jpg) | ||
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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Brb, 45 mins. | ||
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kitaman27
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On January 29 2014 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Not voted (1): Kitaman27 (!!!!!!!!!!!) Don't get too excited my scummy friends. Back. And trying to catch up with the last few pages. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 29 2014 07:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Toad switch to prome Do eet Kita hurry lol are you switching? | ||
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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On January 29 2014 07:59 Foolishness wrote: Don't do it just because I'm second in line on town lynch list in Database thread -_- BAHAHAHA GOT YOU! | ||
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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On January 29 2014 19:28 marvellosity wrote: Hey kita, thanks for coming and dropping your vote in at the end and not having to take any responsibility, that's real swell of you. Are you trying to infer something here? | ||
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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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The biggest reason that I was hesitant on my suspicion of Prom after pushing him on day one was the 3-3 vote by sandroba. I saw marv mention that sandroba wasn't a player that likes to bus and I kinda assumed it was true as I didn't spend the time to verify this was true. I spent time looking at how sandroba addresses scum buddies at the beginning of the game with the "@" symbol and didn't come to any conclusions, but I never looked at his early game voting record. I'm pretty upset with myself considering what I have found: On January 21 2012 13:56 sandroba wrote: Fucking hell I had no time to post properly sorry guys =( On January 17 2012 11:08 sandroba wrote: Also L I recognize that type of play from last game. Who the fuck you think is scum? Nice blabbering and walls of nothing. I'd be up for a L lynch aswel. On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote: Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today. sandroba and L are scum buddies this game. On October 21 2011 08:02 sandroba wrote: ##Vote: sinani206 Provides no case, but votes for his scum buddy sinani. On July 04 2011 01:22 sandroba wrote: Seriously though, we should lynch a townie today. ##Unvote ##Vote: Fishball On July 04 2011 16:34 sandroba wrote: My assumpstion was that people would change their vote due to the quick bandwagon on fishball. Unfortunatelly that's not how it turned out. I had to take a huge risk to have any possibility of winning this =P Scum buddies with Fishball in a 2 player game. Votes him on day one without much of a case and shows he is willing to take risks early. On March 03 2012 06:37 sandroba wrote: I'm not lurking, I just don't have the same amount of time that I used to have to play mafia and make big posts. On March 03 2012 03:47 sandroba wrote: Unvote ##Vote:TheToast Day one vote against his scum buddy. No case, limited time from sandroba. On June 30 2011 17:20 sandroba wrote: What the hell, why are you guys voting fishball? The optimal plan is to hang RoL first, let fishball get another check or get shot by the mafia. Then, if he's still alive we hang him day3. Hanging fishball first is just dumb imo. ##Vote: RebirthofLegend There is a dt check on RoL here, but votes are coming in on the dt instead, yet sandroba votes his buddy. On December 19 2011 16:33 sandroba wrote: So I tried to push annul half heatedly in a slightly scummy way to actually dissuade the people that thought I was scum from voting him, while not really convincing others that didn't find me scummy to vote him. I really had no option but to post very little and don't add much content to annul's case. Had I pushed it full strength I'm pretty sure he would have been lynched day 2 and my team didn't want that. Look at sandroba's explanation for his day two bus on his scum buddy annul. This sounds incredibly similar to this game. Not only is sandroba willing to bus early, he actually does it more often than not! | ||
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