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1) Prome read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=15#293 FoSes Prome and goes with it in "crazy VE" way http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=18#357 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=19#376 Clear attempts to back away from Prome. The overall gist of both posts is "Well, he could do this as town". That's backing out mentality. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=26#504 Inexplicably, he still has a scum read on Prome. He spent 12 posts posting irrelevant bullshit without mentioning Prome once, again considering he backed out of him. Makes no sense. 2) Not giving a single flying platypus fuck about the lynch This: On January 23 2014 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't know man, the catchup posts seemed disingenuous, but I'm afraid I'm biased. Based on the posts I'm more willing to admit that I could be wrong about Prome, and yes the alternatives are looking better. The thing about Prome is that there's no POP to his posts - when he's town, when he thinks he's found something suspicious something clicks and his confidence shoots up and you can see it in his posts. I didn't get that feeling when he was posting about you. But again, I'm not sure how much of it is my own bias speaking. Foolishness/Sandroba/HolyFlare are three targets who are, in my opinion, well equipped to prove their worth D1 if they're town. That none of them has been able to do this is troubling to me. On January 23 2014 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: HolyFlare Come make me move it bro. On January 23 2014 03:13 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Foolishness You've got my sword gonzaw. On January 23 2014 03:15 gonzaw wrote: I don't just want your vote (and sword), I want your reasonings and shit. Your play is oddly underwhelming right now. On January 23 2014 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I can't help it. Circumstances are what they are. And you don't want my reason, it's bad. The bolded is his only reasoning for voting any of Foo, sandro or Holy (other than just finding something "off" about Foo before http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=26#520 ). Then he doesn't give a shit about his vote, and switches his vote from Holy to Foo without stating why he's voting them at all. The bolded explanation is not reason enough to think someone is worth a lynch, and if VE says it is, he's claiming scum. Also check those last 2 posts. He straight up won't say why he's voting Foolishness. Need I remind you Foolishness was his vote the entire day? His lynch vote is random, and he explicitly refused to justify it. 3)Not doing shit VE did not do shit. VE did not give a shit about what was happening in the thread either. For example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=31#620 Holy makes the infamous "I'm subbing out" speech. Immediately after that, VE straight up does that voting shit from before. Holy was one of those 3 he mentioned. Holy was his current vote. The guy he's voting subs out and VE doesn't give a shit about it. Apparently it's such a lesser event it's beneath the mighty VE. 4)This This: Foolishness/Sandroba/HolyFlare are three targets who are, in my opinion, well equipped to prove their worth D1 if they're town. That none of them has been able to do this is troubling to me. On January 23 2014 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: HolyFlare Come make me move it bro. On January 23 2014 03:13 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Foolishness Let's see if you notice what's missing. 5) Near-deadline behaviour Too lazy to do this. Read Prome's case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=51#1002 | ||
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On January 23 2014 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, I'M certainly not scum. On January 23 2014 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote: gonzaw you have nothing but feels and my absence to point at. Nothing I've done makes me scum, and I've been doing what I can when I can. You're not getting me lynched, and you're certainly not going to keep calling me scum for no reason. On January 23 2014 09:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Whatever just lynch me next, I'll help you guys decide who to lynch after me. On January 23 2014 09:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Whichever one looks the worse of Prom/Foolish is where I'm at now, I'm going to reread the thread when I wake up tomorrow. On January 23 2014 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I was making dinner. I was interested, I just was frying fucking porkchops and that's labor intensive. Like, I don't know what else to say. I even asked you why you preferred Foolish over sandroba, you can't say I wasn't interested in the lynch. I just had other shit going on. Lack of reaction to a D1 scum lynch? Check Spends time defending himself without justifications? Check "Quits" in an explosion of apathy? Check Unsatisfying excuse for being inactive at deadline? Check On January 24 2014 03:27 VisceraEyes wrote: gonzaw dude...you're wasting SERIOUS time on me bro. Everyone is WELL AWARE how you feel and what you think. MOST everyone seems to agree with you. Give it a rest man. EVEN IF I'm scum, there's one more besides me. I just suggest you not look into associations. You're gonna be REAL sad bro. I'll be dead tonight, so I just can't help to think that I really need to push this point across. As for that other scum besides you, I'll wait until Toad starts posting to get any significant conclusion about that. If Toad doesn't post before deadline, and I end up dead tonight, would you guys be nice little sweethearts and tell Toad "Fuck you Toad" for me? Thanks. | ||
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On January 24 2014 03:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Does no one find it odd how Kita quit doing that Combinatronics thing really fast? Like, he also never mentions it again after that one post. If he's town and had some crazy idea about how to find scum, enough to make a huge-ass post about it, would he not like...try it out? At least a little? Well, the idea was retarded so it'd actually be worse if he kept with it Sorry kita but it's true, at least the way you implemented it (democratic vote or whatever shit). | ||
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In this game my primary 2 scum suspects for now are VE and Toad. But then I read your sig, VE, about TL Mafia LI, where you and Toad were scum. Huh, what a coincidence. NEVER FORGET | ||
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Until you do, I'll gladly joke at your expense  | ||
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But pff, what do I know about playing mafia, right? | ||
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Is there any reason we should consider a Foolishness/Sandroba/Promethelax scumteam? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=39#768 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=39#775 If you expect me to believe these 3 guys are scum together doing this kind of dumb shit on D1, then you need to have STRONG evidence, other than just assuming they are scum and rolling on with the story. I'm wondering why you are even considering this. It's the same like that "Prome+kita+sandro scumteam" joke marv did, except you are actually being serious On January 24 2014 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote: So imagine that inactive Prom and inactive sand ARE both scum. What does scumFoolish do? He busses one of them. Last Prome post early D1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=17#321 TL Time: January 21 2014 22:42 Foo "bussing" Prome: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=23#447 TL Time: January 22 2014 07:19 Apparently just 8-9 hours are enough for scum Foo to say "fuck this inactive scumteam and this inactive Prome let's bus the fuck out of him"? You'd know this if you...read the thread Stop responding and start reading. Thread. Read. | ||
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On January 24 2014 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, let me rephrase what I said earlier. If I were around, I would have switched to EITHER Prom OR sand. But Foolish was on Prom and felt like he was manipulating me so I was hesitating and then I got caught up and never made it back to the thread. But I would have joined in on the shenannies in some form is my point - anyone who has played with me should know that. I guess we just have to take your word on that? | ||
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On January 24 2014 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote: If I were around, I would have switched to EITHER Prom OR sand. Show me where this is explicit Even if this was true, don't see how it makes you town. But I would have joined in on the shenannies in some form is my point - anyone who has played with me should know that. Again, show me where this is explicit. You haven't posted a single REAL reason for Prome or Foo to be scum yet VE. The last thing I remember you posting about Prome is "Ehmm I'm not sure about that stream of posts he made, they seem disingenuous". The last thing I remember you posting about Foolishness is.....well, nothing, because you posted nothing: On January 22 2014 10:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Here's something that I still find off about Foolish's reentry post. This is where he explains his super townread of me right? But look at the bolded bit. He's criticizing me asking marv about my Prom post and the part where I share my observation about our interaction, but says that the TOWNIE bit is the last two sentences, the "fluffy" angry nonsense at the end. Like, I'm trying to wrap my head around this. He thinks I'm town, presumably he knows that I share at least Promethelax as a scumread, but he tries to lightly discredit me while calling me townie? And after the entire post, I STILL don't know if he actually READ my post on Promethelax. Something doesn't add up. I'm missing something, somewhere. On January 22 2014 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean, if he'd provided some context with it that would be one thing. "It looks forced, as if he didn't have anything to say but felt like he had to say something" or "It looks out of place, as if he remembered he hadn't mentioned X and just threw it in there because he was expected to" or something like that. But just saying those words is pretty silly, especially when you're talking about one of your strongest townreads, you know? Die please | ||
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I guess I have to read Foo's wall of text now.....at some time......maybe | ||
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Although meh fuck it I guess it doesn't hurt to consider those 4 "confirmed town", at least by the time D2 arrives. About WOS: Well, I am the "direct" responsible for WOS's vote on D1, so I dunno if I can get anything meaningful out of it. Had I said "Vote sandro" he could have parked his vote on sandro. Then your story would be different Foo. I guess it's just something I'll likely ignore for now regarding WOS. For example: Then before voting for me says that my answers were "good enough" and that they "fit for a lack of a better term", and that it's my "early play that doesn't make sense to me". If my answers are fitting and good enough why are you voting for me? Couldn't you say this exact same thing about Prome's vote on sandro? Doesn't really think he's scum, but under pressure sheeps gonzaw into voting him. Couldn't WOS do the same thing? Not really think Foolishness is scum, but under pressure (he was apparently in a rush to leave), sheep gonzaw into voting him. The situations are so similar, that I don't know if I can critique one of them (WOS) without critiquing the other one (Prome). (of course not 100% similar, one was 5 minutes before lynch, but in the sense that I mentioned above they are kind of similar) | ||
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70 hours too late, but still... | ||
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