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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:35 GMT
#1737
On January 26 2014 04:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm done trying to find scumteams. We can only do that when we can start looking at associations and sandroba didn't associate with like anyone meaningfully, so I'm waiting until ANOTHER scum flips to try and find the last one. I'm looking for one scum at a time at this point. I think it's either Foolish or you right now - not because I think you're on a team together, it's for strictly separate and mostly unrelated reasons.

You're serious? You actually think it's me at this point?
Like....the only thing I can think of right now is that you're going against the grain on purpose to look towny.
And that doesn't look good.

VE instead can you give me something novel on Foolishness? Do you have any particular reasons as to why he's scum? I want to be sure of this.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:38 GMT
#1740
On January 26 2014 04:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok a few thigns:
VE wtf was that vote on me? I don;t even understand your reasoning for it. Because I think you're town and no one else does? Is that it?

As far as marv;s argument, the problem is not only would you be comparing mafia to town mindset, you also have to remember that VE and I are two different people. My motivation has been ridiculously on this game not only because I'm not and want to win, but because of the game itself. Marv you remember me asking you pre-game if I should even play in this game? Part of my motivation this game is to show myself (and others) that I deserve to be in here. In any other game I highly doubt I would be spending such a great deal of the free time I barely have to post in massive bursts. VE may not be similarly motivated as town (or obviously as scum).

Now as for Foolishness, call me dumb but I'm starting to worry about how quickly it's being picked up. Especially by people like Toad. And even then if I'm right and Foolishness truly is mafia, is everybody going to be bamboozled by him again when he comes back with an hour to go and posts a flashy essay?

It was that and the fact that Hapa suspected you and died - but gonzaw pointed out that he posted his suspicion AFTER the scum had made their shot, so it comes back to the "he's the only one who's right about me" which is NOT a strong enough point to lynch imo.

It'd be pretty ballsy (if I'm right about you) as scum to be the only one.
Hapa's suspicion is a stronger point if anything and I'll grant you that, but surprisingly nobody brought it up. And his case on me was vastly different than anyone else's I believe---I think it actually wasn't terrible.

So, is Toad's voteswitch authentic or is he trying to jump off a losing train early and trying to gain some towncred on a bus?


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 08:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 24 2014 08:07 Promethelax wrote:
So hapa has
WoS
VE
Holy
Fool
as scummy. I was hoping he had a clear target before the resolution deadline that would have suggested that he was killed to push a single lynch.

In terms of history: marv or I are the most likely to kill Hapa as scum n1 I think.

I actually disagree. Quick check through his filter, ignoring his last post because it was before deadline, will show up WoS a lot more than anyone else, especially if you compare it to VE who would be the one to show up more in Gonzaw's filter.

So as I'm still going with the WoS and VE both look really bad, especially given that they both equally failed to do anything d1 deadline (clicky! here to see why that's an issue I'd lean on WoS even more now.

##vote WoS

you're welcome.
Also wtf is that kind of a question. I'm getting cold feet here as I'm seeing you and VE on the same guy I want lynched and you have the balls to call Foolishness 100% mafia and say it's either a bus from me or a townie being right?
Sure I think Foolishness is the best lynch but I wouldn't have the balls to call it that 100% certain oO

Also when I voted foolish it was 2-2-2 in votes. I might be called the reason you're "wagon" is losing steam, again you're welcome

Yeah I was watching you subtly try to take credit for that.
Horseshit, good sir. If there's any reason I'm not getting lynched today it's through my own damn merit.

This is another one of those cases Toad where I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't. If I'm not 100% confident people call me wishy washy, and now that I am you find it fishy. Fuck 'wishy-washy,' I'm never using it as a strict tell ever again.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:42 GMT
#1744
On January 26 2014 04:39 gonzaw wrote:
VE, this is simple for me:

If you are town, well then fuck I guess, what are you going to do?
But if you are scum, and we let you live....what will this tell us about valid scum strategies for future games? If you are scum and we let you live, you just successfully NOT played the game, and survived. You, and other scum in future games, will see this as a viable strategy.
Scum in next games will just go "I'm under pressure what do I do!!!? Oh wait I'll just give up, appeal to their emotions and they'll let me live, easy as pie". Do you want to see this happening in future games? Do you want to see scum intentionally NOT playing the game, just because it would seem to be a viable strategy for them to survive and push their scum agenda?
That's not how I envision mafia games.

So, I don't want to let you pass VE. It goes beyond this game.

Like I said, this is what made me make my switch to sandro last game. I also don't want to enforce the fact that scum can go AFK for 30 hours, come with a shitty case and coast through the game. I don't want mafia games to be like that, therefore actions like that should not go unpunished.
Same happens to you VE.

Actually, yes, the point that I want to make is that town should punish this kind of behaviour more and more in games. I've seen lots of games where stuff like this happens and the scum coasts through the game and wins (Risen in TLIII anyone?). But town gets second thoughts, or gets too scared to actually do something, and scum win (IMO) unfairly.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a matter of priorities. My first priority is NOT to stay alive. That's scum's first priority. My first priority is to find scum. And I've been trying, but I get shit on every time I try. EVERY TIME. Can you not see how this is frustrating to me?


The problem is that you aren't even attempting to find scum either. You randomly voted your highest townread because of false shitty WIFOM, then parked your vote on the dude with the highest votes. Tell me how that's "finding scum, my #1 priority"?

Not to delve into policy too much, but I believe this game to be an exception. People don't policy vote in most games, it's just that we have a lot of clear-thinking, rational people in this game who are ACTUALLY playing, which is an anomaly.

Anyway re: the question about Toad voting for Foolishness, it's more because I find it a little unlikely that if they are both scum you'd attempt to bus this early when the decider is still pretty unclear at this point, but I'm trying to get some thread input. I could totally be wrong about Foolishness, and when people start to agree with me (or at least a lynch I'm supporting) it makes me nervous so I want to poke everywhere I can in every way that I can to be as sure as I can.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:48 GMT
#1752
On January 26 2014 04:46 austinmcc wrote:
VE,

I read back over your filter. I read back over Hapa's.

Hapa Stuff
Hapa may have wanted to kill WoS today, but he was on your nuts D1. A ton of his D1 is back and forth with you and suspicions on you. HE DID CHANGE HIS MIND. Come N1, he didn't post on you as much, but he appears to be less certain on you, trollpost but also indicates that he doesn't think it's an awful idea to lynch you or find you scummy - + Show Spoiler +
On January 23 2014 09:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 09:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever just lynch me next, I'll help you guys decide who to lynch after me.


Who do we lynch after you?

. Hapa has good points on wave, but all of that is AFTER the deadline. So from what I can see, he's scummy on WoS and appears to have come back to scummy on you? He certainly doesn't spend ANY posts defending you during N1 when you were catching some flak for absence.

Your Filter
I was townie on you D1. But if I'm LOOKING for strange stuff, your reads/votes stuff come off a little janky.

You're suspicious of Prome. With reasons. With posts. Also somewhat suspicious of Foolishness, sometimes toying with suspicion on HF. You've got stuff like this:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know man, the catchup posts seemed disingenuous, but I'm afraid I'm biased. Based on the posts I'm more willing to admit that I could be wrong about Prome, and yes the alternatives are looking better.

The thing about Prome is that there's no POP to his posts - when he's town, when he thinks he's found something suspicious something clicks and his confidence shoots up and you can see it in his posts. I didn't get that feeling when he was posting about you. But again, I'm not sure how much of it is my own bias speaking.

Foolishness/Sandroba/HolyFlare are three targets who are, in my opinion, well equipped to prove their worth D1 if they're town. That none of them has been able to do this is troubling to me.

that indicates you might be worried about Sandroba as well, but you never fully vocalize that for a long time.

You're start bugging prome about sandroba shortly before the lynch:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 07:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh man and he comes in in the eleventh hour too. Unreal.

Prome is sandroba scum for that meta thing? Is anyone scum to you?
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
What ranks him higher than sandroba who is A) a lurker and B) trying to get you lynched? Is it just the fact that he's set to be lynched?
You think prome is scummy, or are pushing that, yes yes yes. But you've barely said a word about sandroba yourself, AT ALL. You say he can prove his worth, but you never even add the other half of that at any point in the day", he has/hasn't proven his worth.

Even BEFORE the voteswap at 10 minutes, there were posts on sandroba. Foolishness's comments on Sandroba got poked at. Sand caught a couple vote/unvotes iirc. And i KNOW you can be asking prome those questions from a townie standpoint, but it feels awkward for you to be bringing up sand without ever speaking YOUR mind on sand, despite, from your earlier post, you probably having a clear scumread on him for not proving himself. I dunno. I don't like those sand posts even though I know they can be read from both sides.

I know this post doesn't go anywhere, but I think if you want to vote VE for inactivity/giving up, that's a policy matter. If you want to say he's mafia for his posts, you can do that too. But some people are overconnecting the activity/quitting to scumminess, imo, and they need to find some real justification in his filter for votes.

Does that mean you won't be voting for VE, austin?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:52 GMT
#1753
On January 26 2014 04:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 04:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:35 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok a few thigns:
VE wtf was that vote on me? I don;t even understand your reasoning for it. Because I think you're town and no one else does? Is that it?

As far as marv;s argument, the problem is not only would you be comparing mafia to town mindset, you also have to remember that VE and I are two different people. My motivation has been ridiculously on this game not only because I'm not and want to win, but because of the game itself. Marv you remember me asking you pre-game if I should even play in this game? Part of my motivation this game is to show myself (and others) that I deserve to be in here. In any other game I highly doubt I would be spending such a great deal of the free time I barely have to post in massive bursts. VE may not be similarly motivated as town (or obviously as scum).

Now as for Foolishness, call me dumb but I'm starting to worry about how quickly it's being picked up. Especially by people like Toad. And even then if I'm right and Foolishness truly is mafia, is everybody going to be bamboozled by him again when he comes back with an hour to go and posts a flashy essay?

It was that and the fact that Hapa suspected you and died - but gonzaw pointed out that he posted his suspicion AFTER the scum had made their shot, so it comes back to the "he's the only one who's right about me" which is NOT a strong enough point to lynch imo.

It'd be pretty ballsy (if I'm right about you) as scum to be the only one.
Hapa's suspicion is a stronger point if anything and I'll grant you that, but surprisingly nobody brought it up. And his case on me was vastly different than anyone else's I believe---I think it actually wasn't terrible.

So, is Toad's voteswitch authentic or is he trying to jump off a losing train early and trying to gain some towncred on a bus?


On January 24 2014 08:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 24 2014 08:07 Promethelax wrote:
So hapa has
WoS
VE
Holy
Fool
as scummy. I was hoping he had a clear target before the resolution deadline that would have suggested that he was killed to push a single lynch.

In terms of history: marv or I are the most likely to kill Hapa as scum n1 I think.

I actually disagree. Quick check through his filter, ignoring his last post because it was before deadline, will show up WoS a lot more than anyone else, especially if you compare it to VE who would be the one to show up more in Gonzaw's filter.

So as I'm still going with the WoS and VE both look really bad, especially given that they both equally failed to do anything d1 deadline (clicky! here to see why that's an issue I'd lean on WoS even more now.

##vote WoS

you're welcome.
Also wtf is that kind of a question. I'm getting cold feet here as I'm seeing you and VE on the same guy I want lynched and you have the balls to call Foolishness 100% mafia and say it's either a bus from me or a townie being right?
Sure I think Foolishness is the best lynch but I wouldn't have the balls to call it that 100% certain oO

Also when I voted foolish it was 2-2-2 in votes. I might be called the reason you're "wagon" is losing steam, again you're welcome

Yeah I was watching you subtly try to take credit for that.
Horseshit, good sir. If there's any reason I'm not getting lynched today it's through my own damn merit.

This is another one of those cases Toad where I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't. If I'm not 100% confident people call me wishy washy, and now that I am you find it fishy. Fuck 'wishy-washy,' I'm never using it as a strict tell ever again.

okay here's the thing. I said I'm ignoring you for today because I got that people disagree with what I said about you and I'm rethinking the whole thing. You just implied that I was trying to get off a losing wagon which was obviously horseshit because it wasn't a losing wagon until I unvoted. Gonzaw specifically said something along the lines of "well looks like Foolish or VE day today" after I voted Foolishness if I recall correctly. I'm not taking credit for anything, I'm rubbing it under your nose because that comment of yours annoyed me.

So sorry for rubbing it under your nose but I can't stand it if you're flinging shit at me that's completly made up.
See, I'm taking my time to rethink you, I'm actually doing that because I know how badly tunneling can end up and especially you should know so as well. So could you please take a bit of that same medicine and just stop the flinging shit for no reason-part?

It's not no reason, you're attempting to take credit for something I don't believe deserves it. I wasn't getting lynched once I showed up last night and started talking, despite where the votes were/are. I do appreciate you untunneling however, though I'm not really sure you had a choice given your case was pretty torn up. I'm sorry my comment annoys you but it's the way I am attempting to think about the game right now, especially because I am worried about Foolishness's inevitable return pre-lynch, which i will likely not be here for.

Toad let's just talk.
If Foolishness comes back and posts a whole bunch, do you think he is still likely to be lynched?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:55 GMT
#1756
Ugh I can't tell if I like the fact that I don't know who's going to be lynched while I'm gone or I don't.
Gonzaw on a scale from 1-10, how likely are shenannies today? And if so, is today's '3rd place' a likely target (like yesterday)?

I get that it might not be possible 9or even a good idea) to answer this but I dunno, give me something mabes.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 19:56 GMT
#1757
On January 26 2014 04:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:47 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:35 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 26 2014 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok a few thigns:
VE wtf was that vote on me? I don;t even understand your reasoning for it. Because I think you're town and no one else does? Is that it?

As far as marv;s argument, the problem is not only would you be comparing mafia to town mindset, you also have to remember that VE and I are two different people. My motivation has been ridiculously on this game not only because I'm not and want to win, but because of the game itself. Marv you remember me asking you pre-game if I should even play in this game? Part of my motivation this game is to show myself (and others) that I deserve to be in here. In any other game I highly doubt I would be spending such a great deal of the free time I barely have to post in massive bursts. VE may not be similarly motivated as town (or obviously as scum).

Now as for Foolishness, call me dumb but I'm starting to worry about how quickly it's being picked up. Especially by people like Toad. And even then if I'm right and Foolishness truly is mafia, is everybody going to be bamboozled by him again when he comes back with an hour to go and posts a flashy essay?

It was that and the fact that Hapa suspected you and died - but gonzaw pointed out that he posted his suspicion AFTER the scum had made their shot, so it comes back to the "he's the only one who's right about me" which is NOT a strong enough point to lynch imo.

It'd be pretty ballsy (if I'm right about you) as scum to be the only one.
Hapa's suspicion is a stronger point if anything and I'll grant you that, but surprisingly nobody brought it up. And his case on me was vastly different than anyone else's I believe---I think it actually wasn't terrible.

So, is Toad's voteswitch authentic or is he trying to jump off a losing train early and trying to gain some towncred on a bus?


On January 24 2014 08:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 24 2014 08:07 Promethelax wrote:
So hapa has
WoS
VE
Holy
Fool
as scummy. I was hoping he had a clear target before the resolution deadline that would have suggested that he was killed to push a single lynch.

In terms of history: marv or I are the most likely to kill Hapa as scum n1 I think.

I actually disagree. Quick check through his filter, ignoring his last post because it was before deadline, will show up WoS a lot more than anyone else, especially if you compare it to VE who would be the one to show up more in Gonzaw's filter.

So as I'm still going with the WoS and VE both look really bad, especially given that they both equally failed to do anything d1 deadline (clicky! here to see why that's an issue I'd lean on WoS even more now.

##vote WoS

you're welcome.
Also wtf is that kind of a question. I'm getting cold feet here as I'm seeing you and VE on the same guy I want lynched and you have the balls to call Foolishness 100% mafia and say it's either a bus from me or a townie being right?
Sure I think Foolishness is the best lynch but I wouldn't have the balls to call it that 100% certain oO

Also when I voted foolish it was 2-2-2 in votes. I might be called the reason you're "wagon" is losing steam, again you're welcome

Yeah I was watching you subtly try to take credit for that.
Horseshit, good sir. If there's any reason I'm not getting lynched today it's through my own damn merit.

This is another one of those cases Toad where I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't. If I'm not 100% confident people call me wishy washy, and now that I am you find it fishy. Fuck 'wishy-washy,' I'm never using it as a strict tell ever again.

okay here's the thing. I said I'm ignoring you for today because I got that people disagree with what I said about you and I'm rethinking the whole thing. You just implied that I was trying to get off a losing wagon which was obviously horseshit because it wasn't a losing wagon until I unvoted. Gonzaw specifically said something along the lines of "well looks like Foolish or VE day today" after I voted Foolishness if I recall correctly. I'm not taking credit for anything, I'm rubbing it under your nose because that comment of yours annoyed me.

So sorry for rubbing it under your nose but I can't stand it if you're flinging shit at me that's completly made up.
See, I'm taking my time to rethink you, I'm actually doing that because I know how badly tunneling can end up and especially you should know so as well. So could you please take a bit of that same medicine and just stop the flinging shit for no reason-part?

It's not no reason, you're attempting to take credit for something I don't believe deserves it. I wasn't getting lynched once I showed up last night and started talking, despite where the votes were/are. I do appreciate you untunneling however, though I'm not really sure you had a choice given your case was pretty torn up. I'm sorry my comment annoys you but it's the way I am attempting to think about the game right now, especially because I am worried about Foolishness's inevitable return pre-lynch, which i will likely not be here for.

Toad let's just talk.
If Foolishness comes back and posts a whole bunch, do you think he is still likely to be lynched?

yes

Why? He was pretty decent about not getting himself lynched yesterday, why wouldn't he be able to do it again?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:03 GMT
#1763
On January 26 2014 05:00 gonzaw wrote:
Toad, why are you refusing to talk about VE?
He's the hotspot in the thread at the moment, yet you are the only one going on a tangent with WoS about Foo or whatever and not discussing him at all.

Isn't that because I've been asking him?
As far as VE goes I'd like to try to understand how I'm VE's #2 personally above someone like Toad tbh.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:05 GMT
#1765
On January 26 2014 05:04 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 05:00 gonzaw wrote:
Toad, why are you refusing to talk about VE?
He's the hotspot in the thread at the moment, yet you are the only one going on a tangent with WoS about Foo or whatever and not discussing him at all.

Isn't that because I've been asking him?


Well..yeah, but still.
You've been going in that back and forth with him, but you also discuss VE. Why can't he? Unless he still didn't have time to properly read filters or something

I wouldn't accept not reading as an excuse by this point. Hell I didn't really accept it earlier.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:10 GMT
#1767
On January 26 2014 05:05 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 26 2014 05:00 gonzaw wrote:
Toad, why are you refusing to talk about VE?
He's the hotspot in the thread at the moment, yet you are the only one going on a tangent with WoS about Foo or whatever and not discussing him at all.

I've said that I'd like to see if this continues and judge him the next day.
I know ongoing game... but check out SMB mini mafia d2 lynch and my post directly before that. That gives you a good idea. Shouldn't be a problem to mention this as I've already flipped. That'll maybe take you 60 seconds

You think VE is doing something similar to what you did in that game?
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WaveofShadow
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January 25 2014 20:21 GMT
#1772
I'm gonna sit back---you two should have a chat imo.
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WaveofShadow
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January 25 2014 20:29 GMT
#1777
On January 26 2014 05:24 austinmcc wrote:
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On January 26 2014 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I DO TOO HAVE THE BALLS TO DIE FOR MY TOWN! YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU CAD!!!
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I miss Ace.
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January 25 2014 20:39 GMT
#1784
On January 26 2014 05:35 austinmcc wrote:
Mostly afk while cooking delicious foods. Still considering. I don't think I'm straying from VE and Foolishness today. Don't want to vote Toad right now, so if I strayed it would be possible WoS (weird townread on VE, some posts with a small quantity of meat (same applies to Foolishness), and he also +1ed Foolishness's "sandroba active now so he's probably townie" statement).

Kita is entirely off my radar in a bad way, I have not chatted with him today like I wanted to, and when I think of his filter this game, nothing particularly good or bad springs to mind. He's also still the probably candidate for a Foolishness partner, i THINK.

Can you show me that?
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WaveofShadow
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January 25 2014 20:41 GMT
#1786
Because as far as I can tell the only post that's even remotely similar to that is this:
On January 23 2014 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
And for the record I probably am probably scummier on inactive Foolishness than inactive sandroba. Could be bias because I have precedent in PYP for sandroba in terms of an early game lurk then blasting onto the scene, but as was mentioend before (I forget by who atm?) sandroba was actively engaging the thread when he was around, whereas Foolishness basically hasn't talked to anyone, he just threw stuff and fucked off multiple times.


In which all I say is I find Foolishness scummier than sandroba, not that he is town. And if they are both scum, well then I consider myself correct.
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January 25 2014 20:44 GMT
#1787
On January 26 2014 05:40 gonzaw wrote:
We are at 4v4 (votes on Foo and VE) right now.
Very interesting...

I'm REALLY interested on what Foo has to say when he gets here. Will he keep FoSing WoS? Will he vote VE to save himself?

Does anybody have any thoughts about this lynch polarity right now?

And that's why I ask about shenanigans, because the dead-heat means conditions are prime.
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January 25 2014 20:51 GMT
#1790
On January 26 2014 05:48 gonzaw wrote:
I mean, it's interesting because it's very likely the scum is in that group of 5 "unconfirmed". Thus, the scum (or at least 1 of them if Foo is scum) are basically ignoring the "super townies" and going straight against the wall against Foo.

It's sort of interesting, but it doesn't really explain much, especially if Foolishness is scum because he's not voting for either himself or VE. Like all that says if I'm right is that one scum is bussing Foolishness right now.
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January 25 2014 20:55 GMT
#1792
On January 26 2014 05:53 gonzaw wrote:
One way I think about it is this: By doing so, the scum in the "unconfirmed" blend in pretty well. If ALL the "unconfirmed" vote for Foo once the day ends...how do you distinguish between them? They all voted the same guy for the same reasons basically, you can't really differentiate them that much. This is independent on whether Foo is scum or not.

If Foo is scum, then 3 out of those 4 is town, and 1 is scum. The scum is jumping on the bus on Foo. But why? This makes it very likely Foo gets lynched, yet by sheeping the "confirmed", he can easily get VE lynched...if VE is not scum. Would he be scared, because he "jumps out" of all the other unconfirmed by being the only "unconfirmed" on VE? Then if VE flips town he'd be put under scrutiny? But bussing Foo is basically losing the game right now, isn't it? Wouldn't he take the chance? Or maybe he thinks Foo is still not getting lynched today and is bussing him anyways?

Of course, a very interesting scenario is both VE and Foo being scum.


Wave, Toad, kita, VE. You guys are the ones doing this. What do you think of this phenomenon?

Personally if you're going to use this to try and assume scum is in the 'unconfirmed,' then this almost confirms me as town. I was the first on Foolishness today (and technically even yesterday at your urging), and I have been hardcore defending VE since the start of the game, when it would have been super easy for me to retract that read at any time considering the pressure I was under and get an easy mislynch.

VE and Foo could both be scum as well, yes.
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January 25 2014 21:07 GMT
#1796
On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.

lol so in other words you'd vote anybody if it wasn't you.
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January 25 2014 21:09 GMT
#1800
On January 26 2014 06:08 gonzaw wrote:
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On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.


No. Explain what made you go from "He's obvious town and my only ally in this whole game!" to "I'd lynch him too"

Yeah I haven't gotten an answer to this either. It's like VE wants me to vote for him.
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January 25 2014 21:12 GMT
#1802
On January 26 2014 06:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On January 26 2014 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.

lol so in other words you'd vote anybody if it wasn't you.

I just stated who I would lynch. That's not even close to "anyone but me".

It's everyone in the 'assumed threadwide lynch list.' (Which by itself makes me go mehhhh)
So you don't want to vote for Foolish and your vote is on him?
Survival I assume?
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