Like, who would have killed hapa if not scum? LMAO
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Like, who would have killed hapa if not scum? LMAO | ||
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Literally. And I think that's unfair. You don't because you're not me and you don't know my alignment and you didn't see the meal I had to prepare the day of the lynch in question. Fair is subjective in a game with imperfect information. | ||
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Do what you gotta do. But you not gonna liiiiiiike iiiiiiiiit. | ||
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You so silly. | ||
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I'm not giving up - I'm still looking for scum. But I have no illusions about the probability of my lynch based on my play this phase and last. What about you? Do YOU think I'm not a likely lynch today? It's a matter of priorities. My first priority is NOT to stay alive. That's scum's first priority. My first priority is to find scum. And I've been trying, but I get shit on every time I try. EVERY TIME. Can you not see how this is frustrating to me? Can you not understand why that would make me so angry I want to quit the game? Because this is a Shadow game and part of something larger, I'm not going to quit the game though. But I WILL accept my fate, because everyone else has. | ||
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On January 26 2014 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok a few thigns: VE wtf was that vote on me? I don;t even understand your reasoning for it. Because I think you're town and no one else does? Is that it? As far as marv;s argument, the problem is not only would you be comparing mafia to town mindset, you also have to remember that VE and I are two different people. My motivation has been ridiculously on this game not only because I'm not and want to win, but because of the game itself. Marv you remember me asking you pre-game if I should even play in this game? Part of my motivation this game is to show myself (and others) that I deserve to be in here. In any other game I highly doubt I would be spending such a great deal of the free time I barely have to post in massive bursts. VE may not be similarly motivated as town (or obviously as scum). Now as for Foolishness, call me dumb but I'm starting to worry about how quickly it's being picked up. Especially by people like Toad. And even then if I'm right and Foolishness truly is mafia, is everybody going to be bamboozled by him again when he comes back with an hour to go and posts a flashy essay? It was that and the fact that Hapa suspected you and died - but gonzaw pointed out that he posted his suspicion AFTER the scum had made their shot, so it comes back to the "he's the only one who's right about me" which is NOT a strong enough point to lynch imo. | ||
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On January 26 2014 04:39 gonzaw wrote: VE, this is simple for me: If you are town, well then fuck I guess, what are you going to do? But if you are scum, and we let you live....what will this tell us about valid scum strategies for future games? If you are scum and we let you live, you just successfully NOT played the game, and survived. You, and other scum in future games, will see this as a viable strategy. Scum in next games will just go "I'm under pressure what do I do!!!? Oh wait I'll just give up, appeal to their emotions and they'll let me live, easy as pie". Do you want to see this happening in future games? Do you want to see scum intentionally NOT playing the game, just because it would seem to be a viable strategy for them to survive and push their scum agenda? That's not how I envision mafia games. So, I don't want to let you pass VE. It goes beyond this game. Like I said, this is what made me make my switch to sandro last game. I also don't want to enforce the fact that scum can go AFK for 30 hours, come with a shitty case and coast through the game. I don't want mafia games to be like that, therefore actions like that should not go unpunished. Same happens to you VE. Actually, yes, the point that I want to make is that town should punish this kind of behaviour more and more in games. I've seen lots of games where stuff like this happens and the scum coasts through the game and wins (Risen in TLIII anyone?). But town gets second thoughts, or gets too scared to actually do something, and scum win (IMO) unfairly. The problem is that you aren't even attempting to find scum either. You randomly voted your highest townread because of false shitty WIFOM, then parked your vote on the dude with the highest votes. Tell me how that's "finding scum, my #1 priority"? The bolded is the problem I have with your "analysis" of my play. I AM town, so what the fuck AM I gonna do? I'm gonna look for scum and not give a shit if I'm lynched. If I care that I'm getting lynched, I'm just gonna rage because the reasons I'm being lynched are so nebulous and ridiculous that of course I'm not going to be okay with it. So I'm not caring in an attempt to still be able to read the thread objectively. If I cared about being lynched, then I'd have to sit here and argue with you for however many hours trying to explain to you HOW I got to this point, and I'm just not fucking willing gonzaw. I'm instead trying to find scum. Just ignore me and vote for me - quit trying to convince me I'm scum because IT'S NOT TRUE AND IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. | ||
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