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On December 24 2013 11:45 FirmTofu wrote: What do you suggest for day 5? I'm curious why the hosts of Resistance 2 did it differently from the Wikipedia reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resistance_(game), which recommends 3,4,4,5,5 for each consecutive day, respectively. hi. That was done to make the game a little easier since the spy team wrecked resistance 1, since everyone was so lost. Read the pre-game chatter in Tunnel rats, lots of confusion about the first game, what they we're meant to be doing ect. | ||
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I'll pick a team consisting of people who are actively involved in the game and look town. I'd like to think i'm pretty good at finding townies, and I only need to find two since I'll be including myself in the team. | ||
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So which grack am I getting this game? The trolling one from LXIII or the one I remember from Student? | ||
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Yes. I found it pretty trolly. Can I expect more of the same here? | ||
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On December 27 2013 09:46 Hopeless1der wrote: Hmm..i disagree with rayn about voting usually being anonymous. I guess my friends play with weird rules. I'm used to IRL voting where a choice is selected with a hidden tile and then revealed all at once, then votes are tallied and you know who voted for what and have that as information to analyze. Anyways, do you think there is ever a scenario where the leader SHOULDNT send themselves on a team? Yes, the scenario that springs to mind for me is when the entire town has someone labelled as scum and its their turn to lead, then its in their best interest to remove themselves from the team and send their top 3 townreads, as it'll just be downvoted if they include themselves. Chances are their team is getting downvoted anyway since people aren't going to trust their team, but if they send 3 people I have town reads on, I really don't care who suggests it. | ||
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On December 27 2013 10:33 Hopeless1der wrote: Lets suppose at least 1 of those 3 go on to fail a mission. Are you, as leader, culpable in the failure? It should be a consideration, not a slam dunk. But there is at least one spy on the team, that is concrete information. So you look at the leaders motivations for sending each person on the team. | ||
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On December 27 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Adam if you needed to decide the team now who'd you pick? If I had to send a team right this second - i'd be sending myself, hopeless and probably yourself. The way hopeless approached the 'leaders voting putting themselves on teams' showed more conviction and confidence than his entire filter in LXIII. While I might not agree with what he was saying, he explained himself well. You seem pretty invested in the game so far, not afraid to attack people and make waves. Your thoughts on what has been discussed up until now seem to mirror my own so that bodes well for you being town. VE, do you intend on doing something other than one-liners this game? | ||
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On December 27 2013 18:48 Koshi wrote: Ok, let me ask a simple question so the scummers can look like they are contributing. How does the voting thingie work? 1) Leader proposes team. (Phase 1) 2) All peepz vote yay or nay, majority wins? (Phase 2) 3) if nay we go back to Phase 1 with new leader, if yay we go into nightphase. Am I correct? I believe that to be the case, yes. Majority wins. If not, we go back to phase 1. | ||
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Which in itself is probably a tell. Do something useful instead of professing your towniness repeatedly. | ||
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He says he wants to send people that are active, so he adds VE to his proposed team, who had a grand total of 5 lines to his filter at that point. He wants to take hopeless out of the team because he might lurk, yet VE is completely fine with 5 lines. He theorizes me and grack are scum, pushing a townie hopeless to take the fall for the mission failure, yet still removes hopeless from his team. I do not like that. I am going to stick to my proposed team of myself, hopeless and rayn. Ill submit it after I have a shower and throw down a fistful of painkillers for this hangover. | ||
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On December 28 2013 09:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: also Adam are you here? I'm back. kind of. Feel like trash. Don't know what yall are seeing in VE's filter that'd be worth sending him on a mission. | ||
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On December 28 2013 15:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Adam why have you not yay voted your team? Because you touch yourself at night, rayn. -_- | ||
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When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes. The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss. | ||
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On December 28 2013 12:04 FirmTofu wrote: I'll assume yay unless you type nay for whatever reason. How do you not read this and assume that I am yay voting my own team? If i had to send a 4th member, sentinel or maybe cora. | ||
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On December 29 2013 08:53 Grackaroni wrote: Level of resistance? The team has already passed lol. Only just by the looks of it. 5-4 is all i'd expect from a town team. If it had gone over in a landslide, then I'd know i'd fucked up. | ||
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On December 29 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have already "voted yes" so why the sudden hesitation? I am not hesitant. I said I am almost certainly voting yes. My god. ARE YOU EVEN READING. We have the time, why would we not use it. | ||
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On December 29 2013 09:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Why would an all town team have no resistance? Wouldn't it be the other way around, with spies coming in to start something and try and get a different team into play? There hasn't been no resistance. We have 4 people voting no or declaring they're going to vote no. Thats a team passing by the smallest of margins. | ||
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Rayn, same question to you | ||
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On December 29 2013 10:11 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm around, adam you gonna let this fail or lock in a yay? Frankly I am not sure. I'm torn between my arrogance in thinking I have the right team, my paranoia that maybe I've got it wrong and my desire for more time and discussion and to look at more votes. | ||
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On December 29 2013 10:23 Hopeless1der wrote: welll i'll say this in favor of you being town adam: you didnt just lock in your yay vote when there was no substantial reason not to. After all, you proposed your team. If you are having reservations about me or rayn, what might they be? Well, your activity was a little lower than I was hoping. But I guess I shouldn't throw stones in a glass house. Rayns down vote was for a shit reason, but why would he downvote the team if he was scum? That doesn't really make sense. Then there's Koshi, coming back, doing a backflip on his reads and yay voting my team through, when I thought he was scum. Why would he do that if he were scum and this was an all town team like I think? If i'm wrong about him, then I have to be wrong about a few others because things aren't making sense. Chairman Ray gives me pause in that he voted yes, yet has given zero reads on anyone on the team and I don't even see a post saying why he went yes over no. Grack saying my team looked good earlier in the day, then no voting it and declaring he was going to vote no to any team proposed today makes me question anything coming out of him. | ||
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On December 29 2013 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i wouldn't. I don't trust you, especially after your comment on the top of the current page. You don't like the fact that I want to take extra time to make sure I don't fuck this up? Why This ultimately rests in my hands, as I have the swing vote and I want to make sure i'm making the right decision. | ||
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On December 29 2013 10:41 Corazon wrote: Why are you only being cautious now as opposed to being cautious when you picked a team? Because I picked my two strongest town reads at the time when I made my team..? Why would I need to be cautious about that? Things have happened since then, and with that new information, I am less sure, as the people voting with me are not the people I expected to be doing so when I made this team. | ||
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On December 29 2013 10:46 Grackaroni wrote: What do you think is going on with Koshi Rayn? It all made sense for Koshi-scum and Rayn-town, right up until they both voted the complete opposite I expected them to. Now I have no fucking clue. I don't feel confident enough in this to send this team right now. We have 4 more chances after this one, so lets err on the side of caution and use them. Balls in your court, VE. | ||
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On December 30 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Adam4167 - I really do not like the fact Adam down-voted his own team, which in his opinion should be all town as he picked it. I would like him to fully explain the thoguht process behind doing so. To me it makes no sense he first says "ofc ima vote yay", then argues that the team is all town when it meets resistance and proceeds on down-voting it. Here is why I down-voted my own team: I place a huge emphasis on winning this first day as its almost an automatic win. We're running on a 3,4,4,5(2),5 setup day structure. We win the first day, then all we have to do is take that winning team and add one more townie to it, and then send that team on day 2 and again on day 3. So it is simple. We win day 1, find a single townie not on the that team, and the game is over. If I can recognize this, then I assume many others can as well, including the scum team. They literally cannot afford to just throw the first day and let 3 townies go on the mission. So when I have giant questionmarks over people such as Koshi Chairman Ray, and they come out and yay vote my team through with shaky or non-existent reasoning, that makes me very suspicious that I've made a mistake somewhere. I want to take the extra cycles to solidify my reads and make I make the right call. | ||
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Basically, what I want to know is, what is your current read on me? What are your thoughts on me passing my own team? If your scum team is correct, then why did both Koshi and Chairman Ray vote yay yesterday? | ||
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On December 31 2013 05:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Well maybe later on it's a good question. Right now it's just meaningless conjecture and WIFOM. And there you go, discrediting me for asking the right questions. The reason I asked you that question yesterday is because your scum team literally fails to explain the votes on day one and you don't seem to be looking at the game logically at all. I challenge your logic and now you call it meaningless conjecture and WIFOM. You say that you're not entirely sold on grack and I could be the 3rd scum with koshi and CR, when I was the first person to call Koshi out and subsequently say I'd downvote any team including him when people we're starting to call him town. If I back out of my own team with Koshi voting yes, and I downvote any team including him, what the hell is my game plan with that scum team? To play against my win condition and troll my team? You are not making any sense, you are not thinking logically about the game. I vote nay on this team. | ||
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With more thought, you have no reason to downvote the team as scum there. If you're scum, just send the team, fail it and dump the mess on me. Chances are I backed out of a winning team yesterday. Which means that the scum team would be VE, Grack and Cora due to their votes. Which means Koshi and CR are town, and VE suggested a team with his scum teammate on it. I don't like that conclusion either. I'll do a full reread tonight and try and make some sense of this. I'm off to work now. | ||
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On December 31 2013 12:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Wouldn't the bolded still imply CR/Koshi could be guilty since they sent the team, and could have been trying to set you up for failure? Phoneposting. That's only possible if one of hopeless or Rayn are scum to sabotage the mission. | ||
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