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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 00:26 GMT
#299
On January 11 2014 09:23 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 11 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.

/thread


I don't really think ... [shortened for size constraints]


If your typical thought about me is "blazinghand is unlikely to post enough and will probably lurk" then that's fine, totally reasonable to think.


You seem plenty active now, but I'm afraid of the possible consequences if you became Mayor. Frankly, I think I'd do a better job. I've never played in a Mayor/PM game though so I'm leaning towards someone more experienced.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm a classic low content player / lurker.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 00:27 GMT
#300
On January 11 2014 09:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Curse my lack of multiple tabs on my phone. DrH should obviously be on that list. Also kush is now subject to normal reading by me at least since he gave moderately thought out reasoning in extractor trick. Scummy, but by kush standards thought out. So yeah.


let's be clear here, you think that you can tell when kush is town because he gives moderately thought out reasoning, based on his play in Extractor Trick?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 00:34 GMT
#303
I'm asking because (and I could be wrong here, who knows?!) I THINK kush was scum in extractor trick.

Yes, that's right, the one time kush actually contributed stuff, he was scum. Here's 100% what's going to happen this game whether you guys like it or not: kush is going to contribute very little regardless of his alignment. He will be hypothetically readable to some kush expert (which I am not) and perhaps people will even form reads on him. Given that hopeless1 has assured me he knows when kush is town by saying kush was active kinda sort last game, when kush was scum, I get th efeeling that everyone is just like me and has no flipping clue how to read kush.

Now, I'll be the first person to say a policy lynch is a policy lynch: I am calling for a policy lynch on kush. If you object to me personally being mayor, that's fine, find me someone else equally good (marv, DrH) who is willing to do the dirty work and lynch kush today. This game we'll start from the bottom and clear out all the unreadable players who never post, all the lurkers, all the kushes, and we'll have an actual damn game of mafia. Scum are down there! We won't lose if we policy a few horribly anti-town players, and it will be fun, too.

Blazinghand for Duke!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 00:35 GMT
#306
On January 11 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.

/thread

Why don't you wait and see how he plays first? What's with all the people deciding to policy lynch that early in the game without even considering the play of the person in question...


Marv will you try to be elected?


Not considering the play of the person in question? are you flipping kidding me? kush's play is not necessary "awful" per se but it's the kind of play that in my personol onion demands a response that optimizes our chance of winning this game. That response is lynching kush. I know EXACTLY how kush is going to play this game, and let's not kid anyone here: so do you. He's going to lurk. he's going to make occasional posts. If he's town, he will try to vote whoever is the scummiest, but if he's scum his activity will basically be the same. We should get rid of him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 02:34 GMT
#354
I have yet to receive a om from slam
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 03:20 GMT
#372
I was hoping to get a couple more replies before we decided to take this into the thread, but yes, let's elect DrH.

I like how much thought DrH has been putting into the game. Reading his posts, I'm immediately aware of his thought process and it jives with how I think town DrH would think. There will be a temptation to not vote DrH for mayor because you think he's too clever, because you think his cleverness is an indication that his helpfulness is not alignment-indicative. Don't listen to it. If you don't vote DrH it should be for reasons like "I think he's scum" or "I really want kush lynched d1 no matter what so i'm voting BH".

In DrH's favor: The fact that DrH thought about situations how the hammer can be used in an aggressive way to help town indicates to me a town mindset. I suspect a scum player, even a scum DrH, wouldn't immediately think about how the Hammer could be used to put on the pressure. A scum player likes other things about the Mayor role, thinks other things about the mayor role

as an aside: There is one difference to someone claiming miller, though as everyone has said it is a nulltell, it means cops shouldn't bother checking him. The two possibilities (real miller or scum faking miller) both have the same outcome to a check.

The Kush thing is real, I want to lynch kush, but there's the real possibility that DrH will use the hammertech better than me. Just the fact that he thought about it and is strategising about how to use it to benefit town means he HAS to, don't you see? A scum DrH has to use the hammer to help town or else he violates a campaign promise, so scum DrH wouldn't say that. Scum DrH wouldn't even be thinking on those lines.

DrH for mayor.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 03:26 GMT
#378
All but 3-10 people.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:36 GMT
#768
##vote Doctorhelvetica

quick thoughts

1) kush campaign was semi legit but mostly just for the talking. realistically speaking people love derping around and complaining about how nobody has anything to talk about. kush is an okay policy lynch but he's no oatsmaster. (heh)

2) I honestly belive DrH is our best mayor here. the fact that he thought about how to use the hammering power optimally and laid out a plan and defended it should be more than enough of a reason. even if he's scum (plausible, as DrH is pretty sharp; he could have done this to try to win it as scum) he's still written himself into a corner in terms of how he uses the hammering vote. this is subject to change but short of someone claiming mason I don't think it will

3) i omitted certain people from my mass pm, mostly people I was already talking to via pm, but also one or two people I didn't want to talk to. I did the mass pm because I wanted to see how people would react differently to it and gather data. one of the things i was checking for was how quickly people would figure out it was a mass pm (since scum would know instantly as they would be comparing pms in the scum qt). I was not anticipating people discussing the pm in the thread so quickly, so this derailed my plan. I'll figure out something else for finding scum.

4) if you pmed me and I haven't gotten back to you, I'm sorry, pm me again so it shows as unread. thanks!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:44 GMT
#779
that's a great reason though. i maen i guess there's also the "who gets lynched d1" thing
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:45 GMT
#780
well i retract any reason of lynchinig kush! don't lynch him as he is actually vayne
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:46 GMT
#784
On January 12 2014 07:45 marvellosity wrote:
I guess Koshi is getting disappointed with his desire to see a great town BH game again then


ok maybe the mass DrH PM wasn't PERFECT but if people hadn't immediately claimed it in thread I might have gotten some results. it was wroth a try. let me get my mojo going, i'll prove myself!! !
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:51 GMT
#793
On January 12 2014 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:45 marvellosity wrote:
I guess Koshi is getting disappointed with his desire to see a great town BH game again then


ok maybe the mass DrH PM wasn't PERFECT but if people hadn't immediately claimed it in thread I might have gotten some results. it was wroth a try. let me get my mojo going, i'll prove myself!! !

So you are voting a guy for mayor because "he is sharp". This guy has forgotten about 50% of the people he has PM'd with 24h into the game.

Again, elaborate on that statement of yours.


50% of pms is just a rounding error in a game of mafia
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:52 GMT
#794
On January 12 2014 07:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Since your policy lynch is gone BH how do you feel about lynching xatalos?


xatalos is stuck on me, and from my interactions with him it seems like he's pretending to be ignorant of my meta. as a result, i'd be fine with lynching xatalos. after correcting for my "don't just lynch people because they dislike you" bias I am less convinced, though. I'm not so sure scum would stick out their neck and attack big strong players for no real reason
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:56 GMT
#799
On January 12 2014 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
I will obey the wisdom of the crowds.

Town controls mayor powers.


this is categorically true though, town de facto controls who gets the powers since you vote the mayor in
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:59 GMT
#809
On January 12 2014 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Since your policy lynch is gone BH how do you feel about lynching xatalos?


xatalos is stuck on me, and from my interactions with him it seems like he's pretending to be ignorant of my meta. as a result, i'd be fine with lynching xatalos. after correcting for my "don't just lynch people because they dislike you" bias I am less convinced, though. I'm not so sure scum would stick out their neck and attack big strong players for no real reason


How am I ignoring your meta? Granted we only discussed for a short while and that was a long time ago.


you described me as inexperienced and low activity which is basically like describing chezinu as serious and readable
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 22:59 GMT
#810
On January 12 2014 07:58 marvellosity wrote:
Slam isn't getting elected, and no mayor is having their powers WotC, this is an exceptionally silly conversation that should be stopped.


marv is correct.

On January 12 2014 07:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
I will obey the wisdom of the crowds.

Town controls mayor powers.

Dost thou not have thine own opinions and thine own will?

I do but I lay them at the feet of the people.


slam you can say this all you want but until you do something that a scum player can't/wouldn't you will not recieve any votes
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 23:16 GMT
#842
On January 12 2014 08:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
Hopeless, are you going to do anything else other than troll pointlessly about being mayor?

No, I'm gonna get voted mayor.

wy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 23:23 GMT
#858
On January 12 2014 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm a Mason who is going to serve as the posterchild for a hidden town circle. Vote me mayor. Or yamato...but mostly me.


##vote Hopeless1der
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 23:25 GMT
#861
On January 12 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:
Ok I read OP and know what mason is now. 2 guys that know they are both town. Sounds fun.


hopeless1 should probably make his mason partner one of his bodyguard.

hopeless, tell NOBODy who your partner is
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 11 2014 23:30 GMT
#869
On January 12 2014 08:26 marvellosity wrote:
Why are you voting for Hopeless, BH?


he's mason, he has a conftown he can make his bodyyguard ez
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