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On December 11 2013 23:30 Spaghetticus wrote: See: encouraging people to think about things that are not conducive to finding town See: Filling a filter full of fluff Are you panicking? Why are you suddenly so weak? I'm not panicking. I'm just incredulous at how bad your case is. If you are town, don't let confirmation bias start making you see things that aren't there. If you are scum. Carry on. | ||
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But the case is also awful and doesn't ring true to me, after so much time and after apparently being on his second read through of the thread I would expect something more than that. What do you think rayn? Is spag more or less likely to be scum after reading that case? | ||
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On December 11 2013 23:19 Spaghetticus wrote: I respect your ability as I said Pluto. The town read was bad, you would know this as either alignment. I'm also only FOSing you. I know that this is not strong enough to get either of you lynched, and I'm not confident enough either way to actually want you lynched. My purpose behind this post was to demonstrate that I've been thinking as a town. You're acting crazy defensive tho. Generally the purpose of scum hunting is to lynch and find scum But in this post spag clearly states his motivation for scumhunting as survival. The first part Spag backtrack's from his read. Note that in order for his association case to be meaningful at all he must believe that both Kush and I are both scum or his case falls apart. Yet he is calling kush scum but only 'FoS'ing' me. (As an aside I hate the term FOS and believe it should never be used.) He says that his case is not strong enough to get us lynch nor that he actually wants us lynched. Discrediting your own cases immediately is something I associate with scum. Town wants people to follow their reads scum wants to appear active but actually achieve nothing. In that case why make the case at all? Well that is answered in the last part of the post. On December 11 2013 23:19 Spaghetticus wrote: My purpose behind this post was to demonstrate that I've been thinking as a town. His 'case' was purely an exercise in 'appearing to be town'. The motive behind it is self preservation rather than finding scum. I understand that the preservation instinct appears within a town mindset also. But I felt that this post immediately following the case, which was much less crafted than it, reveals a scummy mindset. | ||
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On December 11 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just look at the post he made in LXIII half past D1 where he shared his thoughts. Seriously, his behavior in this game and there is like comparing a day and a night.. This is a good point actually. I read through that game and spag appeared to be clearly town. This game he is scummy as shit. | ||
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On December 11 2013 23:48 Spaghetticus wrote: Hmm... this is frustrating. Up until recently I had you green. I still think you probably green though I'm beginning to doubt myself. This attack is... too specific. I'm not the scummiest person here, your vote seems motivated by something other than lynching the scummiest player. OMGUS? Yes I have a tendency to attack people that attack me. Where better to start? To dismiss my points as OMGUS though... I haven't been illogical, and I've attacked people for legitimate reasons. I find it incredible that you are casting suspicion on two of the most clearly town people in the game. | ||
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On December 11 2013 23:51 bumatlarge wrote: What about vayneauthority, I don't have a read there Holw about you comment on the currently relevant goings on in the thread. Spag has posted a case. There have been opinions shared on it. | ||
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##vote: Spag I think spag has a very good chance of flipping scum. Please vig Slam. | ||
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On December 11 2013 23:58 kushm4sta wrote: that case was too fucked up for speghetti to be scum I think That is a good point actually. But his meta. Look at how differently he has played in this game to his last. Add that to not scum hunting and posting cases purely for survival. Eh I'm not sure. | ||
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On December 12 2013 00:03 JarJarDrinks wrote: Wait, so you agree that they're "two of the most clearly town people in the game"? lol | ||
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On December 12 2013 00:04 Spaghetticus wrote: That game (and note that I've already stated this and you didn't like that I did) I had a very strong read. Out of my five previous games I'm pretty sure last one is the only one in which I caught scumsign that early. Thinking that one datapoint a trend makes is particularly wrong in this case. I'm usually under fire for being active but not having strong reads. If you are who I think you are Plutarch, you know this (meant for Plutarch only, if it's inapplicable, ignore). This is actually bullshit. I just went and look through your previous two town games and the quality of your posts and scum hunting were much better than in this game. [g]Town[/g] LXIII: This post was very solid and made at the start of day one. [g]Town[/g] NMM XXXIV: This post and This where both very solid and made early day one. In this game you have done nothing but appear active. | ||
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On December 12 2013 00:29 Spaghetticus wrote: I'm now working on refuting that case btw. It'll take awhile because it's gonna require a lot of tabs and it is by far the weightiest attack on me so far. The rest will have to wait. Don't bother. The only thing that will save you is being proactive and productive in scum hunting. | ||
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I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened. I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest. When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this. Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip. Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed. Spag is Scum. Please lynch spag. | ||
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On December 12 2013 12:24 Corazon wrote: It doesn't matter. I'm vig and I'm shooting you. This is dumb as shit. | ||
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