On December 15 2013 06:06 Xatalos wrote: LOL nice. This at least means rayn has to be town.
And me for bringing up Purple when Rayn wanted to lynch Xigxag. Only false if Xigxag is also scum.
Hmmmmmm......
It's pretty hard to believe you'd do that as scum.
If you think it'd be hard to believe for me to redirect a lynch onto a scum purple if I'm scum, and you think I'm scum, why did you vote for Purpletrator?
On December 15 2013 06:23 VayneAuthority wrote: Whoever our cop is should risk it another night and probably come out tomorrow if it helps at all. can't wait any longer with 2 NKs every day.
Claiming is terrible until a cop checks scum. The cop should just hint in his reads if he finds town players.
Hi, just got home, skimmed through thread. Read Xatalos posts and am even more certain of his scummyness. Suddenly has a townread on me for what I did despite no one else responding the same way and him having me as his greatest scumspect. He should be the last person to change his read on me. It can't be explained from a town perspective, but it can from a scum perspective: He would never do what I did (mentioning purple rather than a free lynch on xigxag) in my shoes, so he figured everyone else would read me the same way and changed his stance to look better when it does happen. After realizing the rest of the game didn't follow this story as quickly he tries to find an excuse to get back on me again. Dude is scum, pls lynch.
VA is a good lynch too, case from JJD was already decent and the scumclaim only adds to it, but Xatalos is a better lynch for today because of what happened last night on top of everything else. ##Vote Xatalos And now bed.
I don't care if people think Xatalos is scum or SK. As long as you believe that he's non town and want to vote for him I'm happy with that. I personally think he's scum and have documented it many times in my filter to which only Rayn has replied to and agreed on.
BH, I don't see why lynching an enigma is better than lynching someone I'm like 90% certain of is scum. I want to lynch the person I find most scummy, not someone who's just afk and could come back halfway through the game or could get modkilled in the meantime, or whatever. I want to lynch the scummiest player in the game which is Xatalos.
LSB, which points do you disagree with? I'd be happy to debate them.
On December 17 2013 05:46 LSB wrote: Biggest thing is your vote analysis of Xatalos, but I'd rather not debate whether or not Xatalos is scum with you when we both agree that he is scum
The idea of the debate would be to convince those who don't think so yet.
Sending a cop to a death sentenced player seems like an awful idea. If Rayn is still alive in D4 we'll look at his filter with scrutiny. He's confirmed not scum or scum wouldn't have coordinated it like this I don't think. Plutarch, other than the one day absence do you have any reason to suspect Rayn of being SK?
On December 17 2013 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't figure out why Xatalos would claim scum. What's the point at this point? Artanis what do you think this tells about xigxag's alignment?
I think it looks poorly for Xigxag. It certainly implicates him. Xatalos was destined to be lynched at some point after Vayne flipped, either today or tomorrow. It could be that scum hopes that he comes back in the next cycle because the main reason he's suspicious is because of his inactivity.
On December 17 2013 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Plutarch you seriously can't figure out why i can't possibly be SK? That's my one last question about this; Look above.
On December 18 2013 00:42 Plutarch wrote: You can't. You made a case on Xatalos and he does not mention you despite that. You don't mention or push xatalos despite making a case on him day one. You haven't done any serious scum hunting or made concerted pushes all game despite having decent activity.
Bullshit. Are you actually reading my filter cause I've done a ton of scumhunting. Vayne was my top scumread all game so he's the person I've been voting and pushing. I've had other people as scumreads and I've always said I'd vote for them if it came down to a vote between them and someone I didn't have a scum read on. It just so happens that Vayne has been a leading wagon all game.
Yeah all you have done all game is half hardheartedly push the scummiest townie in the game. Despite calling out actual scum day one and then ignoring them mysteriously till the end of day two.
I ignored him cause he hadn't done anything I thought was too scummy since then and I had a scumread on Vayne. Don't forget, that once purple flipped, I was pretty confident that Vayne was town. And I argued against his lynch (even though you were pretty much 100% sure he was scum also). How easy would it have been for me to just have kept my scumread on him and secure a mislynch?
Bad argument since Xatalos did the same with me. There's plenty of reasons to stop tunneling as scum. Your posts stop getting read and you lose thread influence, especially once your scumread flips green. When you tunnel someone as scum you don't actually want them to flip. Vayne was at grave risk of flipping which would make you look bad so you backpedaled.
On December 18 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah you definitely argued that Vayne is town. Here is your last post where you argue against Vayne lynch before he got modkilled: