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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 15 2013 17:03 GMT
#2480
I like how Plutarch thinks
I still think sidesprang is scum
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 15 2013 17:10 GMT
#2482
That's just in case I die, I don't like doing analysis at night. Cause if the person I talk about flips, people start looking at me even more funnily
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 01:42 GMT
#2547
#Policylynch

##VOTE:VayneAuthority
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 18:53 GMT
#2623
I want to see another one of xigxag's 'analysis'
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 18:57 GMT
#2626
Also, anyone have any idea why Kushmasta was killed? I don't think it is a coincidence that we got two medics blue sniped on us.

I'm just reading his filter and incredibly confused
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 18:59 GMT
#2629
I'm cool with taking out the trash, always a good alternative to a lynch. But we have 26 hours to work with and I might as well get some headway on other stuff
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 18:59 GMT
#2630
On December 17 2013 03:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 03:57 LSB wrote:
Also, anyone have any idea why Kushmasta was killed? I don't think it is a coincidence that we got two medics blue sniped on us.

I'm just reading his filter and incredibly confused


what do you think of xigxag? you have made no posts about him, nor about my current case, other than a (joking?) post about seeing his analysis.

Xigxag doesn't post and doesn't say anything and made a horrible case. Anyone can see that
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 19:06 GMT
#2632
o.O seriously? Talking about a lurker is more important than figuring out why we lost 2 doctors already?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#2634
Okay I see probably was SK fishing for scum. Just gonna post my notes in case it helps someone else

Consolidated Night action post
Night 1
SK KP - Kills Bum
Blazinghand (Corazon) Shoots Holyflare
Mafia KP is blocked

Night 2
SK KP - Kills Kushm4sta
Mafia KP is blocked
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 19:14 GMT
#2637
Giff me time mr. Still trying to work out reads since I wasn't really here for the past couple of days
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#2639
Updated

On December 14 2013 04:12 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend.

Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy

Gee, I wonder who Holyflare
(Holyflare the Medic has been shot by an ass-bullet!)
decided to protect. Hmmmmmmmm lets all think really really hard about this now guys. I wonder. Who could it be?


Consolidated Night action post
Night 1
SK KP - Kills Bum
Blazinghand (Corazon) Shoots Holyflare
Mafia KP - Shot to Plutarch and blocked by Holyflare

Night 2
SK KP - Kills Kushm4sta
Mafia KP is blocked[/QUOTE]
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 19:49 GMT
#2641
Commenting on Artanis vs Xatalos
Artanis- I'm gonna pin down Artanis as not maifa for right now. The main reasoning is his case on Xatalos is not bullshit, and it's the only half-decent case I have seen atm. Not to say that it is good, there are many points in which is disagre on, however more on that later.

Xatalos- Horrible horrible day one play. I'm going to flag his as red atm for this and this alone. The main reasoning stands from in part, my reversal of this stance
On December 10 2013 07:36 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:21 LSB wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:17 LSB wrote:
I think we need to calm down. My "townie on townie day 1 shitstorm" sense is tingling.

That speaking, oddly enough it does encourage a Xatalos lynch

Whom do you feel are townies from this and why? It hasn't really been one on one. It's been HF and Xatalos against Cora, and myself, Alakaslam and you against Xatalos. If you feel it's townie on townie, then you'd think Xatalos was town.

So far I think I am townie, I haven't really thought past that. I just don't think this day 1 attitude is gonna be very productive.

The whole entire Xatalos suspicion does require a meta read on Xatalos to see if he is brilliant enough to try for the plan on day 1, or does he just play like this.

I just skimmed through the filter he linked and I don't think it looks like the start of this game at all. He's far more aggressive here. What were you trying to say exactly with your initial post if you didn't mean to give anyone a town read but yourself? I'm confused. I don't think a plan other than "starting shit" is required for scum. That's always a good thing.

In my opinion natural scum play is to stay low, especially on day 1, the town tends to self destruct anyways day 1. This whole entire "starting shit" strat is actually pretty good, even though it is counterintuitive to the idea of trying to not draw attention. Thus I assumed this strat is not very obvious, especially since I personally never considered it.

This is all pure speculation. Something more grounded is that Xatalos is definably acting very different from before, and in my eyes less of a townie

I am going to first off start off by retracting part of this analysis. After hosting some voice mafia I'm going to say the easiest way to play scum is the powerplay. Be super active and ask lots of question, pouncing on anything that anyone can deem scummily.

Compared to GoT where Xatalos was town, Xatalos is far less conservative in his red reads. His hyperaggressiveness certainly has not helped the town which has suffered heavily from all of the flame.

+ Show Spoiler +
You may ask. "Why LSB didn't you bother lynching him day 2 for it, now you are just bandwagoning" and I will reply "I waz busy and didn't read". And then you ask "But LSB you never read don't you" and I will ask "Can you link me the game we are playing so I can read and then awnser your question"


Alakaslam
On December 15 2013 05:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude no

##un
[]%## vote xigxag


So why did he do this?
On December 15 2013 06:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 06:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 15 2013 06:31 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 15 2013 06:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
k now some one try and explain what alakaslam just tried to do, plz.

Tried to make sure you were lynched before LSB if it was gonna be those wagons. I didn't have confidence in Rayne, his word is now strong with me.


doesn't explain this

On December 15 2013 06:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote?

Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig.


and then you and purple vote to try and kill me.



You preferred purple and saw that purple was about to be lynched, then in tandem with purple tried to last second kill me.

I switched to xigxag and had been defending you all day, how do you arrive at that conclusion? You are emo tunneled like jarjardrinks was emo tunneling you.

So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.

Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate

Current Scum Team Reads willing to bandwagon anyone in this list who is put up to the lynch:
Xatalos/SideSprang/Alakaslam/purpletrator

##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 20:46 GMT
#2645
Biggest thing is your vote analysis of Xatalos, but I'd rather not debate whether or not Xatalos is scum with you when we both agree that he is scum
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 16 2013 21:24 GMT
#2648
Ya Alak is the safer lynch of course. If a bandwagon going on him I'll lynch him too. Right now the bandwagon is on Xata though so that's why i'm voting Xata
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 17 2013 00:14 GMT
#2650
I lynch people who I think are scum. It's as simple as that.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 17 2013 00:31 GMT
#2657
I believe we have difference in how we play mafia.

My play revolves around identifying who I think is scum and then going after them. If I doubt that they are scum, I remove them off of my list and no longer go after them. I do not relish the concept of lynching someone who I think is town, and unless I am consolidating my vote to a major candidate I will no push someone who I think may be town.

Alakaslam is safer because we caught him lying, while Xatalos is more of a read based on day 1 play. I still think both of them are scum and would be willing to lynch either. Nor do I want you to forget SideSprang.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 17 2013 00:49 GMT
#2662
@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched.

On December 17 2013 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse.

Then I opted out of the discourse because I got suspicious of Rayne's snap wagon.

As scum. I "knew" the bus was going down when I initially voted purple. You guys take me for a fool scum? You're kidding me, grab dat towncred with both hands. No way I'm giving up being part of a bus, to defend a teammate who is clearly getting suspicious enough for the snapwagon to happen anyway. If I was as knowledgable about the implications of the switch as you all imply with my "lie" then I would have known it didn't save purple and would not have done it.

I take this as an insult to my scum play.


This is the full explanation
So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.

Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 17 2013 01:01 GMT
#2667
On December 17 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I like your explanation for why alak is scum, I just think that it still applies even if Xata is town.

Like let me phrase it this way

Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak

Both of my cases are independent of each other. So it doesn't apply in this case

But yes, should one of my cases be dependent on the other being scum (A is scum if B is scum) (ie PYP mafia day 3) I am more willing to lynch B first, and then A.

I'd prefer we stop this discussion simply because it has little relevance to what is actually going on in this game. I am more than happy to take it to PMs or postgame if you want to chat about optimal mafia play. Should you wish to defend Xata I am all ears
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 17 2013 01:04 GMT
#2669
On December 17 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 09:49 LSB wrote:
@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched.

On December 17 2013 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse.

Then I opted out of the discourse because I got suspicious of Rayne's snap wagon.

As scum. I "knew" the bus was going down when I initially voted purple. You guys take me for a fool scum? You're kidding me, grab dat towncred with both hands. No way I'm giving up being part of a bus, to defend a teammate who is clearly getting suspicious enough for the snapwagon to happen anyway. If I was as knowledgable about the implications of the switch as you all imply with my "lie" then I would have known it didn't save purple and would not have done it.

I take this as an insult to my scum play.


This is the full explanation
So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.

Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate

This assumes I believed vayne would wind up being the target.

That is the fallacy. I don't think I knew that at the time. Either I knew it wouldn't change anything or I thought it had a chance or neither, I simply panicked.

You did it 2 minutes before the deadline... and at the same time as Purpletrator...

Next game, do it 1 minute before the deadline and you might be able to pull it off
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 17 2013 01:14 GMT
#2674
What's with all this postgame stuff? If you flip green and really need some help just pm me and I'll be happy to help.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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