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Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:27 GMT
#621
On December 10 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's drop this since it's not leading into anything that can certainly be judged into a way or another (unless someone disagrees).

Grackaroni and Xatalos comments on my case on purple?
Spaghetticus i second Plutarch. In LXIII you were quite clearly town from your posting on D1. I don't see even a shoadow from that towninees here. What are you doing?


I haven't got traction yet.

In that game VE was so clearly not town it physically hurt me to see him elected. I'm still in a bit of a fugue tbh.

This isn't why I've scaled back, but it also doesn't help my motives that I was NKed early that game.

I've got plenty of time though, so I don't think my weak start will be an issue.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 10 2013 12:28 GMT
#622
By the way that was the last one. This is definitely not productive.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 12:29 GMT
#623
you never shut my guess down...
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 10 2013 12:30 GMT
#624
On December 10 2013 21:27 Spaghetticus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's drop this since it's not leading into anything that can certainly be judged into a way or another (unless someone disagrees).

Grackaroni and Xatalos comments on my case on purple?
Spaghetticus i second Plutarch. In LXIII you were quite clearly town from your posting on D1. I don't see even a shoadow from that towninees here. What are you doing?


I haven't got traction yet.

In that game VE was so clearly not town it physically hurt me to see him elected. I'm still in a bit of a fugue tbh.

This isn't why I've scaled back, but it also doesn't help my motives that I was NKed early that game.

I've got plenty of time though, so I don't think my weak start will be an issue.


This seems like nonsense to me. Many things have happened in this game on which you can comment. I don't care what happened in your previous game. Time to step up and do something.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 10 2013 12:32 GMT
#625
On December 10 2013 21:29 Grackaroni wrote:
you never shut my guess down...


If I played in dessert why would I be using an older game as meta? You guys....
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:33 GMT
#626
I was specifically asked the difference between this game and last. No need to go out of your way to be dismissive.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 10 2013 12:34 GMT
#627
On December 10 2013 21:33 Spaghetticus wrote:
I was specifically asked the difference between this game and last. No need to go out of your way to be dismissive.

You were asked the difference between this game and last. Not why your last game is causing you to be useless this game.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:37 GMT
#628
I gave you that bit for free. Sue me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2013 12:37 GMT
#629
On December 10 2013 21:32 Plutarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:29 Grackaroni wrote:
you never shut my guess down...


If I played in dessert why would I be using an older game as meta? You guys....


ok kita!



___________
As for spag:


Lack of sleep evolved into fugue.

Spag I killed you last game because we were blue sniping, the reason was that you were posting in a townie style but NOT ENOUGH content to appear too towny. If you want to change your game, now is the time to do it but don't scale back you need to go balls to the wall town play. Weak starts are always always always an issue. We don't know your alignment and your start suggests that you aren't doing anything to persuade us in the positive direction in general. All I've seen is your posts on Slam and that's pretty much it.

You told us you didn't like our posts trying to find out whose smurfing, yet, you provided no alternate direction for us to garner our attention. Why was that?


You say you have plenty of time but why is that? You have no content and you could be a real contender for a lynch.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:39 GMT
#630
On December 10 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's drop this since it's not leading into anything that can certainly be judged into a way or another (unless someone disagrees).

Grackaroni and Xatalos comments on my case on purple?
Spaghetticus i second Plutarch. In LXIII you were quite clearly town from your posting on D1. I don't see even a shoadow from that towninees here. What are you doing?


Well, I think it's not fruitless to investigate my meta. I'm just saying that it's much more useful to compare my later days to my meta than my D1 (since my current meta is to be aggro on D1 as either alignment, although I'm sure there are some smaller differences). My proactive town meta / lurky Mafia meta tend to become clearer later on (although naturally I try to suppress it as Mafia, it gets harder as time goes on).

I agree with your points on purpletrator (if you looked at my filter, you'd see that I questioned him for almost the same things). His play has been weak and aimless so far. He is a decent lynch candidate for sure.

I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple?

What about Corazon?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
December 10 2013 12:41 GMT
#631
On December 10 2013 20:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 20:24 sidesprang wrote:
If you read the rest of post I say I dont like to vote without justification and I have not looked into cora anything more since post nr2 (writting right before I went to bed), and post 3 was right 1h after I woke up. So I am still not any more or less willing to push for a lynch on cora than I was yesterday.


Go read him now and respond when you have done so.



Well after rereading Cora he got a bad start and I feel he might have problems playing how he wanted to play as he is getting attacked from a lot of people. Your first point is valid yet, still to early to fault him for not going after lurkers, especially considering the heat he had on him.

So for me to get a better read on Cora he needs talk more, and specificaly tell us why he finds you and purple suspicous.

I would also like to ask if his views on Xatolas has changed at all, considering all this meta talk.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 12:41 GMT
#632
On December 10 2013 21:32 Plutarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:29 Grackaroni wrote:
you never shut my guess down...


If I played in dessert why would I be using an older game as meta? You guys....

Because they all blend together in your mind! There really aren't many people out there who pretend to be Blazinghand lol.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
December 10 2013 12:42 GMT
#633
Was supposed to say not valid yet...
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2013 12:42 GMT
#634

I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple?

What about Corazon?

What's the purpose of this? If you have read my filter and know who's my vote on you'd know the answers to these questions. Also what do you think of Grackaroni's answer to my case on purple?
table for two on a tv tray
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 10 2013 12:46 GMT
#635
On December 10 2013 21:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:32 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 21:29 Grackaroni wrote:
you never shut my guess down...


If I played in dessert why would I be using an older game as meta? You guys....

Because they all blend together in your mind! There really aren't many people out there who pretend to be Blazinghand lol.


Blazing hand posts that clip a lot I thought it would be an obvious joke.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:46 GMT
#636
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2013 21:37 Holyflare wrote:
As for spag:


Lack of sleep evolved into fugue.

Spag I killed you last game because we were blue sniping, the reason was that you were posting in a townie style but NOT ENOUGH content to appear too towny. If you want to change your game, now is the time to do it but don't scale back you need to go balls to the wall town play. Weak starts are always always always an issue. We don't know your alignment and your start suggests that you aren't doing anything to persuade us in the positive direction in general. All I've seen is your posts on Slam and that's pretty much it.

You told us you didn't like our posts trying to find out whose smurfing, yet, you provided no alternate direction for us to garner our attention. Why was that?


You say you have plenty of time but why is that? You have no content and you could be a real contender for a lynch.



I was pretty town bro. But it's a non-issue, I stated that wasn't the real reason I'm performing less well.

I've been looking, but nothing has come up strongly. You pressuring me won't change that.

I didn't need to provide an alternate direction, there are already several trains of thought running. I wanted to shut this one down quickly so I did.

I say I have plenty of time? Yes, yes I do. I don't understand the question.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 10 2013 12:49 GMT
#637
On December 10 2013 21:46 Spaghetticus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2013 21:37 Holyflare wrote:
As for spag:


Lack of sleep evolved into fugue.

Spag I killed you last game because we were blue sniping, the reason was that you were posting in a townie style but NOT ENOUGH content to appear too towny. If you want to change your game, now is the time to do it but don't scale back you need to go balls to the wall town play. Weak starts are always always always an issue. We don't know your alignment and your start suggests that you aren't doing anything to persuade us in the positive direction in general. All I've seen is your posts on Slam and that's pretty much it.

You told us you didn't like our posts trying to find out whose smurfing, yet, you provided no alternate direction for us to garner our attention. Why was that?


You say you have plenty of time but why is that? You have no content and you could be a real contender for a lynch.



I was pretty town bro. But it's a non-issue, I stated that wasn't the real reason I'm performing less well.

I've been looking, but nothing has come up strongly. You pressuring me won't change that.

I didn't need to provide an alternate direction, there are already several trains of thought running. I wanted to shut this one down quickly so I did.

I say I have plenty of time? Yes, yes I do. I don't understand the question.


Well you are a reasonable lynch candidate so I wouldn't get too comfortable if you continue to do nothing.

But this is pointless really. Either spag starts doing things or we start thinking about lynching him.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#638
The point is there are several trains of thought currently going but you are pretty much participating in none of them, yet, you expect that it will be fine for us to wait for you to step it up and demonstrate that you are actually town rather than a person whose only contribution so far is to hate on Slam's posts.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#639
On December 10 2013 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +

I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple?

What about Corazon?

What's the purpose of this? If you have read my filter and know who's my vote on you'd know the answers to these questions. Also what do you think of Grackaroni's answer to my case on purple?


Your vote is on purpletrator, so I'd assume you think he's the scummiest. What I meant to say is: what's your opinion on Artanis and Corazon at the moment?

Hmmm. I don't really understand what Grackaroni is saying. Apparently he means to refute your case by saying it's obvious.......... Well, I guess he means that it's just stating the obvious and not much of a case. Weird to randomly point that out though. And why would being obvious make a case "weak", I really wonder.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#640
That's fair.
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