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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2013 23:25 GMT
#284
On December 10 2013 08:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 08:16 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:12 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:04 Spaghetticus wrote:
Slam is actively obfuscating his intentions with spam. I don't like.

Corazon is a candidate for lynch day one, I'm waiting to see how he responds.

I am suspicious of you, but I think that is more a product of you being in the spotlight rather than any real problems I've got with you so far. I will continue to pay attention to your responses.


Hmm, okay. When you say you don't "like", do you mean as in scummy or annoying?

Dunno, Thanatos.

What do you think?


Judging by his vote, probably scummy. But it could be just an empty vote, I guess.

Be not dodging the question as askt

What do you think?


I think you're being suicidal if you're scum, so it's a bit more likely that you're town, but overall somewhat null so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2013 23:29 GMT
#288
On December 10 2013 08:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 08:19 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?


By the way... rayn, what are you doing? I thought you were going to be one of the most contributive players here. I hope it'll get better from here... Otherwise you're probably scum.


dude you need to chillax. it's like hours into the game.


Have you been reading the thread all this time?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2013 23:42 GMT
#301
On December 10 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
ya like i said im lurk strating. have no opinions on anything so dont even bother to ask.


Alright then. If it's going to be like this, I don't want you alive at LYLO. Start doing something or die.

##Vote kushm4sta
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2013 23:51 GMT
#307
On December 10 2013 08:46 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 08:42 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
ya like i said im lurk strating. have no opinions on anything so dont even bother to ask.


Alright then. If it's going to be like this, I don't want you alive at LYLO. Start doing something or die.

##Vote kushm4sta

Can we appeal to the vig(s) to shoot kush and/or slam for us?


I can get behind that. kushm4sta should be the first target, though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2013 23:53 GMT
#308
By the way, purple, your filter is pretty lackluster so far. What have you been doing for all this time? Actively lurking?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2013 23:56 GMT
#310
On December 10 2013 08:55 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 08:53 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, purple, your filter is pretty lackluster so far. What have you been doing for all this time? Actively lurking?

i went to look at LSB's old games, only actually looked at PYP which is still ongoing and decided I'd seen enough to unvote him.


Can you go into specifics?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:01 GMT
#314
On December 10 2013 08:57 Spaghetticus wrote:
Xatalos why should Kush be the first target? At least Kush is honest and not junking up the thread?


Hmm. It probably has something to do with my history of bad experiences with kushm4sta. If Alakaslam keeps this spam up, it might be more beneficial to the discussion to eliminate him first. Both are coin-flips, though, and pretty much policy kills.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:06 GMT
#320
On December 10 2013 09:00 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 08:56 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:55 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:53 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, purple, your filter is pretty lackluster so far. What have you been doing for all this time? Actively lurking?

i went to look at LSB's old games, only actually looked at PYP which is still ongoing and decided I'd seen enough to unvote him.


Can you go into specifics?

He fails to read things properly. I should actually read games where I know his alignment, but I dont see it making a difference tbh.


Hmm. Do you think he fails to read properly generally or in this game in particular? To be honest, I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Explain why LSB was scummy but isn't anymore?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:10 GMT
#322
On December 10 2013 09:00 LSB wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta


What's up with this vote? Pure policy or some other reason?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:17 GMT
#324
On the other hand, I think Corazon is more likely Mafia than kushm4sta. kushm4sta is better suited for a Vigi to handle (I doubt anyone disagrees that he needs to go unless something changes drastically). Same with Alakaslam, it's starting to look like.

##Vote Corazon
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:18 GMT
#326
Actually:

##Unvote
##Vote Corazon
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:25 GMT
#329
On December 10 2013 09:18 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
so toxic.

OK.

I am going to drop the persona for a minute because you all are being kind of disgruntled.

You are all talking about policy lynches as if that is more important than

LYNCHING SCUM.

come on people. I'm doing what I can from the position I am in.

Thank you.

ICE!

People don't like or appeiciate the persona, stop.

It's disruptive as town and disruptive as scum, draws uneccesary suspicion, and clearly disturbs spag.

There's no benefit to it other then your own amusement, and if you shouldn't value your own trolly fun when it disrupts the happiness of others in game.



Any other opinions? That's just stating the obvious.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 00:29 GMT
#331
purple, where did you go? Could you explain perhaps? (see: my earlier post)

I'll be going to sleep soon, but it looks like this day is starting decently. If only kushm4sta and Alakaslam started actually playing...

I'm most interested to see what Corazon is going to do next as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:08 GMT
#600
rayn, my Mafia meta has indeed changed closer to my town meta in recent games. Before, there was a huge difference, but lately it's not that big of a difference. My advice is to focus more on how my game develops from here rather than focusing on the start. As you can see from Dessert, my D1 was relatively the same as my town D1, but it went scummier from there. I've always been active during D1 in recent games (as either alignment), so it's more of a null tell rather than a big town tell.

By the way, I like the fact that you made research on my past games. I think you mentioned that Artanis's early comments on me were similar compared to your negative/distracting comments on me in GoT Mafia. I thought of it more as an attempt to pressure me townishly, but now that I think about it, there are several factors pointing to the other option. Mainly:

1) the inconsistent attitudes towards me/Corazon
2) stopping/distracting me from pursuing my standard aggro for quite some time
3) throwing a vote on me quickly and fading to the background right after that (let town distract itself?)

Artanis, now I'd like you to answer:

1) Seeing as your vote remains on me, do you still think I'm scum? If yes, why?
2) How does your re-examination of Corazon change your view on me?
3) Do you have any other opinions outside of me/Corazon?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:12 GMT
#605
On December 10 2013 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:10 kushm4sta wrote:
@rayne i looked at dessert and it looks like xatalos is acting almost opposite of that.
As scum in dessert his early game was giving reluctant townreads based on blatant antitowniness.

This game he wants to lynch me for antitowniness.

Actually unless i ahve misunderstood something he doesn't.


Well, it's either lynch or shoot. Either one works for me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:21 GMT
#616
On December 10 2013 13:12 purpletrator wrote:
@xata
My initial read of LSB was that he was scum for throwing a shitty vote down and only following up when rayn pointed it out. He said how he never noticed my offer to reveal my identity, which I didnt think was townie mentality. If he'd seen it and just ignored it, then sure whatever hes just trolling. But to neglect to read the guy your voting, when his post was literally 1 above yours? That seemed messed up to me. On reading his PYP filter he does similar things where he misses key points in peoples posts. I dont want to go into detail because that game is ongoing.


Hmmm. Really... It's pretty weak to accuse someone of being scum and backtracking like that for no clear reason. Meta is meta, but what do you think of him in this game? Or other players for that matter?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:39 GMT
#630
On December 10 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's drop this since it's not leading into anything that can certainly be judged into a way or another (unless someone disagrees).

Grackaroni and Xatalos comments on my case on purple?
Spaghetticus i second Plutarch. In LXIII you were quite clearly town from your posting on D1. I don't see even a shoadow from that towninees here. What are you doing?


Well, I think it's not fruitless to investigate my meta. I'm just saying that it's much more useful to compare my later days to my meta than my D1 (since my current meta is to be aggro on D1 as either alignment, although I'm sure there are some smaller differences). My proactive town meta / lurky Mafia meta tend to become clearer later on (although naturally I try to suppress it as Mafia, it gets harder as time goes on).

I agree with your points on purpletrator (if you looked at my filter, you'd see that I questioned him for almost the same things). His play has been weak and aimless so far. He is a decent lynch candidate for sure.

I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple?

What about Corazon?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#639
On December 10 2013 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +

I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple?

What about Corazon?

What's the purpose of this? If you have read my filter and know who's my vote on you'd know the answers to these questions. Also what do you think of Grackaroni's answer to my case on purple?


Your vote is on purpletrator, so I'd assume you think he's the scummiest. What I meant to say is: what's your opinion on Artanis and Corazon at the moment?

Hmmm. I don't really understand what Grackaroni is saying. Apparently he means to refute your case by saying it's obvious.......... Well, I guess he means that it's just stating the obvious and not much of a case. Weird to randomly point that out though. And why would being obvious make a case "weak", I really wonder.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 13:00 GMT
#651
On December 10 2013 21:55 Plutarch wrote:
Is it wrong to be paranoid about scum rayne right now?


Well, I think he's certainly being more productive than he was in GoT Mafia (as Mafia). There he was mostly just distracting and hindering the discussion. I guess his string of posts about my meta is a bit like that, but there are also valid points in that (unlike most of what he talked/spammed about in GoT).

I'm still slightly paranoid after GoT, though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 10 2013 13:05 GMT
#656
On December 10 2013 22:02 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple?

What about Corazon?

What's the purpose of this? If you have read my filter and know who's my vote on you'd know the answers to these questions. Also what do you think of Grackaroni's answer to my case on purple?


Your vote is on purpletrator, so I'd assume you think he's the scummiest. What I meant to say is: what's your opinion on Artanis and Corazon at the moment?

Hmmm. I don't really understand what Grackaroni is saying. Apparently he means to refute your case by saying it's obvious.......... Well, I guess he means that it's just stating the obvious and not much of a case. Weird to randomly point that out though. And why would being obvious make a case "weak", I really wonder.

My thoughts on Artanis have not really changed since i last posted them (after the "i don't like him" post).
I agree with what Plutarch said about Corazon as i said, i don't think anything else in his posting is scummy.

Grackaroni basically does not even address my case because it's not about if purple is clueless or not. That's scummy as hell.

That is the entirety of your case. You said he had a shitty reason for a vote/unvote. He thinks that LSB not reading his comment somehow makes LSB scum and that LSB wanting him to reveal his identity is scummy. I agree that his vote is stupid. That is all that you have shown. dumb does not always equal scum.


Do you think a weird vote+unvote is more telling of being town or scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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