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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 12 2013 21:21 GMT
#1666
On December 13 2013 06:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 06:19 LSB wrote:
Can the vig claim?

Can you read?

Oh I see
Well that solves the Corazon issue.
##Vote: Sidesprang
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 12 2013 21:42 GMT
#1682
On December 13 2013 06:36 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 06:21 LSB wrote:
On December 13 2013 06:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 13 2013 06:19 LSB wrote:
Can the vig claim?

Can you read?

Oh I see
Well that solves the Corazon issue.
##Vote: Sidesprang


Do you have anything else in your mind besides tunneling sidesprang?

I can tunnel purp too
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 12 2013 21:46 GMT
#1686
Yeah I can't even pretend to be able to read VA with all this flame going on. I think we honestly should just go onto a different topic until the parties involved can think clearly. Giant flame arguments do nothing for the town
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:13 GMT
#1808
First off, why are we still discussing Corazon at this point? Until someone countercalims vig he is confirmed town.

I won't be on later tonight, but I will be on right now. But can people stop blaming me for not going after bad lynches? There is a reason why I don't want to lynch Corazon, VA (and to some degree spag).
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:22 GMT
#1813
On December 14 2013 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 03:13 LSB wrote:
First off, why are we still discussing Corazon at this point? Until someone countercalims vig he is confirmed town.

I won't be on later tonight, but I will be on right now. But can people stop blaming me for not going after bad lynches? There is a reason why I don't want to lynch Corazon, VA (and to some degree spag).


Your lynch of preference is sidesprang? Why is he the top #1 scummy player atm? You never even really pushed his lynch.

I thought you read my filter
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:35 GMT
#1822
Your point is?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:48 GMT
#1832
##Pushpost

Why you should vote purpletrator
Purpletrator really only has two important posts in his filter that means something. One is on me, the other is on Corazon.

1) Winner of the most rediculous reaction award.
On December 10 2013 07:33 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?

You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"?
To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy.
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:18 LSB wrote:
Missed this post

On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Ya, sure. Reveal please!

It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch.

##Vote: LSB

In response to some spam purpletraitor suddenly pulls out a full blow case and goes all defensive. Someone is quite edgy and quick to try to convince everyone that he is town. Paranoia is a good indicator of mafia alignment to me

2) Corazon Lynch
This is probably the most arbitrary vote I have seen for quite a while.
On December 12 2013 03:03 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:00 Corazon wrote:
To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne

It was me, and it was because you'd mentioned it then said you'd make a case on Xata:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 09:55 Corazon wrote:
I caught up to the thread and took notes. I must go for an hour and then I will be back with Xatalos case.

I find it incredibly odd that Xata isnt in your notes

On December 12 2013 03:16 purpletrator wrote:
Vote: Corazon
This notes debacle is alarming

He votes Corazon because he didn't take notes on Xata? I want you to take a step back and think about how ridiculous this is. Not only was there no mention about not taking notes on Xata, in addition if you were taking notes of the first few pages it would be impossible to ignore Xata.

This seems like a standardard bandwagon vote although not as explicitly bandwagony as
On December 12 2013 05:39 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote:
can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me.

This is where I'm at right now.

Heavily swayed by
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote:
I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell.

I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened.

I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest.

When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this.

Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip.

Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed.

Spag is Scum.

Please lynch spag.


purpletrator demonstrates he is willing to lynch someone who is under heavy suspicion for little or no foresight. Compare this to his analysis here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&currentpage=57#1132 Purpletrator is not incapable of making good analysis.

##VOTE: purpletrator
BONUS: Something funny from the other smurf
On December 10 2013 06:19 Plutarch wrote:
I appreciate a refresher in the reasoning behind policy lynching lurkers corazon, but that doesn't really add anything valuable to the conversation that anyone here wouldn't know already does it?

For the record, I always prefer lynching scum to lynching coin-flips, thus I will be hard on people who get in my way when I try to do so.

And then suddenly a few posts later
On December 10 2013 13:24 Plutarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 13:19 Corazon wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:12 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:02 Corazon wrote:
@Plutarch:

Jumping around your vote can be a town thing if you are justifying your votes and your reads, but Xatalos is just jumping around and harping on people for nothing and with no purpose other than to look like he is scum hunting.

Case in point:
On December 10 2013 08:19 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?


By the way... rayn, what are you doing? I thought you were going to be one of the most contributive players here. I hope it'll get better from here... Otherwise you're probably scum.

What is the point of this post? Does he think Rayn is scummy because he sleeps? There's no purpose to this post. It's not scum hunting. It's calling out Rayn for sleeping. How does this help us find scum?

Also, there is the point that townies believe in their reads and scum don't. If Xatalos believed I was scum, wouldn't he continue to pressure me and push for my lynch? Why does he insist on attacking kush for being kush and attacking Rayn for sleeping? Do you see any purpose to these posts? Is Xatalos trying to find a lynch? In my opinion, he isn't and that's why I voted for him.


I viewed those things as throwaway comments that people often make day one in order to set expectations for behavior and contribution. I think you are reading far too much into early day one pressure votes.

If the game had progressed further then of course I would expect a more concerted push behind a vote but in the context of the game state as it stands I don't believe his votes have been particularly scummy. In fact I think he is more likely to be town than scum at this point.

I am just trying to determine if you actually believe in the reasoning behind your xatalos push or if this is simply posturing, because at this point the case is not very strong at all.

I would like to bring something up from earlier though. If you're activity was going to be fine regardless why did you feel
the need to post that you were going to be inactive? And more importantly why did you not post this before roles had been sent out?

Please tell me where I explicitly said I was going to be "inactive"


Don't be bad please. We both know what I meant by that. What is the purpose of stating one stupidly semantic sentence in response to a constructive post?

##vote: corazon

I expect better from you.

LOL. Oh well, values were nice but once I am pissed lets throw them away

PS: If you go after sidesprang I'd be willing to bandwagon
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#1833
On December 14 2013 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 03:38 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, that has to be it. I can't comprehend LSB playing like this as town.

LSB just played a PYP game where he had literally no reads and all he talked about was mass claim until he got lynched. He was town, so what he has done in this game is 100x more than his 10 page filter in PYP.

If JB flips scum I want you to post "LSB just played a PYP game where he literally fingered da mafia and until he got lynched by da mafia"
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:51 GMT
#1835
On December 14 2013 03:50 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 03:48 LSB wrote:
##Pushpost

Why you should vote purpletrator
Purpletrator really only has two important posts in his filter that means something. One is on me, the other is on Corazon.

1) Winner of the most rediculous reaction award.
On December 10 2013 07:33 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?

You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"?
To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy.
On December 10 2013 07:18 LSB wrote:
Missed this post

On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Ya, sure. Reveal please!

It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch.

##Vote: LSB

In response to some spam purpletraitor suddenly pulls out a full blow case and goes all defensive. Someone is quite edgy and quick to try to convince everyone that he is town. Paranoia is a good indicator of mafia alignment to me

2) Corazon Lynch
This is probably the most arbitrary vote I have seen for quite a while.
On December 12 2013 03:03 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:00 Corazon wrote:
To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne

It was me, and it was because you'd mentioned it then said you'd make a case on Xata:
On December 10 2013 09:55 Corazon wrote:
I caught up to the thread and took notes. I must go for an hour and then I will be back with Xatalos case.

I find it incredibly odd that Xata isnt in your notes

On December 12 2013 03:16 purpletrator wrote:
Vote: Corazon
This notes debacle is alarming

He votes Corazon because he didn't take notes on Xata? I want you to take a step back and think about how ridiculous this is. Not only was there no mention about not taking notes on Xata, in addition if you were taking notes of the first few pages it would be impossible to ignore Xata.

This seems like a standardard bandwagon vote although not as explicitly bandwagony as
On December 12 2013 05:39 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote:
can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me.

This is where I'm at right now.

Heavily swayed by
On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote:
I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell.

I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened.

I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest.

When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this.

Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip.

Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed.

Spag is Scum.

Please lynch spag.


purpletrator demonstrates he is willing to lynch someone who is under heavy suspicion for little or no foresight. Compare this to his analysis here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&currentpage=57#1132 Purpletrator is not incapable of making good analysis.

##VOTE: purpletrator
BONUS: Something funny from the other smurf
On December 10 2013 06:19 Plutarch wrote:
I appreciate a refresher in the reasoning behind policy lynching lurkers corazon, but that doesn't really add anything valuable to the conversation that anyone here wouldn't know already does it?

For the record, I always prefer lynching scum to lynching coin-flips, thus I will be hard on people who get in my way when I try to do so.

And then suddenly a few posts later
On December 10 2013 13:24 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:19 Corazon wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:12 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:02 Corazon wrote:
@Plutarch:

Jumping around your vote can be a town thing if you are justifying your votes and your reads, but Xatalos is just jumping around and harping on people for nothing and with no purpose other than to look like he is scum hunting.

Case in point:
On December 10 2013 08:19 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?


By the way... rayn, what are you doing? I thought you were going to be one of the most contributive players here. I hope it'll get better from here... Otherwise you're probably scum.

What is the point of this post? Does he think Rayn is scummy because he sleeps? There's no purpose to this post. It's not scum hunting. It's calling out Rayn for sleeping. How does this help us find scum?

Also, there is the point that townies believe in their reads and scum don't. If Xatalos believed I was scum, wouldn't he continue to pressure me and push for my lynch? Why does he insist on attacking kush for being kush and attacking Rayn for sleeping? Do you see any purpose to these posts? Is Xatalos trying to find a lynch? In my opinion, he isn't and that's why I voted for him.


I viewed those things as throwaway comments that people often make day one in order to set expectations for behavior and contribution. I think you are reading far too much into early day one pressure votes.

If the game had progressed further then of course I would expect a more concerted push behind a vote but in the context of the game state as it stands I don't believe his votes have been particularly scummy. In fact I think he is more likely to be town than scum at this point.

I am just trying to determine if you actually believe in the reasoning behind your xatalos push or if this is simply posturing, because at this point the case is not very strong at all.

I would like to bring something up from earlier though. If you're activity was going to be fine regardless why did you feel
the need to post that you were going to be inactive? And more importantly why did you not post this before roles had been sent out?

Please tell me where I explicitly said I was going to be "inactive"


Don't be bad please. We both know what I meant by that. What is the purpose of stating one stupidly semantic sentence in response to a constructive post?

##vote: corazon

I expect better from you.

LOL. Oh well, values were nice but once I am pissed lets throw them away

PS: If you go after sidesprang I'd be willing to bandwagon


Why have you been voting sidesprang all game if purple is your top scumread?

WTF is this bullshit about "Top scumreads"?

There are people I think are scum, and there are people I think are town. And there are people I don't know.

I vote for scum and I don't vote for town
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:53 GMT
#1836
I can't tell if you think you are contributing to the town by asking pointless questions. Or if you don't have a case on me and want to ask questions until you find a "slip" and suddenly make a case off of that
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:55 GMT
#1840
On December 14 2013 03:53 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 03:51 LSB wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:50 Xatalos wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:48 LSB wrote:
##Pushpost

Why you should vote purpletrator
Purpletrator really only has two important posts in his filter that means something. One is on me, the other is on Corazon.

1) Winner of the most rediculous reaction award.
On December 10 2013 07:33 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?

You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"?
To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy.
On December 10 2013 07:18 LSB wrote:
Missed this post

On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Ya, sure. Reveal please!

It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch.

##Vote: LSB

In response to some spam purpletraitor suddenly pulls out a full blow case and goes all defensive. Someone is quite edgy and quick to try to convince everyone that he is town. Paranoia is a good indicator of mafia alignment to me

2) Corazon Lynch
This is probably the most arbitrary vote I have seen for quite a while.
On December 12 2013 03:03 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:00 Corazon wrote:
To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne

It was me, and it was because you'd mentioned it then said you'd make a case on Xata:
On December 10 2013 09:55 Corazon wrote:
I caught up to the thread and took notes. I must go for an hour and then I will be back with Xatalos case.

I find it incredibly odd that Xata isnt in your notes

On December 12 2013 03:16 purpletrator wrote:
Vote: Corazon
This notes debacle is alarming

He votes Corazon because he didn't take notes on Xata? I want you to take a step back and think about how ridiculous this is. Not only was there no mention about not taking notes on Xata, in addition if you were taking notes of the first few pages it would be impossible to ignore Xata.

This seems like a standardard bandwagon vote although not as explicitly bandwagony as
On December 12 2013 05:39 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote:
can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me.

This is where I'm at right now.

Heavily swayed by
On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote:
I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell.

I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened.

I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest.

When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this.

Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip.

Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed.

Spag is Scum.

Please lynch spag.


purpletrator demonstrates he is willing to lynch someone who is under heavy suspicion for little or no foresight. Compare this to his analysis here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&currentpage=57#1132 Purpletrator is not incapable of making good analysis.

##VOTE: purpletrator
BONUS: Something funny from the other smurf
On December 10 2013 06:19 Plutarch wrote:
I appreciate a refresher in the reasoning behind policy lynching lurkers corazon, but that doesn't really add anything valuable to the conversation that anyone here wouldn't know already does it?

For the record, I always prefer lynching scum to lynching coin-flips, thus I will be hard on people who get in my way when I try to do so.

And then suddenly a few posts later
On December 10 2013 13:24 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:19 Corazon wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:12 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:02 Corazon wrote:
@Plutarch:

Jumping around your vote can be a town thing if you are justifying your votes and your reads, but Xatalos is just jumping around and harping on people for nothing and with no purpose other than to look like he is scum hunting.

Case in point:
On December 10 2013 08:19 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?


By the way... rayn, what are you doing? I thought you were going to be one of the most contributive players here. I hope it'll get better from here... Otherwise you're probably scum.

What is the point of this post? Does he think Rayn is scummy because he sleeps? There's no purpose to this post. It's not scum hunting. It's calling out Rayn for sleeping. How does this help us find scum?

Also, there is the point that townies believe in their reads and scum don't. If Xatalos believed I was scum, wouldn't he continue to pressure me and push for my lynch? Why does he insist on attacking kush for being kush and attacking Rayn for sleeping? Do you see any purpose to these posts? Is Xatalos trying to find a lynch? In my opinion, he isn't and that's why I voted for him.


I viewed those things as throwaway comments that people often make day one in order to set expectations for behavior and contribution. I think you are reading far too much into early day one pressure votes.

If the game had progressed further then of course I would expect a more concerted push behind a vote but in the context of the game state as it stands I don't believe his votes have been particularly scummy. In fact I think he is more likely to be town than scum at this point.

I am just trying to determine if you actually believe in the reasoning behind your xatalos push or if this is simply posturing, because at this point the case is not very strong at all.

I would like to bring something up from earlier though. If you're activity was going to be fine regardless why did you feel
the need to post that you were going to be inactive? And more importantly why did you not post this before roles had been sent out?

Please tell me where I explicitly said I was going to be "inactive"


Don't be bad please. We both know what I meant by that. What is the purpose of stating one stupidly semantic sentence in response to a constructive post?

##vote: corazon

I expect better from you.

LOL. Oh well, values were nice but once I am pissed lets throw them away

PS: If you go after sidesprang I'd be willing to bandwagon


Why have you been voting sidesprang all game if purple is your top scumread?

WTF is this bullshit about "Top scumreads"?

There are people I think are scum, and there are people I think are town. And there are people I don't know.

I vote for scum and I don't vote for town

We are in disagreement. Since I am bored, tell me if you think Holyflares final post confirms Plutarch as town?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you clarify for me please?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 18:57 GMT
#1842
On December 14 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 03:49 LSB wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:38 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, that has to be it. I can't comprehend LSB playing like this as town.

LSB just played a PYP game where he had literally no reads and all he talked about was mass claim until he got lynched. He was town, so what he has done in this game is 100x more than his 10 page filter in PYP.

If JB flips scum I want you to post "LSB just played a PYP game where he literally fingered da mafia and until he got lynched by da mafia"

I'm sorry i misrepresented your play. That was not intentional. I didn't mean to say you were wrong, i meant to say you didn't really explain your reads at all and in my opinion your play in this game has been definitely more pro-town than it was in PYP game. Being right =/= good play if noone listens to you.

Lolol I know. That's why I prefer PM games. Much easier to get people to listen to you there
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 19:04 GMT
#1846
On December 14 2013 04:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 03:57 LSB wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:49 LSB wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 14 2013 03:38 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, that has to be it. I can't comprehend LSB playing like this as town.

LSB just played a PYP game where he had literally no reads and all he talked about was mass claim until he got lynched. He was town, so what he has done in this game is 100x more than his 10 page filter in PYP.

If JB flips scum I want you to post "LSB just played a PYP game where he literally fingered da mafia and until he got lynched by da mafia"

I'm sorry i misrepresented your play. That was not intentional. I didn't mean to say you were wrong, i meant to say you didn't really explain your reads at all and in my opinion your play in this game has been definitely more pro-town than it was in PYP game. Being right =/= good play if noone listens to you.

Lolol I know. That's why I prefer PM games. Much easier to get people to listen to you there


Are you willing to join the Artanis wagon? Let's get this done with.

God no. He actually backed off when I told you guys to cool down. I'd rather focus on something a little less emotion ladened. We can revisit it day 3.

However as people have noted, I always consolidate my votes and should it be a decision between Artanis/You I will go through your filters and do a read then.

I want to reiterate that the accuracy of a lynch in a heated argument is pretty low. Hopefully night actions can solve it
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 19:07 GMT
#1849
On December 14 2013 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LSB there are other things that make me think Artanis is scum besides the argument with Xatalos.

Link to pushpost(s) please?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 19:13 GMT
#1852
On December 14 2013 04:12 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend.

Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy

Gee, I wonder who Holyflare
(Holyflare the Medic has been shot by an ass-bullet!)
decided to protect. Hmmmmmmmm lets all think really really hard about this now guys. I wonder. Who could it be?


LMAO
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 19:13 GMT
#1853
Are you BM's smurf?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 19:14 GMT
#1856
Because if you are I actually need to take my vote off of you
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 13 2013 19:21 GMT
#1864
Gauis, I know you love information lynches.

Think, if we shoot purple and he flips red, we know that Plutarch is town due to ez scumslip.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 14 2013 16:38 GMT
#2060
Come back to game, suddenly I'm being lynched.

Anyways ray, at this point its either me or VA. Gotta make your decision now. Would greatly prefer a different lynch by alas, no one has been working on serious reads

##unvote
##Vote: VayneAuthority
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 14 2013 22:50 GMT
#2326
a little confused why I'm not dead, but I'm happy to see I was right about purple
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