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On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote:
Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble.
No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad.
A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do)
Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do)
and the results after it. (which you didn't do)
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Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down.
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On December 18 2013 03:29 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 02:20 Plutarch wrote:
You all got caught. you are trying some power play or something. there is no way when it comes down to your word against mine are we lynching me first.
So as I said. We lynch Xatalos first. Then we lynch you tomorrow and prove you are the liar that you are. Gee, I wonder why you want to lynch Xat and not Grack first.
Because he claimed scum and Is the consensus lynch you plebeian.
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On December 18 2013 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:27 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote:
Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble. No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad. A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do) Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do) and the results after it. (which you didn't do) Well we just have different opinions on this. I don't feel like I need to make myself obvious as cop to outargue scum. If you want to use that against me that is your prerogative
Crumbs don't need to be obvious. They just need to exist in a way which cannot be faked. all yours were easily faked.
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On December 18 2013 03:31 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote:
Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. There was absolutely no way that lynch was pushed by town. There was no reasoning for lynching Purple. I think that is becoming more and more clear from the flips so far this game. I thought about checking Xata and checked you instead. You weren't scum though you were SK.
So there is absolutely no way that the first scum wagon was pushed by town? right.
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OK. so JJD and grack are both claiming scum with this push on me. If I die lynch them both. If I somehow get lynched. Lynch them both. Then we still have the real cop to find the SK.
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On December 18 2013 03:33 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:31 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:27 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote:
Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble. No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad. A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do) Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do) and the results after it. (which you didn't do) Well we just have different opinions on this. I don't feel like I need to make myself obvious as cop to outargue scum. If you want to use that against me that is your prerogative Crumbs don't need to be obvious. They just need to exist in a way which cannot be faked. all yours were easily faked. i told you already. I have never been cop before. Look in any of my past games scum or town and you will not find me ever having a town tell on a specific player that I won't reveal which is deterring me from lynching him
That doesn't stop you from being a liar with this claim. Which you are.
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On December 18 2013 03:34 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:32 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:31 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote:
Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. There was absolutely no way that lynch was pushed by town. There was no reasoning for lynching Purple. I think that is becoming more and more clear from the flips so far this game. I thought about checking Xata and checked you instead. You weren't scum though you were SK. So there is absolutely no way that the first scum wagon was pushed by town? right. If it makes sense then it is pushed by town. There was no reasoning for him being scum and he got killed without my help. That wagon is pushed by scum.
OK you are clearly an idiot.
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No. The cop should not claim. Just lynch grack cause he is a liar and scum. if he flips town I will lynch myself.
The cop should claim when they are ready or have anything to report. we still have 1 lynch to play with.
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Also you are a caught scum. and I don't make deals with scum. Tell Grack it was a terrible idea to try and trade one for one with me and just gives me another day to continue tearing the scum team a new one.
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On December 18 2013 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:41 Plutarch wrote:
No. The cop should not claim. Just lynch grack cause he is a liar and scum. if he flips town I will lynch myself.
The cop should claim when they are ready or have anything to report. we still have 1 lynch to play with. herp derp. I am actually the crab and don't want people to question why no other cop has claimed. I will probably claim that Grack is VT the next day and find somebody I want to lynch more than him.
Nope. I will not rest until you are a corpse.
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On December 18 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:35 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:34 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:32 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:31 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote:
Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. There was absolutely no way that lynch was pushed by town. There was no reasoning for lynching Purple. I think that is becoming more and more clear from the flips so far this game. I thought about checking Xata and checked you instead. You weren't scum though you were SK. So there is absolutely no way that the first scum wagon was pushed by town? right. If it makes sense then it is pushed by town. There was no reasoning for him being scum and he got killed without my help. That wagon is pushed by scum. OK you are clearly an idiot. Scum won Time to DIe just from bussing one player. We lynched everybody against the wagon because people followed your logic that scum wouldn't bus. Who's Plutarch and how do you know it?
I didn't even play in that game and I can prove it if I claim my real identity.
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On December 18 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have given my opinion, i don't think anyone should cc you if they are the real cop and i don't think anything should be done about the situation today. If Plutach is supersoft there is something wrong in the world and in this game.
LOL. I honestly thought you would have figured it out by now.
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On December 18 2013 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:How can you EVER agree with me on a lynch. srsly dude why don't we do this sorta scumhunting every game? 
You know who I am?
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Man some of these guesses are insulting.
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Sigh. I guess I am not very memorable.
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On December 18 2013 03:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Tell us Plutarch
Admit you are scum and a liar and then I will.
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I'll let you know that I am known for being able to argue forever. I once made scum concede just at the prospect of me tunneling them for three cycles. It is about to happen to you. I hope you have a change of underwear.
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On December 18 2013 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
haha.. tbh Plutarch i have a good guess but i don't really care since i figured out you are not scum.
 who do you guess? You not caring breaks my heart.
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