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what made people scared to lynch LSB? all he did was come back and say oh guess ill vote vayne so i dont die. ???
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Yeah Artanis you are right, xigxag actually has quite decent posts. While his playstyle is kinda weird i don't think it makes him scum.
Let's kill purple so i can be "first case on scum" in 6/6 last games i've played. 
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Can we not lynch Xatalos instead? Pretty please? 
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It looks like there is a decent amount of support for Xata lynch. Let's make it happen.
##Vote: Xatalos
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Why is everyone thinking purple is scummy but noone wants to lynch him?
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On December 10 2013 08:46 purpletrator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 08:42 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
ya like i said im lurk strating. have no opinions on anything so dont even bother to ask.
Alright then. If it's going to be like this, I don't want you alive at LYLO. Start doing something or die. ##Vote kushm4sta Can we appeal to the vig(s) to shoot kush and/or slam for us?
On December 12 2013 03:11 purpletrator wrote:
Slam are you around? I dont want to lynch you but your absence is not helping if you are town.
I'm so selfish.
Anyway regarding me I don't like this, it's like he wants us vigged and yet knows I'm town. Harping on abscence which is not alway in my control- Blazinghand will drink his oolong tea (for dinner) all day to prove this point if need be.
He should have wanted me lynched or not rather than directing blue roles. Not that blue listened but see motive.
Actually the vig calls on Kush and I will interest me. I may go read day 1 again.
Back to purple's filter.
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Hey vayne could you vote for purple. I am pretty sure he is scum.
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On December 15 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone thinking purple is scummy but noone wants to lynch him?
I haven't concluded that yet, so far. I may vote him but doesn't look like it'll happen in an hour does it?
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On December 15 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone thinking purple is scummy but noone wants to lynch him?
I'd be happy to lynch him. I just want to lynch Xatalos more. Going through his filter right now though. He said this to Corazon:
You are "confirmed" town. There has been no counterclaim. You have the greatest motive to have shot HolyFlare, you claim to have done it and an "ass-bullet" has been reported. All these things point to you being confirmed town. Despite all this, Plutarch is STILL townier than you are, and he's only semi-confirmed.
This makes no sense. You can't be townier than confirmed town. I share his townread on Plutarch, but his absolute certainty is alarming. I remembered that Xigxag made a post regarding a town read on Purple, but after actually reading through the case it suggests scum more than town to me.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 13 2013 07:07 xigxag wrote:Barney the purple dinosaurShow nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:33 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf? Worst post in thread. ##Vote: purpletrator Kusplain? Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote. Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow. Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok? You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"? To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy. On December 10 2013 07:18 LSB wrote:Missed this post On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf? Ya, sure. Reveal please! It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch. ##Vote: LSB Barney's inability to recognize the joke in LSB's post worries me. The self conscious way he reacts to an early throw away vote suggests scum to me. No townie reads LSB's post and thinks "oh no! He is going to lynch me for being a smurf! Must OMGus!" Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:37 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 07:29 LSB wrote:Btw for those of you who claim that every game I don't have a plan in I'm a scum, here's a plan Notice this post On December 10 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
As the OP states "possible roles";
Is every role guaranteed to be in a game?
Can there be more than 1 of any role?
Is the SK guaranteed to be in the game? Notice the lack of millers. This setup is vulnerable to the follow the DT plan where the DT claims and the medics heal him every night. Since flips are open, we just need to make sure we don't accidentally lynch our DT and medic and hypothetically speaking we will have a massive advantage later on in this game where follow the DT shines. Btw DT/Medic plz don't claim. Unless you are about to be lynched. Jim Raynor (Roleblocker)
-You're not a Zerg, but you sure as hell hate the UED. Or actually you don't, but Kerrigan is a master at pussywhipping, so you just tag along with her shenanigans and think (because you're told to) you hate the UED.
Once per night you can silence a player since you're human looking enough to convince them to put the gun/medicgun/magnifying glass down. [/plan] If we lynch a roleblocker we can look at playing follow the cop I guess I do really like this post in some ways while I don't like it in others. bullet points good things: 1 shutting down bad plans 2 simplicity, doesn't try to grab town cred with this post bad things: 1. shuts down a plan based on a possible scum role 2. is very aware of scum PRs. Barney is either well versed in OP reading or is scum. Your guess is as good as mine. Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 08:46 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 08:42 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
ya like i said im lurk strating. have no opinions on anything so dont even bother to ask.
Alright then. If it's going to be like this, I don't want you alive at LYLO. Start doing something or die. ##Vote kushm4sta Can we appeal to the vig(s) to shoot kush and/or slam for us? missed this on my first read through. I hate hate hate hate hate hate this play. Vigis are better than this. I'd think. Though I'd prefer either of the above players be gone over our doc. Whatever. Without solid reasons for either why they are scum or why town is better off without them all Barney does is try to direct town KP towards, probable, townies over it being directed at scum. Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 08:55 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 08:53 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, purple, your filter is pretty lackluster so far. What have you been doing for all this time? Actively lurking? i went to look at LSB's old games, only actually looked at PYP which is still ongoing and decided I'd seen enough to unvote him. What the shit is this? Why look at a game from an un-flipped player? Reading alignments from that game is totally useless unless the player is dead in said game in which case the read is still tenuous. Why even bring this up in thread? No reason at all. Therefore scummy. Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 13:47 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 13:38 Plutarch wrote:On December 10 2013 13:34 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 13:21 Plutarch wrote:Purple I would like you to explain the issue you had with my statement clearly. What is lackluster about stating you would rather lynch scum than lurkers in the context of a conversation about lurker policy? On December 10 2013 06:33 purpletrator wrote:On December 10 2013 06:30 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2013 06:27 purpletrator wrote:
I am a civilian. To my great dismay, my blood is not purple.
Plutarch, what distinguishes "scum" from "coin-flip"? I'd assume he means that lurker = coin-flip. Did you ask merely out of curiosity or for what reason? It was a pretty lackluster statement to make. I want to know if there was any meat to the meaning behind "coin-flip", because its an empty phrase, much like things like WIFOM and scumslip. Empty buzzwords that don't actually find scum but look like you want to find them. It wasnt explicit that you equated coinflip to lurker. It was also a crock of shit in the sense that you cant know with certainty scum vs coinflip. If you want to call it policy, do that. It was pretty clear. I also believe you can know scum with such a high probability that it is almost certain, so it really isn't a crock of shit. Regardless I don't see the point in attacking that post at all. What were you trying to gain from doing so? Well since you understood your own post, of course you wont see a point to attacking it. I think it was fake, I just dont know if it was fake or fake this post! This post says nothing! It accuses while it backtracks. If Barney thought that Plutarch was scum he could act on that. If he thought Plu was town he could act on that. But he does neither. He simply says that the post is a lie. Barney's post is a lie, it has no town motivation. There is no reason to post this except to appear as if you are thinking about the game. The above post is a total waste of space. An IGMEOY with added fluff. Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 02:56 purpletrator wrote:
So kush you wont tell me why you had/have me as town? I do like this post. I like a player who niggles at the little things that don't make sense even when those little things benefit the player. This is a more minor point because it is in relation to Kush and not someone whose opinion would be valued by others but it does provide some suggestion of a townie dinosaur. Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 03:03 purpletrator wrote:On December 12 2013 03:00 Corazon wrote:
To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne It was me, and it was because you'd mentioned it then said you'd make a case on Xata: On December 10 2013 09:55 Corazon wrote:
I caught up to the thread and took notes. I must go for an hour and then I will be back with Xatalos case. I find it incredibly odd that Xata isnt in your notes This too suggests town. An insignificant detail which is being niggled at for all the right reasons. Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 05:18 purpletrator wrote:
cora better have notes....
##Unvote: Corazon
##Vote: Spaghetticus ...I was so ready to say that this dino was a town dino. Now I'm not sure. Although it seems that Cora was no longer a possible lynch. So I can get behind Purple being probably town. so far since I began my reread: VayneCoagpurpletrator Corazon - vig
I will get behind a Purple lynch if a Xatalos lynch is not possible.
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There is like 1/3 of the players around and other people have just dropped their votes on Vayne/LSB.
Why not?
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On December 14 2013 03:24 purpletrator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 03:10 Corazon wrote:
Yeah I'm done playing this game. HF was scummy and all you idiots calling me out for shooting him don't understand what you are talking about.
I'm just gonna vote Xatalos until he dies and then Plutarch. Later. I cannot fathom how angry you must be all the time if you are unable to take a step back and consider that HolyFlare LITERALLY flipped town. He thinks you were scummy. Regardless of how you PERSONALLY felt about his attacks, his actions were TOWNY. END OF DISCUSSION. Now, if you want to explain your choice of shot based on you having a town PM and a scum-read on Holy, thats fine in retrospect. However, for you to continue to claim that Holy was scummy and expect us to believe that in the slightest is ridiculous and you should rethink how you portray yourself to the town from here on. You are "confirmed" town. There has been no counterclaim. You have the greatest motive to have shot HolyFlare, you claim to have done it and an "ass-bullet" has been reported. All these things point to you being confirmed town. Despite all this, Plutarch is STILL townier than you are, and he's only semi-confirmed.
Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I could get behind Artanis lynch. He says i have some information i should not have, does not explain it at all, does not address my case on Plutarch at all, but instead accuses me because of it (i don't even know what the hell). Definitely a good lynch. Then we can lynch Plutarch who makes 2 different reads from same posts. Your case is bad and you should feel bad. You're also scum, so you should feel bad. Nice try rayn. You're probably the only player in the game who could reasonably push Plutarch and not get lynched for it. Except you're going to get lynched for it.. Since no one wants my friendship points, Holyflares last post while alive Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend.
Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy ##Vote: raynpelikoneet
Haha Rayne please remind me how u aren't OMGUSing, no offense I swear
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On December 15 2013 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is like 1/3 of the players around and other people have just dropped their votes on Vayne/LSB.
Why not?
Because blazinghand
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Alakaslam,
On December 15 2013 03:37 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i just wrote a fucking big case on Artanis it took like an hour and then i clicked on X.
FUCK THIS!
Lynch Artanis. He is scum.
1) His reasoning on Xatalos being scum is still the same that on D1. Nothing has changed, he hasn't taken a different approach on getting him lynched while it's clear the D1 won't work (as Xatalos was not lynched on D1). He is not really trying to lynch Xatalos.
2) He calls multiple people scummy or bad and discredits them. Read the last couple of pages in his filter. Me, kush, Grack, Vayne (+ he has the contradicting read on him in the same post). Also his read on Cora changes weirdly in the middle of N1. He has no intention to figure out any of those people's alignment, he just calls them scummy or bad and does not even explain the reasoning behind it. Just look at his filter, people have "extra info" or "are working under scum mindset" but never he explains why.
3) He calls nearly all the Spaghetticus votes bad, but then he hadn't even read how the votes went down and why as he couldn't explain which votes in particularly were bad. Then he just paints them as bad and doesn't look more into them but magically Xatalos' voting behavior ends up in his case. There is no reason Xatalos' vote should have been any more scummy than other "bad votes".
He is not trying to find scum and just calling people scummy or bad left and right and not explaining why.
Definitely mafia. I don't like lynching vayne, i am pretty sure he is town. LSB is a bad lynch too i think, he's playing better than he did in PYP at least post-qualitywise. He is explaining his reads and while the methods are a bit... interesting, i don't think there is anything scummy in it.
Artanis is the best lynch today.
##Vote: Artanis Imma bout ready to do this instead, Let's see what else is said.
Did you get to any conclusions from the reread?
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What's the situation here? I have no idea who has voted who and who's even leading in votes atm.
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On December 15 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone thinking purple is scummy but noone wants to lynch him? Cause there's alot scummier people. I'll vote for purple if it ends up between him and any of (LSB, Art, xigxag). Not sure which horse I'd back between Purple and Xatalos (who I think are both scummy but @ the bottom of my list).
But I'd prefer not to have to make that decision. Vayne is best Lynch, then Kush, then probably sidespring.
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On December 15 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Alakaslam, Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 03:37 Alakaslam wrote:On December 15 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i just wrote a fucking big case on Artanis it took like an hour and then i clicked on X.
FUCK THIS!
Lynch Artanis. He is scum.
1) His reasoning on Xatalos being scum is still the same that on D1. Nothing has changed, he hasn't taken a different approach on getting him lynched while it's clear the D1 won't work (as Xatalos was not lynched on D1). He is not really trying to lynch Xatalos.
2) He calls multiple people scummy or bad and discredits them. Read the last couple of pages in his filter. Me, kush, Grack, Vayne (+ he has the contradicting read on him in the same post). Also his read on Cora changes weirdly in the middle of N1. He has no intention to figure out any of those people's alignment, he just calls them scummy or bad and does not even explain the reasoning behind it. Just look at his filter, people have "extra info" or "are working under scum mindset" but never he explains why.
3) He calls nearly all the Spaghetticus votes bad, but then he hadn't even read how the votes went down and why as he couldn't explain which votes in particularly were bad. Then he just paints them as bad and doesn't look more into them but magically Xatalos' voting behavior ends up in his case. There is no reason Xatalos' vote should have been any more scummy than other "bad votes".
He is not trying to find scum and just calling people scummy or bad left and right and not explaining why.
Definitely mafia. I don't like lynching vayne, i am pretty sure he is town. LSB is a bad lynch too i think, he's playing better than he did in PYP at least post-qualitywise. He is explaining his reads and while the methods are a bit... interesting, i don't think there is anything scummy in it.
Artanis is the best lynch today.
##Vote: Artanis Imma bout ready to do this instead, Let's see what else is said. Did you get to any conclusions from the reread?
Of what you have said so far? What do you mean? What did I reread and why do you think I'm rereading it?
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voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me.
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On December 15 2013 05:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone thinking purple is scummy but noone wants to lynch him? Cause there's alot scummier people. I'll vote for purple if it ends up between him and any of (LSB, Art, xigxag). Not sure which horse I'd back between Purple and Xatalos (who I think are both scummy but @ the bottom of my list). But I'd prefer not to have to make that decision. Vayne is best Lynch, then Kush, then probably sidespring.
Jarjardrinks If it is coming from me does "you are tunneling vayne emotionally" hold any strength?
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On December 15 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Alakaslam, On December 15 2013 03:37 Alakaslam wrote:On December 15 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i just wrote a fucking big case on Artanis it took like an hour and then i clicked on X.
FUCK THIS!
Lynch Artanis. He is scum.
1) His reasoning on Xatalos being scum is still the same that on D1. Nothing has changed, he hasn't taken a different approach on getting him lynched while it's clear the D1 won't work (as Xatalos was not lynched on D1). He is not really trying to lynch Xatalos.
2) He calls multiple people scummy or bad and discredits them. Read the last couple of pages in his filter. Me, kush, Grack, Vayne (+ he has the contradicting read on him in the same post). Also his read on Cora changes weirdly in the middle of N1. He has no intention to figure out any of those people's alignment, he just calls them scummy or bad and does not even explain the reasoning behind it. Just look at his filter, people have "extra info" or "are working under scum mindset" but never he explains why.
3) He calls nearly all the Spaghetticus votes bad, but then he hadn't even read how the votes went down and why as he couldn't explain which votes in particularly were bad. Then he just paints them as bad and doesn't look more into them but magically Xatalos' voting behavior ends up in his case. There is no reason Xatalos' vote should have been any more scummy than other "bad votes".
He is not trying to find scum and just calling people scummy or bad left and right and not explaining why.
Definitely mafia. I don't like lynching vayne, i am pretty sure he is town. LSB is a bad lynch too i think, he's playing better than he did in PYP at least post-qualitywise. He is explaining his reads and while the methods are a bit... interesting, i don't think there is anything scummy in it.
Artanis is the best lynch today.
##Vote: Artanis Imma bout ready to do this instead, Let's see what else is said. Did you get to any conclusions from the reread? Of what you have said so far? What do you mean? What did I reread and why do you think I'm rereading it?
"Imma bout ready to do this instead" suggests action.
"Let's see what else is said." suggests reading.
I was hoping you came to conclusions from said reading and entered action mode from it.
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I'm willing to sheep JJD as well if it comes to Vayne/LSB. I like his case and haven't found anything particularly scummy on LSB.
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