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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 12 2013 01:54 Mig wrote: jcarl why did you recommend super to use his check on jay if you knew you had given him the lantern? I stated that my preference was between gtrsrs and roffles. If Jay thought he was being targeted by supersoft, it might increase his chances of taking the lantern and thus my plan actually doing something useful. Also n2 chez was the only one who died but ticklish took 849 damage. You thought you also somehow took damage? Combination of "I thought something fishy was up with ticklish" and I had forgotten to take this into consideration at the end of D3. But put yourself in my shoes. I had outed myself as a medic D2. Is it not reasonable that between the two nights 2 and 3 I would be killed? I have no idea why I'm still alive, let alone why I haven't taken any damage at all. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Reading up on the QT with Risen. I actually think we should leave him for now and let scum kill him off as he is low and he does have a shield that we can use to save town. Going forward we should direct Risen where to use his shield and we can waste scum KP on it by shielding high priority targets so that they have to ignore the target all together waste a roleblock on Risen. Or simply shooting Risen for us. I find it odd that Risen was so against shielding SS or anyone else for that matter But him and Rayn and that he forgot to do it :/ If Risen doesn't die then we can just kill him off with KP later on if he remains suspicious after we have killed more scummy people. So for lynch lets go between Gtrsrs, Roffles Onegue, and maybe Kush, | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
Jcarl's lantern plan seems somewhat plausible to me I suppose. Seems like kind of a ridiculous plan to make up and lie about as mafia, and for what gain? Apparently SS check went through and saw that jay is indeed a VT so not like mafia was trying to hide jays role. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 12 2013 02:23 kushm4sta wrote: jaybrundage likes jungling hmm? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 12 2013 02:06 jaybrundage wrote: Lol trying to kill me eh Soniv. Sneaky Sneaky. On the bright side you did help me avoid lux's laser :D Reading up on the QT with Risen. I actually think we should leave him for now and let scum kill him off as he is low and he does have a shield that we can use to save town. Going forward we should direct Risen where to use his shield and we can waste scum KP on it by shielding high priority targets so that they have to ignore the target all together waste a roleblock on Risen. Or simply shooting Risen for us. I find it odd that Risen was so against shielding SS or anyone else for that matter But him and Rayn and that he forgot to do it :/ If Risen doesn't die then we can just kill him off with KP later on if he remains suspicious after we have killed more scummy people. So for lynch lets go between Gtrsrs, Roffles Onegue, and maybe Kush, I don't get this. If we think Risen is scum, then we need to lynch him. We don't have the luxury of just waiting him out to see if scum kills him. Your plan is to direct one of our few town powers left so that it's easy for scum to shoot him? Actually, your plan is to literally "let scum kill him off" Now, I haven't decided if I think Risen is scum yet, but quickly skimming the QT, I don't see anything that immediately makes me want to say "yeah we should leave him up so scum can kill him". But I still have trouble with "oops I totally forgot to use the role that me and rayn spent a not insignificant amount of time planning out". What do you see, Jay, that makes you want to leave him up? Also, you likely won't get a fleshed out case today from me (real time today). I have some stuff I need to get done at work by end of day, so I can't spend a whole ton of time posting. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 12 2013 02:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't get this. If we think Risen is scum, then we need to lynch him. We don't have the luxury of just waiting him out to see if scum kills him. Your plan is to direct one of our few town powers left so that it's easy for scum to shoot him? Actually, your plan is to literally "let scum kill him off" Now, I haven't decided if I think Risen is scum yet, but quickly skimming the QT, I don't see anything that immediately makes me want to say "yeah we should leave him up so scum can kill him". But I still have trouble with "oops I totally forgot to use the role that me and rayn spent a not insignificant amount of time planning out". What do you see, Jay, that makes you want to leave him up? Also, you likely won't get a fleshed out case today from me (real time today). I have some stuff I need to get done at work by end of day, so I can't spend a whole ton of time posting. I see him as a scummy lurker. But hey we have alot of those. I'm not so sure of his alignment either way, He gave an uncaring feeling form the QT making him appear as a unengaged townie. However his actions are pretty questionable that after being so psycked to shield and help rayn he just "forgets" to do it I think there is reasons he can both be town and scum so pretty much null maybe even third party. Given that information I think we can save him for his role for now, utilizing his shield for the town to benefit from. I think there are better lynches that I have said multiple times. Gtrsrs, Onegu, Roffles, and Kush. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 12 2013 02:37 Mig wrote: jay what do you think about LSB? You seem to feel his case is terrible why arent you suggesting him as a lynch candidate. I haven't actually looked at LSB much at all. So that's why I don't have much of an opinion on him. What are you thoughts on LSB :o | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Giving the lantern to me WOULD make sense if Koshi was scum (no harm done - jcarl looks townie), but as VE is town why would mafia allow VE to have a check? It's not like jcarl did know VE says "I WILL NOT CLICK THIS THING!". | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On December 12 2013 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think jcarl is mafia because he gave the lantern to VE for N2. It makes no sense as they can't roleblock VE. Giving the lantern to me WOULD make sense if Koshi was scum (no harm done - jcarl looks townie), but as VE is town why would mafia allow VE to have a check? It's not like jcarl did know VE says "I WILL NOT CLICK THIS THING!". ?.? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 11 2013 06:03 Risen wrote: I either 150 split between two or 300 myself. I'm giving myself a 300 shield. I've been shot for a very significant portion of my health thanks to idiots. The only other person in this game I'd even consider shielding is rayn. so you talked about your shield in here, and you "forgot" to send it in? @rayn: and you buy this? i believe risen did something else, since he can't do two things at once! the 25 kp could come from anywhere. even third party isnt off the table. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
another fact is, that he was around at deadline and that he says he forgot it. i think he's a liar and he fits nicely in my scumdreamteam with MZ. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Like he just claims scum when he can claim roleblocked. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
He gives some pseudo-reads on a few people he thinks are scum here and there, but the actual hunting is clearly being done by rayn. It seems like a pretty one-sided discussion. Risen apparently made a "scum slip in thread" early in the masoning, and was concerned about it. I don't know what he said, but his reaction doesn't line up with how I imagine a townie would react. A significant chunk of the entire conversation is based around the logistics for how roles will play out, so I absolutely refuse to believe Risen just forgot. | ||
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