EPTPYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 28
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raynpelikoneet
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geript
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geript
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I just scimmed over the thread to get a idea of what happened since last night. Current thoughts on the last ban should probably go between Twitch, Urgot, or Eve. Urgot and Twitch is pretty scary for the town due to a scum team just sitting back and hitting people with missiles/vemon. Then all the sudden we would end up with stronger townies all being hit at once by expunge, with an increased KP from Urgot. Promptly followed up by whatever else scum pick up. Either of these champions by themselves is really bad for the town. Either one of them lets scum hit townies with abilities and we wouldn't even know about it. We can't ban both but we should definitely get rid of one of them. Eve for obvious reasons. What kind of scum wouldn't enjoy being able to dmg a townie scott free. It's not like you have to worry about traps. Worse ontop of that is it would seem that checks would return VT from her. (This is assuming I'm interpreting the watcher/tracker statement correctly.) | ||
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh yeah i think there is a fair chance that JAT is scum. He made a MQ post, he has never done so as town. That's like picking up posts and calling them out without saying if someone is scum or not, just "good post", "bad post", "bad post" etc etc. Wow, 1) I make posts like this all the time (what does MQ stand for btw?). 2) The goal today (at least for me) is to find the right heroes to ban. I am not primarily looking for scum before we can lynch someone. So, since Evelynn seems unrealistic - Urgot is fine too. ##Unvote ##Vote: Urgot | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
It's along the same lines as Yorick because we're losing information. Someone more experienced explain the why to me. For now I'm not convinced Urgot is our best choice. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
As it's clearly been determined, Yorick is probably the worst for town, that's going. I think there are things more threatening than Graves, tbh, but it looks like that will be #2. ##vote: Urgot I do think Urgot is much more powerful in the hands of teamwork, so definitely harder for town to actually make use of. I think we should also be aware of some of the other funky teamwork things that scum can take advantage of. Say scum has people at opposite ends of the list - one is Blitzcrank and one is Nidalee. Also, Ashe + Warwick could be pretty good in the right circumstances. The ball is already rolling on Urgot, and I do agree he's a good threat to eliminate. rayn's strat for picks has a bit of merit, but as far as I can tell, it hasn't been adopted by the thread community. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On December 01 2013 09:16 JonnyLaw wrote: Urgot is just straight kp. Why is he the best choice when we don't know the second abilities of champions. Without knowing health values or anything I'd rather ban a champ base on abilities that we can quantify. It's along the same lines as Yorick because we're losing information. Someone more experienced explain the why to me. For now I'm not convinced Urgot is our best choice. There is very little use in guessing unknown powers, so we should base our bans in what we know. Speculating other powers is silly. The difference between Urgot and Yorick is pretty massive. In a situation where they have one or the other, Yorick only delays information (at most all, it doesn't give a limit) but he doesn't deny it. Urgot increases all KP, so even minimal increases are usable for mafia to squeeze out a good amount of killing power they wouldn't have with out him. Assuming he doesn't have god awful KP and increase, hes abusable for a team with KP. Information delayed is no where near as bad for town as multiplying KP for mafia. There is a bit of assuming here, but it don't think we are stretching the possibilities here. We can't really have bad bans if we are banning all anti-town roles, and I don't think anyone would consider it scummy if you prefer a certain role over another to ban. It's no where near as important as the draft (ands that's not half as important as scum hunting!) but in every PYP, this part is lengthened nicely so we can afford to durdle with picks and bans before plopping down the wagons. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
I think Urgot has the third slot at this point regardless. | ||
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Korea (South)250 Posts
Caitlyn (1): Mocsta Graves (5): jaybrundage, raynpelikoneet, StorrZerg, Koshi, Kenpachi Ashe (1): ticklishmusic Yorick (9): OdinOfPergo, sandroba, Rean, gtrsrs, supersoft, marvellosity, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, Risen Nocturne (2): Meapak_Zipph, JonnyLaw Twitch (1): Oatsmaster Urgot (5): bumatlarge, Mig, geript, justanothertownie, jcarlsoniv Warwick (1): Kurumi Evelynn (1): justanothertownie Janna (1): BloodyC0bbler Not voted (4): onlywonderboy, Roffles, Bill Murray, nyxnyxnyx Draft and bans end in Remember to vote in the proper format, or your vote does not count. EVERYONE must vote; you may not abstain. Also remember to get those draft numbers in, guys! | ||
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bumatlarge
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
supersoft take this hand. :p | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 01 2013 04:56 gtrsrs wrote: i don't care if it has a good power, i'm not playing viktor cause eff that guy wow you're going down gtr --------------------------------------------- having now caught up - I'm pretty on board to kill rayn whenever it's possible | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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jcarlsoniv
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OdinOfPergo
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