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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2013 19:19 GMT
#4281
Like, how many pages are in the thread does NOT indicate how much actionable content there is in the thread. I don't care what you guys say. With people like Rayn and myself in the game, it was bound to get big, fast. The fact that there are so many content to sit on their laurels and watch townies fight with each other is not just irritating, but makes the game harder as well. Obviously scum aren't going to ALL be lurkers. I have no doubt in my mind that if we start mercilessly lynching lurkers, we're gonna hit a couple townies. But from my perspective, that's a small price for us to pay for some clarity in this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2013 19:20 GMT
#4282
Oh and guys - my second ability is public. Just throwin that out there. You'll know when I cast it. <3
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#4283
On December 07 2013 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gosh Mig, if you think I'm not a lynch candidate then why mention me at all? :O


You shouldnt be a lynch candidate for obvious reasons. If you are town mafia either shoots you or risks you finding them with dt powers. But if you live a long time and you arent finding scum then something is up and town should keep this in mind.

Can you explain why you think lurker lynch is optimal right now instead of actually putting the effort into scum hunting?
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#4284
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#4285
On December 07 2013 04:22 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gosh Mig, if you think I'm not a lynch candidate then why mention me at all? :O


You shouldnt be a lynch candidate for obvious reasons. If you are town mafia either shoots you or risks you finding them with dt powers. But if you live a long time and you arent finding scum then something is up and town should keep this in mind.

Can you explain why you think lurker lynch is optimal right now instead of actually putting the effort into scum hunting?

No one said anything about not scumhunting - I've been trying to find scum all game. I'm just saying that the LYNCH should be LURKERS. I've been saying it all game and I'll repeat it again - we have NO RELIABLE MEANS OF CLEARING THE LURKER POOL. I could check into them, sure. But then I can ask you the same question in reverse - why not be using my power on scummy people to try and find scum? We could use our combined KP on them, but we don't know their HP and we have no way of knowing if/when our actions will have any kind of effect on the NUMBER OF LURKERS we have.

I'm all about trying to find scum - I just want to use the LYNCH, at least for the present, on lurkers.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#4286
Tentatively, I have:
Potential scum team 1: Austin/jaybrunage/jcarlsoniv/supersoft/??
Potential scum team 2: m_z/rean/kush/??/??
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 06 2013 19:25 GMT
#4287
On December 07 2013 04:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
If we assume that either austin or M_Z is scum, it breaks into two scum teams pretty nicely I think.


Oh? And what are these two scum teams?


ticklish, if you don't give an answer to this in the very near future, I'm going to assume you're full of shit

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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2013 19:25 GMT
#4288
On December 07 2013 04:22 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it.

So are you basing this on scum's ability to coordinate their number picks?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 06 2013 19:25 GMT
#4289
duuuuuuucking ninjas
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 06 2013 19:27 GMT
#4290
On December 07 2013 04:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 07 2013 04:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
If we assume that either austin or M_Z is scum, it breaks into two scum teams pretty nicely I think.


Oh? And what are these two scum teams?


ticklish, if you don't give an answer to this in the very near future, I'm going to assume you're full of shit

spoiler alert

+ Show Spoiler +
I already think you're full of shit


y u heff to b mad

ur basically playing how gtr said you would
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 06 2013 19:27 GMT
#4291
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


Why wouldnt you be concerned that I shot you lol. Being shot is something to be concerned over and if I knew who shot me I would be looking into them to see whether they shot me as a townie or scum. You just seem lacksidasical about it all. You cared enough about the game to rage about people playing bad but then just shrug your shoulders at someone claiming to shoot you? Seems weird to me.

What do you think about austin? Who do you plan on voting for?


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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 06 2013 19:28 GMT
#4292
On December 07 2013 04:24 ticklishmusic wrote:
Tentatively, I have:
Potential scum team 1: Austin/jaybrunage/jcarlsoniv/supersoft/??
Potential scum team 2: m_z/rean/kush/??/??


Gonna need a bit more explanation for these, methinks.

Like, why couldn't kush and I be on the same team? He defended me the first time around. Although, he's defended most of the players in the game...so poor example.

Where is the connection for "potential scum team 1"?

What makes you put kush on team 2? I'm assuming you've seen something I missed.

Have you explained a scumread on supersoft?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
December 06 2013 19:29 GMT
#4293
On December 07 2013 04:22 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it.

let's look at the top 12 and who could be scum

jcarl
geript
austin
koshi

All of those could be scum imo
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 06 2013 19:31 GMT
#4294
On December 07 2013 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:22 sandroba wrote:
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it.

So are you basing this on scum's ability to coordinate their number picks?

Yes. Whatever strategy they choose to go with, since they can coordinate their picks and it's in their best interest to get placed high up on the draft list, they are going to be on average placed higher up than the average townie. Given that if it was completely random you would expect on average 3 scum on top 15, I think it's pretty safe to assume that there is a high chance of being 3 scum on top 12.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
December 06 2013 19:32 GMT
#4295
On December 07 2013 04:27 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


Why wouldnt you be concerned that I shot you lol. Being shot is something to be concerned over and if I knew who shot me I would be looking into them to see whether they shot me as a townie or scum. You just seem lacksidasical about it all. You cared enough about the game to rage about people playing bad but then just shrug your shoulders at someone claiming to shoot you? Seems weird to me.

What do you think about austin? Who do you plan on voting for?



So for the record, WoS just told me that if my clone is hit I am not notified.

I think your problem is because I didn't immediately respond you think it's lacksidasical. I was gone for a lot of the day, I missed a lot of the interaction where it came out that I was hit, and I never received a PM saying I was hit. All of this created an atmosphere where your shot didn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

Right now it feels like you want me to call you scum for shooting me which is weird.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 06 2013 19:34 GMT
#4296
jc- possible.
geript- given how forth comming he was with his claim and his overall behavior I find it unlikely
austin- yes
koshi - we are bound to find out eventually

suprises me that you left out JL/risen, people I'm unsure about myself
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 06 2013 19:35 GMT
#4297
On December 07 2013 04:34 sandroba wrote:
jc- possible.
geript- given how forth comming he was with his claim and his overall behavior I find it unlikely
austin- yes
koshi - we are bound to find out eventually

suprises me that you left out JL/risen, people I'm unsure about myself

Yah. Like I really think that's a bad list.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
December 06 2013 19:35 GMT
#4298
On December 07 2013 04:31 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 07 2013 04:22 sandroba wrote:
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.

Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.


MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it.

So are you basing this on scum's ability to coordinate their number picks?

Yes. Whatever strategy they choose to go with, since they can coordinate their picks and it's in their best interest to get placed high up on the draft list, they are going to be on average placed higher up than the average townie. Given that if it was completely random you would expect on average 3 scum on top 15, I think it's pretty safe to assume that there is a high chance of being 3 scum on top 12.

That's a pretty bold assumption, the scummiest people in the thread right now are people who haven't been very active, thus the chance there was actual coordination seems pretty low imo. Also look at past PYP games, scum don't typically do as well as you're suggesting they have to.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
December 06 2013 19:37 GMT
#4299
On December 07 2013 04:34 sandroba wrote:
jc- possible.
geript- given how forth comming he was with his claim and his overall behavior I find it unlikely
austin- yes
koshi - we are bound to find out eventually

suprises me that you left out JL/risen, people I'm unsure about myself

I had jonny as town early on. Completely forgot about risen but put him on that list as well.

Look sandro, that's 5 or six people excluding me and mig who could be scum, I don't see how your theory plays out.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 06 2013 19:37 GMT
#4300
On December 07 2013 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 04:24 ticklishmusic wrote:
Tentatively, I have:
Potential scum team 1: Austin/jaybrunage/jcarlsoniv/supersoft/??
Potential scum team 2: m_z/rean/kush/??/??


Gonna need a bit more explanation for these, methinks.

Like, why couldn't kush and I be on the same team? He defended me the first time around. Although, he's defended most of the players in the game...so poor example.

Where is the connection for "potential scum team 1"?

What makes you put kush on team 2? I'm assuming you've seen something I missed.

Have you explained a scumread on supersoft?


i have a big sheet where i listed out all the players and drew colored arrows to who they defended, who they sheeped, who they accused. it breaks nicely into two bundles with the austin vs m_z assumption.
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