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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Gosh Mig, if you think I'm not a lynch candidate then why mention me at all? :O You shouldnt be a lynch candidate for obvious reasons. If you are town mafia either shoots you or risks you finding them with dt powers. But if you live a long time and you arent finding scum then something is up and town should keep this in mind. Can you explain why you think lurker lynch is optimal right now instead of actually putting the effort into scum hunting? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak. Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum. MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:22 Mig wrote: You shouldnt be a lynch candidate for obvious reasons. If you are town mafia either shoots you or risks you finding them with dt powers. But if you live a long time and you arent finding scum then something is up and town should keep this in mind. Can you explain why you think lurker lynch is optimal right now instead of actually putting the effort into scum hunting? No one said anything about not scumhunting - I've been trying to find scum all game. I'm just saying that the LYNCH should be LURKERS. I've been saying it all game and I'll repeat it again - we have NO RELIABLE MEANS OF CLEARING THE LURKER POOL. I could check into them, sure. But then I can ask you the same question in reverse - why not be using my power on scummy people to try and find scum? We could use our combined KP on them, but we don't know their HP and we have no way of knowing if/when our actions will have any kind of effect on the NUMBER OF LURKERS we have. I'm all about trying to find scum - I just want to use the LYNCH, at least for the present, on lurkers. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Potential scum team 1: Austin/jaybrunage/jcarlsoniv/supersoft/?? Potential scum team 2: m_z/rean/kush/??/?? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:08 jcarlsoniv wrote: Oh? And what are these two scum teams? ticklish, if you don't give an answer to this in the very near future, I'm going to assume you're full of shit spoiler alert + Show Spoiler + I already think you're full of shit | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:22 sandroba wrote: MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it. So are you basing this on scum's ability to coordinate their number picks? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: ticklish, if you don't give an answer to this in the very near future, I'm going to assume you're full of shit spoiler alert + Show Spoiler + I already think you're full of shit y u heff to b mad ur basically playing how gtr said you would  | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak. Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum. Why wouldnt you be concerned that I shot you lol. Being shot is something to be concerned over and if I knew who shot me I would be looking into them to see whether they shot me as a townie or scum. You just seem lacksidasical about it all. You cared enough about the game to rage about people playing bad but then just shrug your shoulders at someone claiming to shoot you? Seems weird to me. What do you think about austin? Who do you plan on voting for? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:24 ticklishmusic wrote: Tentatively, I have: Potential scum team 1: Austin/jaybrunage/jcarlsoniv/supersoft/?? Potential scum team 2: m_z/rean/kush/??/?? Gonna need a bit more explanation for these, methinks. Like, why couldn't kush and I be on the same team? He defended me the first time around. Although, he's defended most of the players in the game...so poor example. Where is the connection for "potential scum team 1"? What makes you put kush on team 2? I'm assuming you've seen something I missed. Have you explained a scumread on supersoft? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:22 sandroba wrote: MZ don't you agree that mafia should be higher up on the list on average? I think my top 12 estimative is pretty mild. Looking at those top 12 who do you find suspicious? It's even better to look at that group right now since 2 townies have already flipped from it. let's look at the top 12 and who could be scum jcarl geript austin koshi All of those could be scum imo | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: So are you basing this on scum's ability to coordinate their number picks? Yes. Whatever strategy they choose to go with, since they can coordinate their picks and it's in their best interest to get placed high up on the draft list, they are going to be on average placed higher up than the average townie. Given that if it was completely random you would expect on average 3 scum on top 15, I think it's pretty safe to assume that there is a high chance of being 3 scum on top 12. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:27 Mig wrote: Why wouldnt you be concerned that I shot you lol. Being shot is something to be concerned over and if I knew who shot me I would be looking into them to see whether they shot me as a townie or scum. You just seem lacksidasical about it all. You cared enough about the game to rage about people playing bad but then just shrug your shoulders at someone claiming to shoot you? Seems weird to me. What do you think about austin? Who do you plan on voting for? So for the record, WoS just told me that if my clone is hit I am not notified. I think your problem is because I didn't immediately respond you think it's lacksidasical. I was gone for a lot of the day, I missed a lot of the interaction where it came out that I was hit, and I never received a PM saying I was hit. All of this created an atmosphere where your shot didn't seem like that big of a deal to me. Right now it feels like you want me to call you scum for shooting me which is weird. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
geript- given how forth comming he was with his claim and his overall behavior I find it unlikely austin- yes koshi - we are bound to find out eventually suprises me that you left out JL/risen, people I'm unsure about myself | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:34 sandroba wrote: jc- possible. geript- given how forth comming he was with his claim and his overall behavior I find it unlikely austin- yes koshi - we are bound to find out eventually suprises me that you left out JL/risen, people I'm unsure about myself Yah. Like I really think that's a bad list. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:31 sandroba wrote: Yes. Whatever strategy they choose to go with, since they can coordinate their picks and it's in their best interest to get placed high up on the draft list, they are going to be on average placed higher up than the average townie. Given that if it was completely random you would expect on average 3 scum on top 15, I think it's pretty safe to assume that there is a high chance of being 3 scum on top 12. That's a pretty bold assumption, the scummiest people in the thread right now are people who haven't been very active, thus the chance there was actual coordination seems pretty low imo. Also look at past PYP games, scum don't typically do as well as you're suggesting they have to. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:34 sandroba wrote: jc- possible. geript- given how forth comming he was with his claim and his overall behavior I find it unlikely austin- yes koshi - we are bound to find out eventually suprises me that you left out JL/risen, people I'm unsure about myself I had jonny as town early on. Completely forgot about risen but put him on that list as well. Look sandro, that's 5 or six people excluding me and mig who could be scum, I don't see how your theory plays out. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 07 2013 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: Gonna need a bit more explanation for these, methinks. Like, why couldn't kush and I be on the same team? He defended me the first time around. Although, he's defended most of the players in the game...so poor example. Where is the connection for "potential scum team 1"? What makes you put kush on team 2? I'm assuming you've seen something I missed. Have you explained a scumread on supersoft? i have a big sheet where i listed out all the players and drew colored arrows to who they defended, who they sheeped, who they accused. it breaks nicely into two bundles with the austin vs m_z assumption. | ||
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