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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
December 05 2013 19:45 GMT
#3561
That would mean, Koshi is unprotected.







or is he?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#3562
On December 06 2013 04:44 Chezinu wrote:
Actually, I know how it could have gone down. I could have visited you after rayn used his powers on you... then somone else could have done something. Then the 50 kp could have done something.

checks happen last as per op
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#3563
On December 06 2013 04:39 Koshi wrote:
jcarlsoniv
if you would read the text above the spoiler you would have known hosts changed it.
LSB
Same to you.

Hence my question if you know exactly what it does

I just want to comment we should take extreme care about Koshi, the item he has made is extremely powerful for a few reasons.

Let's consider the original item

The Person holding the crown can only kill someone of the opposite alignment. This is essentially an overpowered version of Vigilante that gets two tries a night. (Unless he happens to check two mafia). This seems wayy to overpowered, but it does have two drawbacks. 1) In the hands of mafia it can increase their Kill Power 2) In the hands of town it has to be public and thus probably a 1 time use before the item is taken / the person is killed.

What does the host change do to the item: it removes the second drawback and instead makes it a night action. This makes the item even more powerful in the hands of mafia as they will be allowed to use the item with little restrictions, in addition it makes the item repeatable in the hands of town. This makes the item all around more far more powerful and I really hope Koshi is town
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 05 2013 20:01 GMT
#3564
On December 06 2013 02:19 gtrsrs wrote:
can you stop being so negative?
2 people have already thanked me for my league input and i'm going to continue to do it, so you can stop deriding me for it


who thanked you for your league of legends input?? i want to know names.
it's funny that you think you are being helpful and that you think people who don't play lol care about lol.
have you tried dota? it's way better dude.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 05 2013 20:02 GMT
#3565
worst post of the game award goes to kush but it had to be said
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#3566
On December 06 2013 04:52 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 04:39 Koshi wrote:
jcarlsoniv
if you would read the text above the spoiler you would have known hosts changed it.
LSB
Same to you.

Hence my question if you know exactly what it does

I just want to comment we should take extreme care about Koshi, the item he has made is extremely powerful for a few reasons.

Let's consider the original item

The Person holding the crown can only kill someone of the opposite alignment. This is essentially an overpowered version of Vigilante that gets two tries a night. (Unless he happens to check two mafia). This seems wayy to overpowered, but it does have two drawbacks. 1) In the hands of mafia it can increase their Kill Power 2) In the hands of town it has to be public and thus probably a 1 time use before the item is taken / the person is killed.

What does the host change do to the item: it removes the second drawback and instead makes it a night action. This makes the item even more powerful in the hands of mafia as they will be allowed to use the item with little restrictions, in addition it makes the item repeatable in the hands of town. This makes the item all around more far more powerful and I really hope Koshi is town

Well I didn't give it to myself so you don't have to hope I am town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 05 2013 20:13 GMT
#3567
On December 06 2013 05:02 kushm4sta wrote:
worst post of the game award goes to kush but it had to be said

Nha. That last part was really true.
I had a good night of sleep.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#3568
Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it

Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something.
Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night

Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked.
Koshi Took 50 Damage

Something is off here.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 05 2013 20:19 GMT
#3569
On December 06 2013 05:16 LSB wrote:
Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it

Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something.
Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night

Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked.
Koshi Took 50 Damage

Something is off here.

The good news is that I think we should not worry too much about rayn, Chezinu and that cuddly Koshi.

What we want to focus on is Austin, VE and OdinOfPergo.
I had a good night of sleep.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 21:03 GMT
#3570
I honestly don't get / buy most of the analysis done so far. VE I don't like, but I feel like I'm too biased to make a fair judgement.

[quote=koshi]ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.

But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.[/quote]
I don't get this. So you think that Rean is scummy no matter how austin flips. But you still want to lynch austin even though you are not certain he is scum?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 21:04 GMT
#3571
EBWOP
On December 06 2013 06:03 LSB wrote:
I honestly don't get / buy most of the analysis done so far. VE I don't like, but I feel like I'm too biased to make a fair judgement.

Show nested quote +
[b]Koshi wrote[b/]ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.

But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.

I don't get this. So you think that Rean is scummy no matter how austin flips. But you still want to lynch austin even though you are not certain he is scum?

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 21:05 GMT
#3572
On December 06 2013 05:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 05:16 LSB wrote:
Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it

Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something.
Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night

Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked.
Koshi Took 50 Damage

Something is off here.

The good news is that I think we should not worry too much about rayn, Chezinu and that cuddly Koshi.

What we want to focus on is Austin, VE and OdinOfPergo.

Honestly I am giving a lot of weight to Chez accusation of you, and I really would like him to clear it up what it means. But knowing him I don't think he is going to
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 05 2013 21:06 GMT
#3573
i think mig is scum, austin is scum, ream prob not scum. Not quite buying sandrobas ream/austin connection theory but it might be right.
this isn't really an explain my reasons post, but more of a this is how I will use my vote post.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 21:21 GMT
#3574
On December 05 2013 23:12 sandroba wrote:
@kush I've looked at your filter and you've called almost every single person in the game town. Do you believe there is scum in this game? Who is looking suspicious?

Yeah I'm going to agree with this. This stands out incredibly suspicious to me. He seems a little to friendly and quick to make allies.

I am comparing his play in this game to the game here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&user=kushm4sta&currentpage=11 (I randomly chose only one game to read). I'm seeing a lot less aggression from Kush and it makes me wonder if he is just lying low.

I mean really, he has seem to nominated himself to be the friendly guy who defends everyone being accused.
On December 05 2013 16:28 kushm4sta wrote:
@rayne since i used to be (sometimes still am) a similar type of player, I consider it my specialty to townread antitown town.
I have an excellent record recently:
townreading clarity 2 games ago in that game where you were scum and marv pwned you.
townreading the n1 and n2 lynch last game that marv hosted
townreading bum in this game

and i am telling you rean is town.

I get that a ton of the lynches in mafia are just a combination of "he sucks at mafia so he must be scum" + tunneling, however Kush is just playing way to nice.

For example check out his tone right here.
On December 05 2013 16:33 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the fuck do you read some guy as town based on laziness?
Seriously kush, he has ~80 posts and his only read in this game is austin.


town and scum are lazy in different ways. Rayne you dont know what it's like to be a lazy mother fucker. The development of reads takes WORK. You have to look at filters and shit. Rean is way too lazy to do that. So he is sticking to this read that he believes in because he happened to come across it by chance just glancing at the thread and it took no work to find.

An aside, rayn, i actually love your cases. Like your big long ones. If you make one of those Iwill read th efuck out of very slowly and closely.

He is defending rean by basically saying Rayn is misguided. But the tone he is using is backing off from the actual accusation and spends his time complimenting Rayrr. This sycophantic rant seems more like an act and an attempt to curry favorable reads from people in the game.

I don't remember playing with kushm4sta, and I don't think I ever have. So if someone could tell me if my meta read is off that would be nice. However this is suspicious enough that I'm going to vote for him

##Vote: kushm4sta
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
December 05 2013 21:24 GMT
#3575
On December 06 2013 06:03 LSB wrote:
I honestly don't get / buy most of the analysis done so far. VE I don't like, but I feel like I'm too biased to make a fair judgement.

[quote=koshi]ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.

But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.

I don't get this. So you think that Rean is scummy no matter how austin flips. But you still want to lynch austin even though you are not certain he is scum?[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, your getting weird vibes from VE too?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
December 05 2013 21:26 GMT
#3576
On December 06 2013 06:05 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 05:19 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2013 05:16 LSB wrote:
Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it

Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something.
Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night

Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked.
Koshi Took 50 Damage

Something is off here.

The good news is that I think we should not worry too much about rayn, Chezinu and that cuddly Koshi.

What we want to focus on is Austin, VE and OdinOfPergo.

Honestly I am giving a lot of weight to Chez accusation of you, and I really would like him to clear it up what it means. But knowing him I don't think he is going to

I thought you summed it up nicely!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
December 05 2013 21:27 GMT
#3577
On December 06 2013 06:06 kushm4sta wrote:
i think mig is scum, austin is scum, ream prob not scum. Not quite buying sandrobas ream/austin connection theory but it might be right.
this isn't really an explain my reasons post, but more of a this is how I will use my vote post.

You saw his red name too?

Is Chezinu influencing the game or giving Third Party and Mafia an excuse to kill each other?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 05 2013 21:29 GMT
#3578
On December 06 2013 06:24 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 06:03 LSB wrote:
I honestly don't get / buy most of the analysis done so far. VE I don't like, but I feel like I'm too biased to make a fair judgement.

ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.

But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.

I don't get this. So you think that Rean is scummy no matter how austin flips. But you still want to lynch austin even though you are not certain he is scum?

Oh wow, your getting weird vibes from VE too?

I just don't get why he would suddenly decide to not go after me instead of Bum. This post is incredibly suspicious to me

On December 04 2013 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes I think Bum is scum. I thought it was clear that I thought both were scum. I think it's possible that Bum is town, I don't see that as possible where LSB is concerned. That's why my preference was/is LSB. But I can't make that happen tonight.

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 05 2013 21:40 GMT
#3579
I don't believe I have played with Chezinu. But I have heard of the Chezinu rule but don't know what it is.

Can someone give me a rundown on Chezinu and what to expect from him or how he usually plays.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
December 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#3580
On December 06 2013 06:40 jaybrundage wrote:
I don't believe I have played with Chezinu. But I have heard of the Chezinu rule but don't know what it is.

Can someone give me a rundown on Chezinu and what to expect from him or how he usually plays.

Chezinu is not your typically player. He loves to trolls. If he is town, he will have very good analysis usually point out who the mafia are without a clear case. He is pretty good at it. He does have trouble distinguishing between red and blues, so this game he might not be that useful. If he is mafia, he will probably be hunting for the third party. If he is third party, he will just have tons of fun with guns blazing or try to side with town as he has done in every game he was third party. Regardless of role he will have fun and write cryptic messages claiming almost every role, especially with a game has a rule that states one is suppose to have fun.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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