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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
It makes you no blind, it makes you see in the darkness we are living in! Trust the light my brown friend! | ||
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Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On December 05 2013 18:31 Koshi wrote: Not allwoed in any form. Yes. Don't you know I see all. You did not make anything. *tisk tisk* If rayn is willing to give you protection, then we may need to look more into you. Rayn doesn't support the good guys, at least from my experience last game. Why you gotz to lie? Why did rayn have to lie? Why did Mig have to be sick! | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 05 2013 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Listcheckers are banned. They are quite imba. sad story. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On December 04 2013 10:42 supersoft wrote: I agree that Bum looks really scummy. I'd vote him if necessary, but just let me play the devils advocate a little bit: The fact that Bum wanted to pick tryndamere - but in the end didnt pick tryndamere is one thing. LBS picking tryndamere and claiming it right after is another thing. Sandroba says scumLBS wouln't pick tryndamere if bum were town - because of the danger that bum follows his plan scumLBS wouldn't claim that he has tryndamere if bum were scum because than incriminates his buddy right? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=bumatlarge¤tpage=2 okay. I reread while making this post. I thought maybe i could find something that bum abandoned his plan to pick tryndamere. In between BC posted his list and Bum never followed his list up. ah well... @SS i dont see why you are surprised that oats has a scumread on you. He has seem you more active in previous games. You make posts like this which can pretty easily be read as scummy. How you say bum looks scummy, proceed to give a reason why he's not, but vote for him anyway. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On December 05 2013 18:34 Chezinu wrote: Don't you know I see all. You did not make anything. *tisk tisk* If rayn is willing to give you protection, then we may need to look more into you. Rayn doesn't support the good guys, at least from my experience last game. Why you gotz to lie? Why did rayn have to lie? Why did Mig have to be sick! Pretty sure I made something and the hosts confirmed it in the Daypost. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
And I voted for him later. At this point I was thinking about the facts on the table. I had doubts, yes, and I explained them. There is nothing wrong about discussing a lynchtarget. it's called analysis and there is nothing scummy about it. Obviously I wonder why Oats is voting me. This guy has given no reasoning for his vote at all. I don't accept - I cannot accept: "Supers wasn't here, so he's scum" as a reason. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
Where is LSB? I hate whenever people who were under the gun and survive a lynch proceed to disappear from the thread. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On December 05 2013 19:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also am I the only person who wants koshi to tell us what his invention does? I wanted to create an event with a big picture and normally all this should have been done in the thread. But hosts didn't allow that it seems so it is probably a night action. This is what it does. + Show Spoiler + Please type in the thread: ##Baby: Player X ##Mother: Player Y ##Mother: Player Z There will be a parity cop check done. In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die. In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On December 05 2013 19:10 Koshi wrote: I wanted to create an event with a big picture and normally all this should have been done in the thread. But hosts didn't allow that it seems so it is probably a night action. This is what it does. + Show Spoiler + Please type in the thread: ##Baby: Player X ##Mother: Player Y ##Mother: Player Z There will be a parity cop check done. In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die. In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen. Ok so let me work through this logic because I'm exhausted and visually is gonna be the only way this will work for me. X=Town Y=Town Z=Town Nothing will happen X=Scum Y=Town Z=Town Y will die X=Town Y=Scum Z=Town ???? X=Town Y=Town Z=Scum Z will Die Am I reading this right? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + X=Town Y=Town Z=Town Nothing happens X=Scum Y=Town Z=Town Nothing happens X=Town Y=Scum Z=Town Y will die X=Town Y=Town Z=Scum Z will die | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
I forgot I made that mistake. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have the same alignment. Player Y will die. The point of the item is to have baby go to his same alignement mother and the different alignment mother to be executed. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Mocsta In GoT we had less than "2 KP". I think we had 11 damage and all players had 7 HP iirc. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
JonnyLaw pls On December 05 2013 13:53 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (1): VisceraEyes Rean (1): raynpelikoneet JonnyLaw (1): Mocsta Modkill zone (24): all dem playas Rean is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On December 05 2013 19:59 Koshi wrote: I am filterdiving Prome and I just remember something from catching up. Mocsta In GoT we had less than "2 KP". I think we had 11 damage and all players had 7 HP iirc. Interesting. Thing is, half the thread hasnt commented in the 7 hrs since the lynch so hopefully when i wake up tomorrow we will be in a situation to piece it all together. That invention looks pretty stacked -- me likes  | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
ME: On December 04 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=JonnyLaw jonnylaw Reading his filter I'm at loggerheads. - I cant follow his reads mid Day1 - they read like checklists and with some of the reads I dont even know if the lean is town or null. - I find him to be a lot more direct/assertive during the pick phase. Coupled with the point above I find pretty scummy. - Has a read on OWB/Kush.. that is weird. On one hand he is making some effort in his filter to push it, and on the other hand I don't feel he is making an effort to strengthen his read by talking to Kush. - I do like how he plays early Day 1 with Geript/Jay. It felt like he was stopping that feud and then tried to generate discussion with the right level of assertiveness. - I also misread him earlier when I said he +1'd me. That was prob OMGUS of me. Having said that, I dont see why it is relevant to call me out for making excuses. Doesn't take it anywhere either. Overall I think he has good potential to be scum. I really want to see him push his prime read (Kush) more. + I'm not sure if knowing he is a newbie is affecting my read. CONFIRMED TOWN PROME - very similar read/outcome On December 04 2013 17:36 Promethelax wrote: Johnnylaw + Show Spoiler + Not even a name I recognize. Given that he doesn't even have a mafia database entry I'll assume he is new.. As always anyone who knows anything about the individual who can add anything metawise would be greatly appreciated. According to an old Gonzaw heuristic I'd have to call JL scum, he stopped posting while getting boozed up. You can't trust a dude who stops posting while his guard is down. Based on his early posts I'll assume Johnnylaw is a LoL convert brought over by Wave. Dude knows his LoL (and I don't, so a lot of his early posts are not in a language I speak). DINGDINGDING we have a winner folks On December 01 2013 11:18 JonnyLaw wrote: This makes no sense. There's not a lot of pressure on you because you're flipping it on everyone else. Just fucking calm down, make your arguments and wait while we gain more information as people post, vote and draft. I get that you're making people talk and that will help us down the line but for now we have little information and ten pages of personal attacks and shit posting is clogging up the whole fucking thread. Get your shit together or I'm saying you are scum or at the least, not helping the town actively. The series of personal attacks and shit posting for ten pages gave me nothing yet. I'll post again after I see what scum ban. Holy double donkey dicks. Would lynch off of this post. 1. threat 2. it was a weak threat 3 that last sentence. You know what ten pages of shitposting gives a townie? I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with bum lead. 4. the whole thing is a soft grab for town points, its a 'ooh but bad thread atmosphere is bad' post with out doing anything to fix what it complains about. Scum love to agree with something being anti town while doing nothing to prevent it. So far this post is the scummiest thing I've read in this thread. Would lynch. This post is pretty awful to (its directed at bum) On December 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote: Warwick's not a strong first pick. + Show Spoiler + At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand. Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is. "I don't understand, therefore you are scum" = scummy "I don't understand, I would like to understand" = townie which is the above? Oh yes, the former. Johnnylaw is not making new points of his own, is arguing for and against nothings and keeps grabbing at town points while attacking town favoured plans. Note that he argues with the usefulness of the plan but does not provide a better plan, he is tearing down not bringing up. Corollary to the Chezinu rule, the kushmasta rule. On December 03 2013 06:25 JonnyLaw wrote: Okay, I was out all day yesterday. Two hours later I've finally caught up in the thread. gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game. Soniv - fine for now. Looks to be making an effort to push the game towards a goal. kushmasta - Like really? This guy comes into the thread and starts calling people scum in one liners and generally shitting the place up. He replaced OWB who completely shut down and hated playing scum in NMM L. The random tooscummytobescum post irritates me as well. The rest have longer filters and I need to evaluate them. Just reading through the last 20 pages hasn't left me with other strong feelings yet. I'll be checking filters and around for a while. twenty pages of reading twenty four hours after his last thread appearance and the only kinda scummy thing he picks up on is that kush is a weird ass dude. I could have told you that for free. He also says that gtsrs is playing the game. Which is not a conclusion. Everyone can see that gt is busy/lazy/scum JL doesn't provide any insight, he says he didn't like something and follows it with nothing until VE brings it up again at which time JL +1s like a champ. He does these quick summaries of people which I can't stand, many of you know my stance on list posts without content and JL has many posts which are just one continuous contentless list. A bit of an excuse since Sandro asked him to look at those particular filters but in reality he said nothing about the four players. Conclusion rating 4.5 my qualms with a JL lynch. The kid may be so new he doesn't see what he is doing and is unsure of how to contribute in a large game, lord knows its hard. He could be throwing around dog crap posts because he simply doesn't know how to make better posts, he seems relativly involved in the thread and has intereacted with many players by name and by idea. For now he looks like my first pressure for day two but I am not yet confidant I will want to lynch him. If I had to guess most likely scum out of the players I have filtered so far I'd take JL no questions asked. ME On December 05 2013 11:59 Mocsta wrote: (3) jonnylaw is looking the goods for D2. He *STILL* isn't pushing his main read. I get hes come in and had to defend himself, but normally town brush that stuff off and then get back into scum hunting. Please lynch This is the best case in the whole game. Lets do this guise ! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
First post. Big post on geript that ends with this conclusion: geript is probably a townie playing poorly in the early game rather than a scummer. Would not be happy lynching him d1. As he is trying to contribute. My major problem with him as a town read is conclusion A. I'm having trouble reconciling that thought process with a townie. In this big post there are a couple things Prome say that make geript look bad. Like geript saying roles don't matter and geript saying there are 6 scums and 2KP. But if we look at the end of the post we see that Prome gives geript a towntell for his interaction with different people, him being all over the place AND his insightful and strong read on Kurumi. Which is extra townie now Kurumi flipped town imo. Second post. A lot of people are discussed in this post. I will quickly recap. Supersoft: Some FoS for hinky posts. Roffles: Lynchbait. Koshi: Needs to shape up. Onegu: Needs to shape up. Puts Onegu on a 4. (but I disagree on the reasons.) VE: Prome commented on the nitpick between VE and Kush and said Kush was in his right. That's all. gtrsrs: Prome his favorite lynch target. I will spoiler his case here.+ Show Spoiler + On December 05 2013 01:26 gtrsrs wrote: i'm going to the gym. when i get back i'm going to take a shower and make breakfast. if my girlfriend is still asleep and nothing comes up by that point, i'll make my case for a lynch. if she's up, my case will have to wait until probably 3pm pst today. either way i'll do my best to have a cohesive lynch case by the end of today (dec 4th) i feel strongly about my read. if my case is strong enough to convince you to lynch my suspect, and i turn out wrong, i'd like to be lynched the next day please. i just simply don't feel strongly enough about anyone other than my target to make any conclusive assessments yet, yet i feel like you guys are putting a lot of pressure on lurkers to perform more (and rightly so). i will probably have my confidence shaken and be even more worthless if i'm wrong on this one thanks I'm so sorry Johhnylaw! I said you had the worst single post in the game. I lied. gtsrs has the worst post of the game (which I have read so far, there might be a hidden gem) Breakdown of why this post is awful and makes gtsrs red on my spreadsheet (if I had one he would be anyway) 1. pre excuses lurking 2. says he will make a case on a particular individual but does not name the individual, leaving room to make a case on the town wagon leader and claiming credit for an early read. 3. pre excuses that read flipping town 4. martyrs early all in all the above post is an attempt to do dick all. Take credit for leading a lynch. Be useless. Garner pity. would lynch rated a solid 4.5 MZ: Says he doesn't understand why MZ is so mad at that lovely Koshi and asks for explanation. A pretty nice conclusion is added as well, I might have missed some things but like Prome said, you can find them yourselves: I made a set of cases when I entered the game for Kush, JayB, LSB (less so) and geript being town while Onegu and Coag were on the scum side of null I also made cases for Johnnylaw and gtsrs being scum and half a scum case on VE in this post. My filter is short, you can find all of them. Third post+ Show Spoiler + On December 05 2013 08:28 Promethelax wrote: so two things about this, 1 yes I can and will ignore how the thread was progressing during that time. I was not in the thread and can't analyse what the thread was doing as a whole during its organic evolution. Instead I am looking at individuals separate from the thread. 2. To the bolded (his emphasis not mine): hehehehehehehehe. I've posted on all of those players besides Kenpachi (who even knew he was in the game? Not I) and what you are doing is shouting out a list of players and begging the thread which, right now is me, VE and marv, to attacka lurker for you. Of those I find Rean townie Coag scummy Onegu so unreadble as to be worth killing and gtsrs rather townie. Now if you want the thread to pursue one of those targets who you so ineptly try to accuse of something you can make a case on them. This post pushes you further into scum category for me. LSB is an easy target and has been talked to death, you didn't add anything to the case against him and, therefore, I do not find this case to give you townie points. Conclusion still scummy. I just like this entire post. That's kinda it for now. I will revisit this filter later I think, when I get a better grip on the game. I will now start diving people that Prome was suspicious off and work from there. Prome played pretty strong I think. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Rean on the other hand is incapable to even give 3 scumreads. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On December 05 2013 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am still telling you all JonnyLaw will flip town. Rean on the other hand is incapable to even give 3 scumreads. k, im home now and willing to listen. Convince me. Even if its just look at my filter. | ||
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