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On December 05 2013 09:24 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?
I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv. LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum. The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum. I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make. And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing. I don't know your personality well I've played one game with you that I can remember and it was a hydra game where I wrote you/wave off as town early because you were town. I liked that Guitars Are Us was looking into things based on your personality and what he saw as differing from that. Having played scum I believe that would be a hard case to write as scum because he has to set himself up to 1v1 you and be the expert on you. Also the weird overstepping paranoia around your role/character names is a townie trait, its just so out there and precise in its out-there-ness that it smells like strawberries.
Except that he's talking about my personality as if he knows me on a personal level, which he certainly does not. He talks as if he really gets me and knows how I react to things
On December 05 2013 09:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?
I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv. LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum. The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum. I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make. And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing. Everything you've said about geript has been flimsy as fuck. Far flimsier than what you're accusing gtrsrs of.
I mean, that's somewhat fair, but at least I've been here, trying to do things. Making attempts, maybe incorrectly. Gatorserious comes back from inactivity and useless spam with a case that has an incredibly soft foundation based on the fact that he thinks he understands my interactions.
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On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch.
yeaaaaaah that's not happening
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Could you go into detail how it was "full" of "fabrications" please?
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Just to give you a heads up, fabrication is not the same thing as interpretation.
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On December 05 2013 09:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:24 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?
I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv. LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum. The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum. I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make. And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing. I don't know your personality well I've played one game with you that I can remember and it was a hydra game where I wrote you/wave off as town early because you were town. I liked that Guitars Are Us was looking into things based on your personality and what he saw as differing from that. Having played scum I believe that would be a hard case to write as scum because he has to set himself up to 1v1 you and be the expert on you. Also the weird overstepping paranoia around your role/character names is a townie trait, its just so out there and precise in its out-there-ness that it smells like strawberries. Except that he's talking about my personality as if he knows me on a personal level, which he certainly does not. He talks as if he really gets me and knows how I react to things Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:25 marvellosity wrote:On December 05 2013 09:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?
I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv. LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum. The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum. I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make. And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing. Everything you've said about geript has been flimsy as fuck. Far flimsier than what you're accusing gtrsrs of. I mean, that's somewhat fair, but at least I've been here, trying to do things. Making attempts, maybe incorrectly. Gatorserious comes back from inactivity and useless spam with a case that has an incredibly soft foundation based on the fact that he thinks he understands my interactions.
And this is why I wish wave was in this game to refute/support those things since I know to trust his assessment of your personality.
So you think scum gtrsrs attacked town Soniv based on personality traits which gtrsrs totally made up and have no foundation in reality? Is that more likely than town gtrsrs making a case on alignment Soniv based on something which he, gtrsrs believes to be true about Soniv despite the protestations of his target?
If I'm correct in assuming that Guitars are Us came from LoL subforum and has played minimal mafia than you are the person he knows best in this player list. The fact that he turned on his most likely ally in the thread seems to point to someone not looking for allies.
The above has been colour coded for your convenience/my amusement.
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On December 05 2013 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
Just to give you a heads up, fabrication is not the same thing as interpretation.
Ok, well a mix of fabrication and incredibly poor interpretation then.
- Bases his case on the fact that he is under the impression that he knows me well.
- Calls me defensive in several instances where I wasn't defensive at all.
- Claims I make an ad hominem attack, but omits the majority of the post in which I call him an idiot for determining that I'm Karma despite it having been claimed already
- Fabricates me "daring LSB to use his role". This can't even be poor interpretation, he made up the message of my post.
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You were defensive. You did lash out. These are not unfair interpretations of what you have done at all.
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yo marv, anything you want me to comment on/talk about before I go MIA for a few hours to finish up one of the two things left in my semester?
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On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions.
So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent.
I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS!
First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that.
Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing).
I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case.
Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises.
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On December 05 2013 09:43 marvellosity wrote:
You were defensive. You did lash out. These are not unfair interpretations of what you have done at all.
I saw it as pushing him to make a post rather than lashing out. Gtrs clearly came into the thread and made no effort to read it.
He posts well enough in general that more can be expected of him.
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On December 05 2013 09:43 marvellosity wrote:
You were defensive. You did lash out. These are not unfair interpretations of what you have done at all.
Oh, I definitely lashed out at guitar. It's not that he just lurked. When he "came back with activity", it was information that was not actually helping the game. And just flat out didn't make any attempts to scum hunt.
But I haven't ever been defensive. There hasn't been a time in this game yet when I thought I would die.
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On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises.
I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum.
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Well, the fact you don't think you've been defensive when gtrsrs, I, and probably others think you clearly have been may be telling in itself :> The way you're treating his case is pretty defensive. It really wasn't "full of fabrications". *that* is a fabrication if any. I don't know if any of this makes you mafia, jcarl, but I'll say that how you've handled it hasn't made me go "ah cool, soniv looks townie from this"
Jonny, I think you're mafia, but that can wait for another time. Your weird interjection kinda massages that read.
Anyway, enough from me for now. I'm out until tomorrow/death.
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On December 05 2013 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS! First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises. I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum.
In the recent Hogwarts game Harry Potter was scum. I wouldn't put to much weight on stuff like that.
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K, well, idk what to tell you then marv
I also agree that Jonny looks bad with those posts.
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On December 05 2013 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS! First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises. I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum. In the recent Hogwarts game Harry Potter was scum. I wouldn't put to much weight on stuff like that.
It's possible, but color me surprised if that's the case.
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On December 05 2013 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS! First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises. I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum. In the recent Hogwarts game Harry Potter was scum. I wouldn't put to much weight on stuff like that.
Of course he was. He's British right?
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On December 05 2013 09:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:On December 05 2013 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS! First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises. I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum. In the recent Hogwarts game Harry Potter was scum. I wouldn't put to much weight on stuff like that. Of course he was. He's British right?
No comment^^
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I'm not randomly interjecting. I said gtrs post was bad an hour ago and still think it's bad.
Attacking the person you know in the thread doesn't make him more town to me. He's attacking the person who addressed his lack of content in the thread then saying he won't post for a while. Soniv already had pressure from bum and it's such an easy target. Lurking then posting a bad read then lurking some more does not make him town.
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