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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#2961
You're convinced LSB is town then?

I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 04 2013 23:52 GMT
#2962
If by some chance I get killed tonight I would like to leave my best guesses for scum. I'll be more thourough if I survive.

supersoft
austinmcc
kenpachi
JonnyLaw
(Meapak)

LSB might be sk if there is one present.

cheers.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
December 04 2013 23:54 GMT
#2963
On December 05 2013 08:52 sandroba wrote:
If by some chance I get killed tonight I would like to leave my best guesses for scum. I'll be more thourough if I survive.

supersoft
austinmcc
kenpachi
JonnyLaw
(Meapak)

LSB might be sk if there is one present.

cheers.

Why would he be SK?
Apart from that I like this list.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 05 2013 00:00 GMT
#2964
On December 05 2013 05:15 Promethelax wrote:I think you are right marv, I wasn't in the game at the time and was ascribing a seriousness to the post which did not necessarily exist. However, since it may have existed geript could you please explain your reasoning for the post on zero bans. Thanks.I'm also interested in how you, geript, feel in general now that I have partially filtered you as you asked.

How I feel in general, nauseaous. But that's just the antibiotic I'm on right now. As for my post on 0 bans, I honestly don't think that bans (other than maybe yorick) made any sense this game. We're given little information about roles, their health levels, how much they protect or damage, what the ultimate is, Unlike the previous PYP where there were obvious roles that were exceptionally important to deny scum and it was a matter of how people ordered them, this PYP because of the complete ambiguity of the roles there's little real discussable material with it. So not only are we very unlikely to be able to pick the "right 3", the discussion about the picks is likely to devolve into a worthless "IMO this" "IMO that". Plus, I just don't think it actually makes a difference on the game at all. Which roles get banned being/making the scum team the most vulnerable or feel the most vulnerable is going to change drastically based on who's scum. None of the bans actually replace the ability to scumhunt or in any way affect the ability to scumhunt (yorick included), so the bans and number picking and role picking is very much a distractor for me than I think it is anything important. I based the role I picked partially based on which people my champion apparently played with more consideration to which roles I'd want to know if someone ahead of me were to take or which roles I'd prefer to prevent scum having. In many ways I've taken a similar approach to how Dr. Helvetica took in LIV, "who's mayor/pardoner doesn't really matter. I'm more concerned with who the mayor is intending to lynch" despite the fact that I exceptionally despise Dr.H and think he's an awful person and would never ever want to play a game with him again except to play just to troll him and annoy the fuck out of him.

On a more serious note about how I feel after you've filtered me, I actually feel pretty good about my play and I think that alot of your description of my play tends to characterize some major differences I have as town.
On December 04 2013 20:29 Promethelax wrote:The problem I have with this is that geript holds on to this thing which should be obviously not worth a damn to him (and everyone else) its an hour 0 pressure. Its based on almost nothing. But geript is in it like a hell hound. Got his teeth sunk in the meat of Jay's leg all deep like, I don't see it from a townie. A scum wants to leave fangs in over something dumb because its a way to look active. A town gives up bad game as bad when they realize its going no where.

Like this specifically, I don't believe that hour 0 pressure is not worth a damn. I very much feel like many of my initial impressions and feelings are less clouded by my conscious thought process. I've given many strange and correct scum reads on people very early on based on completely random stuff. As for me sinking my teeth in, I think that's very apt but I also didn't feel like there was an adequate resolution to my suspicion of jay and it moreso got passed over based on picking phase "priority stuff." To be honest, a lot of that unsatisfactory resolution is why I went back and took a look at him late day 1 because I wasn't really liking how the bum vote was shaping up and I wanted to provide an alternative that I really believed in because I'm just not sold on all the LSB stuff. The major difference for me between how I play scum and how I play town is a lot of my scum play has shown that as scum i want to convince town to follow my lynch out of an ego thing and I don't want to have to bother trying to keep a consistent timeline of things (which is exceptionally hard for me to do); additionally, I'm far more passive as scum. I think most people equate my scum play with Dr.H's "the Game" which is really unfair because my scum team was absolutely amazing and that really lifted my play; whereas I think my scum play is far more like LX or LXI whichever one it was that I was "confirmed town" in. I literally had to keep on watching WoS filter in that game to try and keep up with his page count so that my activity wasn't an obvious tell.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 05 2013 00:03 GMT
#2965
heads up im going to be inactive for the next 5 days. Maybe it'll be better if I'm replaced
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 05 2013 00:03 GMT
#2966
On top of all that, I think I'm a bit relieved by it. I think a Geript mislynch is a thing that can be very easy to push and with, at that point, many people and some who I thought were town were including me on their "Hmmm I could lynch this dude" list. Lynches like that can happen really quick and I didn't want another thing like what happened with Bum (Wagon forms, no real opposition or alternate option around) to happen to me too. Because that's very frustrating as a player.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2013 00:07 GMT
#2967
On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?

I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv.


LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum.

The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 05 2013 00:08 GMT
#2968
comments: I strongly discourage meta reads on me. I never played like this.

Other things before I leave, pin down people through how they accuse others. Bum was such a shitty lynch that it'll be easy. gl hf

I'm also rather interested what you dips have to say about me anyways.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 05 2013 00:09 GMT
#2969
you are going to be inactive for 5 days but you are not going to be replaced?? sounds like scum to me
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mid or Feed
Profile Joined November 2013
Korea (South)250 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 00:10:23
December 05 2013 00:10 GMT
#2970
It has been pointed out to me that there is a slight inconsistency in deadline timing.

I will change the action submission deadline to for this night.
At the point the countdown ends, there will be thread silence for the resolution period (which may or may not be 1h) until the daypost goes up.

In the future, all night actions must be in one hour before the daypost goes up, and there will be a 1h period of silence during that time as we resolve actions.
Me mid or AFK nubs nubs nubs
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 05 2013 00:13 GMT
#2971
On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?

I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv.


LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum.

The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum.


I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make.

And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 05 2013 00:13 GMT
#2972
On December 05 2013 09:09 kushm4sta wrote:
you are going to be inactive for 5 days but you are not going to be replaced?? sounds like scum to me

god I want to call you dumb but first i need you to explain your logic
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 05 2013 00:17 GMT
#2973
On December 05 2013 09:13 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 09:09 kushm4sta wrote:
you are going to be inactive for 5 days but you are not going to be replaced?? sounds like scum to me

god I want to call you dumb but first i need you to explain your logic


you are going to be inactive for 5 days
you tell us maybe i should be replaced?
but you were just teasing us and really you aren't requesting replacement??

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2013 00:24 GMT
#2974
On December 05 2013 09:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?

I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv.


LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum.

The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum.


I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make.

And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing.


I don't know your personality well I've played one game with you that I can remember and it was a hydra game where I wrote you/wave off as town early because you were town. I liked that Guitars Are Us was looking into things based on your personality and what he saw as differing from that. Having played scum I believe that would be a hard case to write as scum because he has to set himself up to 1v1 you and be the expert on you. Also the weird overstepping paranoia around your role/character names is a townie trait, its just so out there and precise in its out-there-ness that it smells like strawberries.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 05 2013 00:25 GMT
#2975
On December 05 2013 09:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
On December 05 2013 08:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
You're convinced LSB is town then?

I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv.


LSB = town? Nien. I am convinced that what LSB has done so far has been pro town and would not be hard to fake as scum. If he scum hunts well in next day he is town. If not he is scum. He is not someone I am interested in lynching d2. I am interested in lynching him d3 if he continues to provide only those things which are easy to provide as scum.

The attack on soniv shows a thought process that, while not one I totally agree with, seems to be trying to find scum. Its a townie kind of way to look at the world. I didn't feel like he was trying to justify lynching soniv he was trying to find scum.


I highly disagree with this. He might not be trying to lynch me in particular. But it's a fairly easy case for him to start because bum was tunneling me, and he just flipped green. It's an easy transition for him to make.

And the case was incredibly flimsy. Long, detailed, but full of fabrications and reading red from nothing.

Everything you've said about geript has been flimsy as fuck. Far flimsier than what you're accusing gtrsrs of.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 05 2013 00:28 GMT
#2976
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.

I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 05 2013 00:29 GMT
#2977
On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.

I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch.

Why did you choose that hero?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#2978
I think that the arson ability is really dangerous in scum hands. I didn't want them to be able to build up to take out 3-5 people with one ability.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#2979
On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.

I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch.


Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions.

I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS!

Why is it ever a good idea to claim our person names? They have no relation to our roles or abilities and could be punishable by said hidden abilities (like Warwick's non-hidden one)
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 05 2013 00:34 GMT
#2980
That obv can make Lylo/mylo up recognizable points. I wanted to go for ezreal but I figured she'd go high.
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