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On December 09 2013 05:12 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 09 2013 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 04:35 Risen wrote:On December 09 2013 04:19 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 04:15 Risen wrote:On December 09 2013 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 09 2013 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I shot Risen for 225 I guess that's obvious.
Yeah, JL could be Kassadin. If that's the case Mocsta looks good and Rayn really bad I think. explain. Well, Mocsta was attacking him pretty hard (I admit that's not that indicative as long as JL isn't lynched) and you defended him very strongly. Since I am having a bad feeling about you anyways and Kassadin is a very useful role for scum this does not help you in my eyes. But let's stop this for now as it is very speculative. Just to double check you shot me because rayn looked bad to you? Lulz Nope, I shot you because you managed to look bad on your own. How? All I've done is lurked. Mind explaining your read on me? You shot me for a nice amount of HP, so you must have quite compelling reasoning. Or maybe it's "this guy lurked and delurked to help lynch a townie". In which case I understand, though I now think you're scum for shooting Karma. Get me lynched if you think I'm scum, don't shoot a fucking doctor role. If I was a regular claim I would get it, but we need to examine why JAT thought shooting a doctor was a good idea, especially when he doesn't know what the mantra'd version of my spells do. "Oh he's scum so I shot him" isn't very good reasoning when I can protect people. Based on this I think JAT is scum. Rayn is telling me in QT Coag is scum, though, and he has some pretty good reasons (nuke claim and uselessness. I don't hold a grudge for the useless aspect, I'm fairly useless, too, but I'm not a troll) I'll probably put my vote on one of those two. I also still have scum reads on LSB and jcarl and haven't seen anything to change my mind on that front. You said it yourself. You were the scummiest useless lurker to me so I shot you - end of story. This can't possibly be true JAT.. Yes it can. Of course Rean, Coag, Roffles are all equally useless but I had to make a choice who of those people was the scummiest and I decided it was Risen for last minute lynching austin. Had Coag nuked mkfuba before I would have shot him instead but this happened Day 3. See, trap card activated. I'm not actually the one who got austin lynched. I moved to him, but he was still losing when I did. A townie with a shot that strong would carefully consider his shot. Scum just try and justify their shot after the fact with inane nonsense like this.
You were one of the people getting austin lynched. No way to deny that.
I explained my shot and I won't discuss this with you any further just so you can fake some activity.
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You aren't exactly in the position to tell me to work on my game, bud.
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On December 09 2013 05:24 Koshi wrote:
Going to give all the players on the last 4 pages a townread. ezpz life.
And why exactly?
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Ok rayn but this is the last time I am gonna answer this.
On December 09 2013 17:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also it does not make sense for Risen to lie about the roleblock because i would have been dead already at this point if that was the case. He's basically fucking over his team if he is mafia with his plan. It makes no sense.
I want to hear why JAT believes Risen is more scummy than Rean. He said "because Risen just voted for austin's lynch". Guess what, so did Rean, aactually that's the only thing Rean has done in this game besides... shooting austin on D1.. JAT you need to explain why Risen is more scummy than Rean considering the things i have just pointed out.
First things first: I have to admit I didn't think about the roleblock when shooting Risen. Yeah, you can call me bad for that. Still I don't think it makes that much of a difference. I don't really get your explanation for why Risen couldn't lie about being roleblocked while doing something else.
Now you claim to have created some kind of plan in your qt. Nice to know. I would prefer it if Risen would just start to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. Also given the fact that you may very well be mafia the plan is possibly fucked anyways even if Risen is town.
You can't seriously compare Rean voting austin with Risen voting austin. Rean was the first person to vote him while Risen only switched when MZ was in danger to be lynched instead. I don't say Rean is town but the voting of Risen definitely looked scummier to me. Especially because of this gem:
On December 07 2013 11:52 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 11:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
rayn and sandro are gonna be fuckin pissed lol What else is new, though!  This post makes me think you're scum trying to drop a wifom bomb before you die.
Now to this:
On December 09 2013 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 18:18 Koshi wrote:On December 09 2013 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi answer me. Will you invent KP and give it to Risen? I could. But I am groing tired of doing what you want with my inventions. Then make something better. But be sure that's better and kills mafia. Right now your inventions have not found single mafia. You invent a check. You out the person you gave the check for no reason. Of course he's gonna get roleblocked. Smells fishy. You invent the ambulance radio. Did that find scum? I doubt. Did that find townies? Not really as people are idiots and won't claim doing damage. If you had invented the police radio we could be sure of VE's alignment because it had shown if he did try to check someone or not. There is also a possibility of a tracker & watcher in the game so those reports would have been outed aswell. So yeah, unless you make something useful do as i say. Right now tbh you have been the most useless inventor i have ever seen in a PYP game... That being said. This is why Risen is town. Look at what his mason does. It makes me and him lovers. So: Risen scum - rayn town: Does not make sense. If Risen is scum he effectively just made himself to take all the damage in this game i take. He has already taken damage so by that way mafia can't possibly hit me. Makes sense, when he could just protect his scumbuddy instead? If anyone thinks he would do that, all i can say is rofl. Risen scum - rayn scum: Good job Risen, you just made two scum lovers. Best plan 2013. rofl. Therefore, even if you do not think i am town Risen using his ability on me (or on anyone) does not make any sense because he could just use the doc on scumbuddy instead. He is town.
Why would you take damage if you are town and he is scum? Mafia won't hit you in this case and I don't think any townie would either.
If you are both scum it makes a little less sense I admit but it is not impossible because I think the possibility of townies shooting you are as low as in the other case.
As far as I know his ability lasts only 2 phases so he is far less comitted to this than you are trying to make us believe.
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Btw. do you want to lynch Koshi over Coag now rayn?
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On December 09 2013 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
JAT, do you not know how lovers would work?
Why wouldn't I? You have to keep in mind that they aren't real lovers though.
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On December 09 2013 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh you are right JAT. Anyways, the plan i made makes it hard for mafia. You can consider Risen for a lynch tomorrow. I agree he should be playing the game instead of lurking. He has some good ideas in QT. What i am saying is even if he is mafia he is not a good lynch for today. Or a good shot for next night. No townie should visit either of us the next night. We'll see about what he does tomorrow okay? In case one of us dies it is going to be either both of us or only Risen. I'll tell you tomorrow what our plan was. It's really good. I will also push him for his reads in QT, so far he has been really cooperative and gave pro-town ideas for his powers. In case we both die it does not matter because you will know both of our alignments. Deal?
Yes i think Koshi is more likely to be mafia. Could you read what i wrote about him and comment on it please.
Fine, I won't shoot either of you N3. Still I don't get why he is so pro town/has good ideas and shit in your qt but doesn't bother in the thread.
What you said about Koshi makes some sense I guess (will have another look at it later). It is weird that he doesn't get to know how his own invention really works in the end but I won't be gaming the hosts here. Also, why do you bring that up now and didn't do so much earlier?
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On December 09 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 20:10 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
JAT, do you not know how lovers would work? Why wouldn't I? You have to keep in mind that they aren't real lovers though. We are for D3 and N3.
Yeah, but you only take damage/effects together you don't necessarily die together like lovers since you probably have significantly more HP than Risen left me thinks.
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On December 09 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Risen thinks Coagulation should die for his "nuke". He also think Onegu should die for not following through on a promise as a policy lynch and for not having reads. He thinks jcarl and LSB are scum and he thinks ticklish knows too much. I don't know what the last thing is about and i explained ticklish will most likely die soon anyways if he is town. He thinks JL is scum for not pressuring him harder and trying to blend his soft push. He asked me to taunt JAT the next night which seems reasonable since he thinks JAT will keep shooting him. I told him i will not most likely do that because i think anyone who shoots us effectively claims mafia because of what we are about to do.
That being said the only person who should visit us next night is a possible watcher. In case they see someone visiting us they are likely scum. If a tracker sees someone visiting us they are likely scum. My plan is to block mafia KP.
I guess everybody thinks coag should die for this - the question is do we lynch him or do we shoot him (lynching is probably safer). I think jcarl looks rather townie than scummy and I would be highly surprised if ticklish was scum taking that much confirmed damage. Why would you taunt me? If I shot you I would hit Risen aswell. I don't understand.
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On December 09 2013 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 20:17 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 09 2013 20:10 justanothertownie wrote:On December 09 2013 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
JAT, do you not know how lovers would work? Why wouldn't I? You have to keep in mind that they aren't real lovers though. We are for D3 and N3. Yeah, but you only take damage/effects together you don't necessarily die together like lovers since you probably have significantly more HP than Risen left me thinks. That's my point, why would he do what he did as mafia regardless of my affiliation? If he is scum he makes me not considered as mafia hit (noone should doc us next night btw). If i am scum too he makes us both exposed to town KP. It makes no sense when he can just doc a scumbuddy instead..
This is getting too speculative for my liking. I will just wait and see what happens.
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Maybe I am blind but how did you get the idea VE did the damage to ticklish, rayn? I don't see it to be honest.
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Yeah, I am somewhat puzzled by the damage on you and Risen. It would make sense that both of you took 100 because one of you was attacked but Risen claimed to take additional 50 damage and you did not - how is that possible?
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On December 09 2013 04:09 Risen wrote:
Woah I didn't think anyone would actually have the balls to claim shooting Karma lol. I've actually taken 375 damage. So I think there's unclaimed damage on me.
So is this a typo then? I know the ambulance radio said he took 325. That's 225 by my shot + 100 so I thought maybe you both took 100 due to his ability.
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KP roles off the top of my head:
JAT - unknown KP role - 225 damage on Rean N1, 225 damage on Risen N2
mkfuba - unknown KP role - 125 damage on JL N1
Mig - Cho'Gath - 125 damage on MZs clone N1
LSB - Tryndamere - able to jump over people for 50 damage
VE - Lux - claims to be able to do damage
Onegu - KP role - can do damage
Some VTs are able to do 50 damage (Rean for example).
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On December 09 2013 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +Resolve - At night, you chain target player to you and also mason him non-anonymously. Abilities that affect one of you also affect the other. (Abilities that fit the 'Items/trap' designation do not follow this rule.) Lasts 2 phases. Also i dunno why would i not be masoned with him on N2 if that was the case. Like the other half of his power would work differently than the other one..
Dunno. But as I said: My shots resolve instantly so technically I shot him before you were chained together.
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On December 09 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
KP roles off the top of my head:
JAT - unknown KP role - 225 damage on Rean N1, 225 damage on Risen N2
mkfuba - unknown KP role - 125 damage on JL N1
Mig - Cho'Gath - 125 damage on MZs clone N1
LSB - Tryndamere - able to jump over people for 50 damage
VE - Lux - claims to be able to do damage
Onegu - KP role - can do damage
Some VTs are able to do 50 damage (Rean for example). Wait why did you change your target from N1 to N2? That makes no sense to me.  So either scum hit me, 2 scum VT's hit me, or the player i taunted tried to hit someone. supersoft what did you do last night?
I changed my opinion on Rean after shooting him. If you are interested read my filter at that time and keep in mind I shot him almost instantly after I said "maybe he should be shot" and marv agreed.
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If you were chained together - wouldn't Risen be roleblocked by that? On the other hand if you weren't chained he would not be roleblocked. My head hurts.
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On December 09 2013 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah you are lying because my role takes only half dmg.
##unvote:
##Vote: supersoft
Interesting.
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So rayn would have taken additional 100 damage -> reduced to 50. Where does all the damage come from? I guess VTs doing damage should start claiming because it would help clear some things up.
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I have an idea, rayn: You got hit by SSs yellow card because redirect>roleblock but you took the full 100 damage because roleblock>KP/heals/whatever.
Does that make any sense?
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