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On December 03 2013 23:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wonder what LSB does with his power if we lynch bum :p Hey now there's something interesting. I had totally forgotten that he was dressing up using his power as bum cannon. *snorts*
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And your read on me is even more bullshit than your read on Oats geript.. You can't possibly think i am scum because i changed my mind on one of my reads. There is no fucking way you just ignore everything else i have said in this game and that sole thing makes me scum for you, even when i have clearly pointed out why my read has changed.
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EBWOP: And say that goes aginst my town meta. roflskates.
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On December 03 2013 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: What? Oats and kushmasta are quite obviously town.
Do you think gtrsrs and JonnyLaw are scum, like honestly? gtrsrs did just make a case based on completely false setup information? Like he totally faked it? JohnnyLaw does not know which player list to look into when discussing things about player-mover roles. Do you really think scum are not that aware of the setup or do you think they are faking it here?
What separates ticklish from let's say Rean? ticklish came in and this is what he did: "i had a scumread on rayn, but after 2 days of looking into his past games i don't anymore" "i don't remember why i had a scumread on him" "my townread is based on him now being abrasive, which he is as town" "i however do not mention how that is different from his scumgames while i was asked about it" "i might not post much because i wanna get to know people's playstyles before making judgement on them -> i need to read their past games first" "but kushmasta is scum, that i can say - while other people tell this is what he does as town"
and geript's push on Oats is ridiculous, he takes some aspects of Oats' play and fits them into something Oats has once done as scum. That's not meta, that's bullshit. Especially considering Oats does all those things as town.
seriously marv?
On December 03 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote: Why do you think I put them under "do not lynch"?
Hello?
On December 03 2013 20:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 20:41 sandroba wrote: I like your list, with exception of gtrs. The fact that he tried to take kasix and I believe mafia would have taken kasix pretty high is holding some weight for me. I would sub in ticklish for him. My issue with ticklish being mafia is: 1.I believe he went away and read rayn towngames. Lazy lurky mafia won't usually do this 2.He actually found inconsistency in kush's filter. Now this doesn't make kush mafia obviously, but it does mean tickling was attentive enough to notice 3.his posts have a IDGAF feel about them. Marv what is this? I had absolutely the same thoughts as rayn about gtsrs and JonnyLaw (maybe that's not very strong reasoning but it's something). Why did you not answer his questions here? Avoiding a bitchfight with him seems like a really weak excuse to me tbh. Especially since he wasn't hostile to you at all. Also finding out that rayn is aggressive as town and that kush contradicts himself are like the easiest things to achieve ever.
On December 03 2013 22:29 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On December 03 2013 21:56 geript wrote:On December 03 2013 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:I dont understand all these Kush pushes. I think Kush is scummy still regardless of meta. If a player is known for playing badly and plays badly push them for more if they're town. If not, push them get a scum read. Why are you guys so comfortable letting him sit around flinging dirt on everyone then bandwagoning whatever is convenient?
Sounds like you want to lynch kush for bad play rather than for being scum. Which one is it? What's bullshit about it is that all those geript pushes were the exact same but you were more than happy to lead the voting there. What's bullshit is that you keep talking about Oats at the expense of anything else when Oats isn't getting lynched. Shape up. There aren't other horses I like. I don't trust Oats push on LSB. Sure the Oats scum storyline makes sense, "Well I can't drop this because it's not happening because then people will instantly call me scum for not 'believing in /pushing' my plan". Sure it makes sense, but the flip side is also true as town you're likely to push that shit regardless. Also, Rayn I'm pretty sure is scum. He was a big push in the graves ban. More importantly town Rayn doesn't consider voting his early town reads. Like never and especially not D1. I think he's being opportunistic in who he's targeting. Rayn of all people? Are you for real?
On December 03 2013 12:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 12:04 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 12:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: LSB I will take you using your role tonight as a scum claim. Yo, there have been multiple people questioning whether or not I'm actually Tyr and multiple people questioned whether even if I am Tyr if my self reported damage is correct. Sitting on my role is a horrible horrible idea and the quickest way to get lynched day 2. Plus I want to kill Bum. Actually that's most of the reason This is horrible horrible reasoning for a townie. a) who cares what you are, I am of the opinion that the less information we give the scum team the better b) being concerned about getting lynched is a very scum oriented mindset, townies have nothing to fear from the lynch because they are inherently innocent, it is a scum mindset to focus on not getting lynched. c) nobody cares about how much damage you do, you took a scum role, it should never be used d) the collateral damage your role does means it should never be used to target one person Seriously LSB it's pretty clear you are not looking at this from a town angle. This is a PYP game, there are so many unknowns that the less kp townies throw around the better. The last thing I want to see is for this town to shoot itself to death while scum laugh their way to gg. You throwing kp around indiscriminately is the most blatantly anti town thing done in this thread so far. 1) I also think LSB looks reeeeeally bad. 2) I don't like the way MZ is attacking him here. He is still attacking him for his plan (a)). Point b) is simply untrue because every townie should try to not get lynched as a very high priority goal. I am unsure of what to make of this.
The more incriminating thing about LSB is his refusal to talk about anything but his crusade and that is the reason he can die.
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And why did he do that even? Why not just push for Bum lynch?
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But...but guys...I really want to kill geript.
You guys keep sitting there giving him second chances because "oh, silly Soniv, that's just how geript plays!"
He keeps making really awful posts in the noise of other discussion. Just within the night, he has these two gems:
On December 03 2013 22:29 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On December 03 2013 21:56 geript wrote:On December 03 2013 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:I dont understand all these Kush pushes. I think Kush is scummy still regardless of meta. If a player is known for playing badly and plays badly push them for more if they're town. If not, push them get a scum read. Why are you guys so comfortable letting him sit around flinging dirt on everyone then bandwagoning whatever is convenient?
Sounds like you want to lynch kush for bad play rather than for being scum. Which one is it? What's bullshit about it is that all those geript pushes were the exact same but you were more than happy to lead the voting there. What's bullshit is that you keep talking about Oats at the expense of anything else when Oats isn't getting lynched. Shape up. There aren't other horses I like. I don't trust Oats push on LSB. Sure the Oats scum storyline makes sense, "Well I can't drop this because it's not happening because then people will instantly call me scum for not 'believing in /pushing' my plan". Sure it makes sense, but the flip side is also true as town you're likely to push that shit regardless. Also, Rayn I'm pretty sure is scum. He was a big push in the graves ban. More importantly town Rayn doesn't consider voting his early town reads. Like never and especially not D1. I think he's being opportunistic in who he's targeting.
Even though he had his vote on me for a while, he doesn't mention me at all. Apparently I wasn't a good enough horse to mention at all. But then he mentions Rayn, who, in my mind, is fairly obviously town at this point.
On December 03 2013 22:49 geript wrote:Rayn's gotten in bitchfests about people voting his town reads. That's not uncommon at all. His pick is a very interesting claim too because it'll justify him being around for a few days as well (big shield for 4 phases or something). I think you're wrong obv. But can you explain the BAL scum logic. Remember to use little words because I'm stupid and bad at the game.
Noob claim, even sarcastically, is useless and just smears up any credibility he has.
As time goes on, I'm more convinced he's scum.
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I'm totally cool with killing gtrsrs at this point as well. He shows up and can get away with making really terrible posts because the spotlight has fallen off him quite a bit.
I'm still unsure on LSB - none of what he is doing makes that much sense from a town perspective, but I'm not sure he's mafia either. He is claiming Tryn - if his movement ability is used, I say he dies immediately.
Sandro, I see your case for bum, and it makes a lot of sense. I'm wary to get behind it because I'm worried that my opinion is a bit heavily influenced by OMGUS and I would be totally ok with seeing him go.
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Summary: Vote is staying on geript, I refuse to let him get away with this absolutely abysmal play. Towards the end of the day, I could get behind gtrsrs or, depending on how things develop for him, bum.
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@jat: what was the purpose of that post, aside from linking quotes from 4 different people to make it really long?
So you don't like the way M_Z is attacking LSB, but you think LSB should die. Do you think M_Z is scum?
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I can lynch any of geript, bumatlarge, ticklishmusic or Rean. Mayyybe LSB but i don't think he's scum if bum is. I just hope someone shoots ticklish and geript dead asap in case we end up lynching bum.
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On December 03 2013 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Town don't just inherently know if thier plan is shit Oats. Where do you get this stuff? Dude, you know your plan is shit when its the only thing you do the ENTIRE day 1 and people arent even doing it.
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jat, your post is pretty bad.
I did answer his questions after rayn posted again. I've been in a few games with rayn where he called me mafia because I didn't line up with his thought process, though he seems to have gotten over that which is nice.
I don't really understand why you're nitpicking at me because it should be fairly obvious I'm town by this stage, much the same as you're having a go at geript for calling rayn mafia when rayn is obviously town (which has already been done by me indeed, but you may as well do it again, right?)
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Hi guys 
Too many PoI,
Marv, pick a filter pls. (for me to read)
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I'm not going to play the game for you, Mocsta.
If you're town, play to win. I've never known you be a lazy bastard before and I don't want it to be in a game that I'm playing, your wifom excuse of enjoying playing mafia aside.
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Mocsta what do you think of Mocsta? This is a real question!
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On December 03 2013 23:39 jcarlsoniv wrote: @jat: what was the purpose of that post, aside from linking quotes from 4 different people to make it really long?
So you don't like the way M_Z is attacking LSB, but you think LSB should die. Do you think M_Z is scum? I quote posts when I reply/comment on them. Problem? I don't have any problem with posting oneliners all day (look at hogwarts for prove) so accusing me of trying to make my posts appear longer is pretty stupid.
I posted the thing about MZ because it is like this: Either LSB is scum - in this case I don't care that much about it later. Or LSB is selfish/antitown town. In this case I am suspicious of MZ later because he took the easy mislynch for the wrong reasons. I am obviously not 100% sure about LSB so I wanted to state that for now.
On December 03 2013 23:43 marvellosity wrote: jat, your post is pretty bad.
I did answer his questions after rayn posted again. I've been in a few games with rayn where he called me mafia because I didn't line up with his thought process, though he seems to have gotten over that which is nice.
I don't really understand why you're nitpicking at me because it should be fairly obvious I'm town by this stage, much the same as you're having a go at geript for calling rayn mafia when rayn is obviously town (which has already been done by me indeed, but you may as well do it again, right?) No you did not answer his questions as far as I can see. Or is this a complete answer for you (seems very generic to me)?
As always you (and others) labour under the delusion that mafia on day 1 will be "in the know". Mafia are dumb as well as town, often.
I still think it is weird for you to kinda ignore his questions and accuse him of picking a fight with you when he did not.
Yeah, I am leaning town in you for the rest of your play but I want to be sure about it because I value your reads and you ARE sneaky so why shouldn't I ask if I see something I don't like from you?
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Anyways will be back in ~ 2,5 hours.
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tbh marv is not that sneaky as scum.
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I don't even know what jat's issue is so I'm just going to ignore it. I explained myself and jat just repeated what he already said. It can wait anyways.
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JAT's read on LSB is really weird. LSB looks really bad but MZ is scummy for attacking someone who looks really bad? And his points for MZ being scummy. 1. Attacking LSB for his plan cause its the only fucking thing he has done the whole game. 2. Townies dont FIRST think, oh I should try not to get lynched, let me confirm myself. Townies think, hey is he scum? Lets lynch him.
His read on LSB seems to make it easy for him to jump on and off the wagon depending on what happens later. Meh/bad.
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