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On November 29 2013 11:45 Bereft wrote:I totally missed this earlier: Show nested quote +On November 26 2013 18:06 Mocsta wrote:On November 26 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote:On November 26 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:On November 26 2013 17:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok you spoiler it. I dont get why you spoil it. Really feels like you are trying to hide shit. dont even say I say its ok for him to change his reads but not you, you have done it MULTIPLE TIMES, I even say you can change your reads but you do 3 magical rereads and change your reads from scum to town and town to scum each time with no reasons given on alot of them, or only one liners. Also his reads come at a point, the his reads change once and not again like you suggest. He says he will consolidate but never takes his read back. He left himself outs you say, but he never used them. He kept his story. And aqua was confirmation biased he thought you were town, didnt have a read on jamp who tunneled him. He read over your case andddnt fact check it so you bringing up a confirmed town agreed with you means nothing. LOl.. so you are comparing the filter of a Day1 lurker; or a Day3 active.. and then suggesting that the Day1 lurker changes his mind less?.. no shit sherlock Aqua was C.B'd lol? Is that how you justify your position now? Spoilering posts means I want to hide stuff --> Scummy LOL... Let me know when you are ready to stop changing up your story Yeah remember that part about not responding to you or cora, we arent getting anywhere. And Im not going to keep shitting up the thread with you. I know you are going to try to use onegu wasnt reading, onegu doesnt know what he was talking about when I flip, Im guess its the first post you make after I flip. You are the one who brought up Aqua a confirmed townie agreeing with your case, I am showimg why that doesnt mean anything when it comes to that townie haveing a town read on you, at minumum a null read on jamp, and the case is about jamp haveing a scum read on aqua. blszinghand Scumslips do exist. We are in MYLO. Note how onegu refers to me using his filter after he flips. We got ourselves here scum boys n girls. funny how HF made the exact same mistake. Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 11:11 Onegu wrote:On November 28 2013 11:02 Holyflare wrote:
Funny how bereft is "afk till 20 mins before deadline" though,
##Unvote
##Vote Bereft Im still thinking if he is newb enough to do the claim as town. I am leaning against it. But doubt we will get enoughto switch onto him but lets give it a go and see what happens, if no one else switches I will hammer you though as if we go another day it will be lylo with the same wagons in me and you with no one else willing to change and that gets us no where. ##UNVOTE
##VOTE BEREFT the fact that he's willing to hammer HF even though he suspects me pretty much confirms it -- an onegu lynch day 4 a no-brainer. and i did promise that the first scum to vote HF would be spared for last, so it's only fair. now it's just a matter of confirming slammer is town. slammer! what is this? a confession?? Show nested quote +On November 27 2013 14:25 Alakaslam wrote:On November 27 2013 14:24 Bereft wrote:
holy is scum. cora is town.
alright public announcement. listen up scummers:
whoever piles on first onto the HF train will be saved for last. Well I'm already there.
i feel pretty good about chezinu being the last scum; this is probably massive WIFOM, but when it becomes clear to HF he'll be lynched, suddenly chezinu becomes one of his scum reads (along with me + cora) and he even writes a case on it. i just don't think he'd have his final scum reads be 3 townies and bother to write a long case on a townie when he's moments from flipping red. also, rean's filter is more townie than jampi's in my opinion.Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 11:28 Holyflare wrote:Also, in regards to chezinu, he is purposefully manipulating information to fit his style: On November 28 2013 00:00 Chezinu wrote:Holyflare. The light of the first dawn. I, Chezinu the Godfather of our beloved family, have declared thee unworthy to dwell among our presence., 1. You have broken the Chezinu Rule 2. You have lied to the family. 3. You have left the family for another. 4. You have been condemned by the Wisdom of the Dead. ##Vote Holyflare+ Show Spoiler +1. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't need an explanation 2. + Show Spoiler +3. + Show Spoiler +4. + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2013 12:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Why didn't Holys flavor say (medic) in parenthesis like mine and rayns say (vanilla townie)? On November 26 2013 11:58 Aquanim wrote:(A lot of this has been said already since I wrote a fair bit of it last night. But you can have it anyway.) Who to lynch tomorrow? My preference is Chezinu or Onegu. I'm pretty sure both of them are in the scumteam along with one of Holyflare/Alakaslam. The case on Jampidampi by Mocsta and the "scumslip" picked up by Thrawn is probably as close to a read on Chezinu as we're going to get, especially if Thrawn dies (since I'm pretty sure none of the rest of us have much prior experience with Chez). May as well flip that coin sooner rather than later. As for Onegu, this last tossup with Corazon has finally broken my credulity in just how few damns Onegu gives about this game. I honestly don't think there's any way he can have thought those two posts by Corazon were at the 2-hour mark if he's seriously analysing this game. His cases on Bereft and Mocsta could easily have been written by scum just pulling out post after post after post from their filters and saying the first damning-sounding thing which comes to mind. And while I was fooled by Onegu's indignation yesterday, I've been fooled by Onegu playing dumb before (see Newbie 43). I don't intend to let it happen again. You can lynch Onegu first to satisfy Corazon, if you like. As for Holyflare:
- I have never seen him angry as town, but that's the vibe I'm getting here
- I have never seen him this disinterested as town. Read page 4 of his filter, compare it to any town game he's played in the past, and tell me that this is a town Holyflare who is genuinely interested in pushing a lynch
- He could claim to save somebody who aren't the two who scum kills. In that case, use your judgement.
- Sure he hasn't played like this as scum before, but there's no reason to change his town meta into this and plenty of reason to change his scum meta (replaced into a scum team with lurkers, just plain doesn't want to even try to contribute)
A quick aside re. Holyflare+ Show Spoiler +If there's a save tonight obviously don't lynch Holy tomorrow, but still keep him on your radar. His play so far this game has been COMPLETELY unlike his town play, and maybe this is the scum team trying to protect Holy. It would explain their motive for having him claim in the first place. It does give us another mislynch so I think it would be poor play, but my opinion is hardly going to stop them... maybe, MAYBE he'll get off his ass and contribute now that the weekend's over. But I think he's just scum. (Having difficulty reconciling that with the doctor claim, but... frankly that doctor claim was a f***ing awful idea whatever his alignment, so I guess it being risky as scum isn't scum-indiciative.) Alakaslam I still gotta think about. If I die you're probably better off considering what he posts tomorrow rather than whatever thoughts I have now anyway. In the light of this claim I have no idea who scum will shoot. If they shoot me, good luck - you're gonna need it. (tl;dr I agree with sciberbia and mocsta, {Holyflare // Rean, Chezinu (jampi), Onegu}) Last-minute additions:Corazon's cop claim... gah. I don't see the point if he's scum. But damn it why did you claim so long before deadline? If the scum have a framer we could be led entirely up the garden path. I hope he's planning to check someone who isn't Onegu and was just claiming that to lead scum astray. I'd far prefer to see a check on Chezinu or even Holyflare than Onegu. Given how hard Corazon bashed on Holy for his claim I have hopes that Corazon has plans he hasn't revealed yet. He uses 4 reasons for his read based vote on me. The first he implies does not work if the person knows what the Chezinu rule is, yet here it is as 25% of his intention for a vote. Therefore 1/4 of his reasoning is factually incorrect. He says that a fake claim is another reason. My claim of vet is the truth so that is reasoning number 2 that is wrong, if i were to fake claim a role I wouldn't know how to do it because I don't know what the other roles would look like. It would be perfectly written because scum get fake claims, he has no mention of this. 50% factually incorrect His third point is because I like the colour blue.........? 75% useless Finally, he mentions the wisdom of the dead but uses incorrect logic from dead people's posts to do it. Aquanim stated that he has never seen me disinterested as town but did chezinu bother to fact check this at all? There is no mention of this so he must have done. Therefore he also read my scum game (hogwarts) where I most certainly was not disinterested either. He then uses JarJar's mention of my claim. Doctor was a fake claim and so of course JarJar was correct. However, vet was not my fake claim and he makes no mention of this either. 100% useless Chez purposefully misleads all of you in the attempt to look like he is one of the town group. He uses useless information that is clearly not fact checked to mislead you into thinking he is doing work. His playstyle is based on reads and as you don't know what his reads are at the time you do not know what alignment he is playing for. He has claimed GF (blue town role) but came under no scrutiny from bereft for this, no mention at all even though bereft's entire reasoning was that there can't be 3 blue roles which he claimed was his only reason for attacking me. Chezinu, Bereft. Scum team.
I am looking at this and liking it, however, Chezinu flipped town.
Mocsta has laid down a pretty strong case for Cora and HF not being scum together, so either you were wrong there or you are scum...
But seeing how this was wrong, maybe Mocsta has a flaw in that same comparison. But I have seen CONF bias and I'm not gonna fall for it. Mocsta could be epic scum for all we know ATM, it's just most likely not the case (as with bereft, sciberia, I wish me)
There is a lot of uncertainty out there and I think the thread shouldn't be as dead as it is...
+ Show Spoiler +(Read in GLaDOS voice)
...hello? Hello?
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On November 30 2013 16:25 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:On November 29 2013 11:45 Bereft wrote:I totally missed this earlier: On November 26 2013 18:06 Mocsta wrote:On November 26 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote:On November 26 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:On November 26 2013 17:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok you spoiler it. I dont get why you spoil it. Really feels like you are trying to hide shit. dont even say I say its ok for him to change his reads but not you, you have done it MULTIPLE TIMES, I even say you can change your reads but you do 3 magical rereads and change your reads from scum to town and town to scum each time with no reasons given on alot of them, or only one liners. Also his reads come at a point, the his reads change once and not again like you suggest. He says he will consolidate but never takes his read back. He left himself outs you say, but he never used them. He kept his story. And aqua was confirmation biased he thought you were town, didnt have a read on jamp who tunneled him. He read over your case andddnt fact check it so you bringing up a confirmed town agreed with you means nothing. LOl.. so you are comparing the filter of a Day1 lurker; or a Day3 active.. and then suggesting that the Day1 lurker changes his mind less?.. no shit sherlock Aqua was C.B'd lol? Is that how you justify your position now? Spoilering posts means I want to hide stuff --> Scummy LOL... Let me know when you are ready to stop changing up your story Yeah remember that part about not responding to you or cora, we arent getting anywhere. And Im not going to keep shitting up the thread with you. I know you are going to try to use onegu wasnt reading, onegu doesnt know what he was talking about when I flip, Im guess its the first post you make after I flip. You are the one who brought up Aqua a confirmed townie agreeing with your case, I am showimg why that doesnt mean anything when it comes to that townie haveing a town read on you, at minumum a null read on jamp, and the case is about jamp haveing a scum read on aqua. blszinghand Scumslips do exist. We are in MYLO. Note how onegu refers to me using his filter after he flips. We got ourselves here scum boys n girls. funny how HF made the exact same mistake. On November 28 2013 11:11 Onegu wrote:On November 28 2013 11:02 Holyflare wrote:
Funny how bereft is "afk till 20 mins before deadline" though,
##Unvote
##Vote Bereft Im still thinking if he is newb enough to do the claim as town. I am leaning against it. But doubt we will get enoughto switch onto him but lets give it a go and see what happens, if no one else switches I will hammer you though as if we go another day it will be lylo with the same wagons in me and you with no one else willing to change and that gets us no where. ##UNVOTE
##VOTE BEREFT the fact that he's willing to hammer HF even though he suspects me pretty much confirms it -- an onegu lynch day 4 a no-brainer. and i did promise that the first scum to vote HF would be spared for last, so it's only fair. now it's just a matter of confirming slammer is town. slammer! what is this? a confession?? On November 27 2013 14:25 Alakaslam wrote:On November 27 2013 14:24 Bereft wrote:
holy is scum. cora is town.
alright public announcement. listen up scummers:
whoever piles on first onto the HF train will be saved for last. Well I'm already there.
i feel pretty good about chezinu being the last scum; this is probably massive WIFOM, but when it becomes clear to HF he'll be lynched, suddenly chezinu becomes one of his scum reads (along with me + cora) and he even writes a case on it. i just don't think he'd have his final scum reads be 3 townies and bother to write a long case on a townie when he's moments from flipping red. also, rean's filter is more townie than jampi's in my opinion.On November 28 2013 11:28 Holyflare wrote:Also, in regards to chezinu, he is purposefully manipulating information to fit his style: On November 28 2013 00:00 Chezinu wrote:Holyflare. The light of the first dawn. I, Chezinu the Godfather of our beloved family, have declared thee unworthy to dwell among our presence., 1. You have broken the Chezinu Rule 2. You have lied to the family. 3. You have left the family for another. 4. You have been condemned by the Wisdom of the Dead. ##Vote Holyflare+ Show Spoiler +1. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't need an explanation 2. + Show Spoiler +3. + Show Spoiler +4. + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2013 12:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Why didn't Holys flavor say (medic) in parenthesis like mine and rayns say (vanilla townie)? On November 26 2013 11:58 Aquanim wrote:(A lot of this has been said already since I wrote a fair bit of it last night. But you can have it anyway.) Who to lynch tomorrow? My preference is Chezinu or Onegu. I'm pretty sure both of them are in the scumteam along with one of Holyflare/Alakaslam. The case on Jampidampi by Mocsta and the "scumslip" picked up by Thrawn is probably as close to a read on Chezinu as we're going to get, especially if Thrawn dies (since I'm pretty sure none of the rest of us have much prior experience with Chez). May as well flip that coin sooner rather than later. As for Onegu, this last tossup with Corazon has finally broken my credulity in just how few damns Onegu gives about this game. I honestly don't think there's any way he can have thought those two posts by Corazon were at the 2-hour mark if he's seriously analysing this game. His cases on Bereft and Mocsta could easily have been written by scum just pulling out post after post after post from their filters and saying the first damning-sounding thing which comes to mind. And while I was fooled by Onegu's indignation yesterday, I've been fooled by Onegu playing dumb before (see Newbie 43). I don't intend to let it happen again. You can lynch Onegu first to satisfy Corazon, if you like. As for Holyflare:
- I have never seen him angry as town, but that's the vibe I'm getting here
- I have never seen him this disinterested as town. Read page 4 of his filter, compare it to any town game he's played in the past, and tell me that this is a town Holyflare who is genuinely interested in pushing a lynch
- He could claim to save somebody who aren't the two who scum kills. In that case, use your judgement.
- Sure he hasn't played like this as scum before, but there's no reason to change his town meta into this and plenty of reason to change his scum meta (replaced into a scum team with lurkers, just plain doesn't want to even try to contribute)
A quick aside re. Holyflare+ Show Spoiler +If there's a save tonight obviously don't lynch Holy tomorrow, but still keep him on your radar. His play so far this game has been COMPLETELY unlike his town play, and maybe this is the scum team trying to protect Holy. It would explain their motive for having him claim in the first place. It does give us another mislynch so I think it would be poor play, but my opinion is hardly going to stop them... maybe, MAYBE he'll get off his ass and contribute now that the weekend's over. But I think he's just scum. (Having difficulty reconciling that with the doctor claim, but... frankly that doctor claim was a f***ing awful idea whatever his alignment, so I guess it being risky as scum isn't scum-indiciative.) Alakaslam I still gotta think about. If I die you're probably better off considering what he posts tomorrow rather than whatever thoughts I have now anyway. In the light of this claim I have no idea who scum will shoot. If they shoot me, good luck - you're gonna need it. (tl;dr I agree with sciberbia and mocsta, {Holyflare // Rean, Chezinu (jampi), Onegu}) Last-minute additions:Corazon's cop claim... gah. I don't see the point if he's scum. But damn it why did you claim so long before deadline? If the scum have a framer we could be led entirely up the garden path. I hope he's planning to check someone who isn't Onegu and was just claiming that to lead scum astray. I'd far prefer to see a check on Chezinu or even Holyflare than Onegu. Given how hard Corazon bashed on Holy for his claim I have hopes that Corazon has plans he hasn't revealed yet. He uses 4 reasons for his read based vote on me. The first he implies does not work if the person knows what the Chezinu rule is, yet here it is as 25% of his intention for a vote. Therefore 1/4 of his reasoning is factually incorrect. He says that a fake claim is another reason. My claim of vet is the truth so that is reasoning number 2 that is wrong, if i were to fake claim a role I wouldn't know how to do it because I don't know what the other roles would look like. It would be perfectly written because scum get fake claims, he has no mention of this. 50% factually incorrect His third point is because I like the colour blue.........? 75% useless Finally, he mentions the wisdom of the dead but uses incorrect logic from dead people's posts to do it. Aquanim stated that he has never seen me disinterested as town but did chezinu bother to fact check this at all? There is no mention of this so he must have done. Therefore he also read my scum game (hogwarts) where I most certainly was not disinterested either. He then uses JarJar's mention of my claim. Doctor was a fake claim and so of course JarJar was correct. However, vet was not my fake claim and he makes no mention of this either. 100% useless Chez purposefully misleads all of you in the attempt to look like he is one of the town group. He uses useless information that is clearly not fact checked to mislead you into thinking he is doing work. His playstyle is based on reads and as you don't know what his reads are at the time you do not know what alignment he is playing for. He has claimed GF (blue town role) but came under no scrutiny from bereft for this, no mention at all even though bereft's entire reasoning was that there can't be 3 blue roles which he claimed was his only reason for attacking me. Chezinu, Bereft. Scum team. I am looking at this and liking it, however, Chezinu flipped town. Mocsta has laid down a pretty strong case for Cora and HF not being scum together, so either you were wrong there or you are scum...But seeing how this was wrong, maybe Mocsta has a flaw in that same comparison. But I have seen CONF bias and I'm not gonna fall for it. Mocsta could be epic scum for all we know ATM, it's just most likely not the case (as with bereft, sciberia, I wish me) There is a lot of uncertainty out there and I think the thread shouldn't be as dead as it is... + Show Spoiler +(Read in GLaDOS voice)
...hello? Hello? hmm. it's funny you like that bolded bit. because i was about to retract it after i wrote it pre- the night post for being horrible WIFOM / logix, but i couldn't be bothered because while i didn't like the means, i stood by the end conclusion (that chez was scum). can you expand on what you mean by that bolded part above? how does mocsta's case on why cora must be town relate to my bad logic on why chezinu was scum?
I like this, in that it isn't scummy, but it's either wrong or you are scum.
You don't see the point that makes? Just the one you just made.
In other words, I am liking you for town, but I'm not sure I would follow you too readily.
I am going to filter the first oblige for a while, but AMA I am on for a bit.
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I was gonna Unvote but now we are consolidating...
Cora, old Mocsta looks bad enough but so do I. I dislike looking at people from the perspective that they are scum, it's like purposely getting confirmation bias.
Couple that with new Mocsta and I say, don't. I think he is on the right track, I also admit I was generally ignoring sciberia as established town (much like ignoring bereft; I mean not filter diving looking for scum). May be time to do that!
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Sciberbia
What did that claim do. You should have just used the power, now scum is guaranteed shoot you. It's now do or die or you.
Then again that was already the case...
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On December 03 2013 12:12 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 12:09 Mocsta wrote:
Another thing that annoyed me was the thread dying both times I wasn't here.
Like I was the only person that filter dived holyflare and chezinu.
This is unacceptable. the sad part is that I would have voted scib and slam (last of course - he played along the best)... I still don't get he motive behind cDgCorazon. Can't wait to hear the explanation.
I am over the moon with this post good sir
Dude I had no Idea we won is that bad
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On December 03 2013 12:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Highlights from my QT, I won't share everything some of it was purely venting / something to write at since the analysts couldn't be my ears.
ObviousOnePerson was signed in when posted
11-21-2013
12:46 PM ET (US)
Okay so I can't really share my thoughts in the Analysts QT/Skype conversation so I will write them here. First thing: Rayn is going full retard with this "my town flip will confirm Mocsta and Bereft are scum". a) I know it's wrong by virtue of being co-host which is useless analysis but leads to point b. b)He goads people to vote for him, then uses different heuristics to gauge who/how people vote for him. There's no central theme to this except that he did something ridiculous and used that as the basis (what seems to be part meta, part Mocsta-logic (see TL Noir)) but really all traces back to him making a stupid move to begin with. The basis for that move? "No real opposition to the Rean lynch"
Let's fact check that for a moment. Oh look, Aquanim is also at 4 votes. So 8 of 12 votes accounted for, and he's blaming what could potentially be called general bad town play -- nobody is discussing why Rean is a bad lynch, or why Aquanim is a bad lynch, simply stating so in absolutes -- on the fact that it's a mislynch and "doing something about it" entitles him do this whacky move and use what he knows as a town lynch as leverage to lynch two other people.
What he doesn't know is that Bereft has a claim at his hands which he may or may not divulge unless he's seriously on the chopping block, and he's doing a great job at scum hunting so far from what I've seen despite not having a commanding thread presence. Mocsta (besides nailing two scum so far, I believe) is playing this pretty level-headed in comparison and pushing for Rayn's lynch for his actions is reasonable; at times I think it's almost necessary to lynch Rayn just for this move entirely.
Other than that, there were 5 votes on scum today and suddenly at this stage there are ZERO and it all traces back to Rayn's stunt.
ObviousOnePerson was signed in when posted
11-23-2013
05:20 AM ET (US)
Cora wants to know if Jampi will be modkilled. Confirmed mad.
No. Not responding to question. Jampi still fine. I he fails to post/vote for D2 then we shall see. Only rule he is breaking is GMarshal specific tidbit regarding activity being more than minimum and that's spelled out clearly enough.
Bereft doing it right going after the claimed doctor. They think someone else is doc so he will have to make it good in case he gets up for lynch. Counter-claim could be weird considering it's a protect on scum. Hopefully he spelled out a town read d1/n1.
Mafia getting town reads for really simple reasons / heuristics is kind of weird. Works in this environment considering the tumultuous day 1.
Thrawn especially guilty of above at this point. He's hiding his vote so maybe I'm wrong on that.
"bad aftertaste" I detest this for no rational reason because it's not a rational argument.
ObviousOnePerson was signed in when posted
11-24-2013
12:41 AM ET (US)
jampi down from the attitude /behavior of townies and has asked to be replaced
apparently one of the scum team is MIA as well.
nobody responding to my request for replacements so there might be two modkills today, I'll leave it up to GM hopefully he'll be back from MLG by deadline.
raynpelikoneet
11-23-2013
08:42 PM ET (US)
FUCKING IDIOTS THERE IS NO WAY HF IS SCUM!
Rayn now 0/6 on reads, I think the only scum he has called is Rean and he doesn't seem to be talking about rean at all in the obs qt. Maybe he needs a break from mafia if he's getting all worked up when he's already dead... just saying.
ObviousOnePerson was signed in when posted
11-25-2013
08:38 AM ET (US)
As far as I know nobody else needs replacing. (rean) never got back to me hopefully nothing bad happened to him just tried checking in to see if he was okay and heard nothing back.
Super hard to not troll the analysts. Thankfully my Internet cut out for hours at a time.
Love how Chez has nailed 2 scum already and nobody realized it.
Thrawn vs Cora thing needs to die in a fire hopefully they have worked it out. Cora may need some interpersonal coaching (I'll take some lessons too) to get along with people in mafia.
You are so beautiful to me
Then I stopped writing stuff in the QT. Town did enough infighting that mafia just had to stand around nodding and gently prodding, if that was even necessary. The fake claim last night from scib was weird but I put my HEART AND SOUL INTO IT GODDAMNIT READ THAT GORGEOUS FLAVOR TEXT ABOUT A POLISH GUY that had absolutely no bearing on the game but was super fun to write.
RE: Replacements
Jampi replaced out based on how he was treated in-game, I think GMarshal will be talking about this.
Rean was ill and forgot about the game while trying to get better.
Lonemeow ended up getting offered extra hours at work and took them thus replacing out.
INDEED
 CHEZINU
I fear him as scum
If slam is in game with chezinu be prepared for :O from alakafish
I knowest not how but I seek the way. . .
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no ack why you all write so fast
I can't keep up and I'm even on my laptop for once now
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On December 03 2013 12:27 Rean wrote:
Sorry for the inactivity guys, was feeling out of it and figured I'd be okay if I skipped the first 24 hours of day but ended up forgetting about it entirely ._.
Also, I really dislike being scum, I felt so damn pressured and paniced anytime anyone even mentioned me. Thank god for Rayn <3 (please don't hate me now)
no no on thank you you are the best
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On December 03 2013 12:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
need to not take acid during the middle of a mafia game.. maybe i would have been less eager to town read everyone for no reason
I've talked about why I'm bad for lynching rayn in the obs qt..
I think my other biggest problem was letting Corazon get on my nerves. I stopped caring during D2. I knew Cor was town... but what should I do in that situation? I didn't feel like there was any action I could take other than lynching Onegu that wouldn't end up with Corazon interrupting every single conversation I tried to start.
I wrote a lot more than this but it became more and more about other people instead of myself so I will stop here for now. I'll continue after... after the flames of passion have died down.
then I don't need to take acid to be on aci-
DUDE KUSHMASTA YOU SEE THIS? BRIAN ENO
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On December 03 2013 12:51 Chezinu wrote:
Slam, you were right in the scum qt. I would have known if you would have switched votes to save HF -- good play. The truth is I was being selfish. We both knew if the other die, the other would get lynched since we both replaced. That was a good argument you made early in the thread. Despite you copying my replacement methods to act as town, I chose the brown. So, I decided to ignore you at first and live til it was time for me to die after the Day of The Brown.
Chezinu instills fear in the scum alakaslam
deep fear
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On December 03 2013 13:04 Chezinu wrote:
The truth... I didn't really read the thread... so, I don't really have much post-analysis. I just did reactionary reads like I said. Based reads on breaking Chezinu Rule and contradictions in statements.
Ditto the bold
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On December 03 2013 13:41 Bereft wrote:moc, why aren't i on your list? 
![[image loading]](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/pokemon-blue-version/d/dd/Ditto.gif)
Always ditto
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Caught up.
Basically, I rode high on Rean smallishness and replacing so I apologize for the abuse because scum apologize.
My postgame analysis: I am unskilled, I go to read House of Chezinu a few times
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On December 03 2013 18:08 sciberbia wrote:One thing I'd like some advice on is how to look townie in the first 4 hours of the game. Almost every game I play it seems someone calls me scummy based off my posts in the first 4 hours. And that was the only point at which I was under any serious pressure this game. I see a few different ways to play it: - talk about the setup
- make a hello post and then lurk
- try to FORCE scumhunting even if not much to go on (what I did this game)
- troll
- post nothing at all
Talking about the setup is somewhat productive IMO but people always call me scum for it. Making a hello post and then lurking is generally seen as scummy. When I try to force scumhunting people get mad that my cases are somewhat weak (what do you expect it's 2 hours into the game). I really dislike trolling at the start of the game. I find it really unproductive for town. I've never tried just saying nothing at all and making my first post later. It just doesn't sit right with me. I never actively lurk as town. Furthermore, someone has to find a way to generate discussion so who am I to make somebody else do it. Thoughts?
If I told you you would know every time I was scum
Lol jk.
Basically, try to correct mistakes and point out logic flaws, add your own logic.
My problem is, that is basically all I know how todo as town.
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EPT
