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QUOTE]On November 21 2013 02:44 Mocsta wrote:
Interesting tidbit to shit-stir

in 3 newbies vonthin was town....
suddenly replaces out with no posts

Ok my internet has been out all day and is just now back on and it goes in and out.

My mocsta Case. I have already said my piece on his post restriction and alot on his early day one play so I am going to continue from there on out.

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These are just a few of mocstas scum hunting, yes this is null but there are many more I just keep getting the feeling that he is feigning alot of his reads and making posts like this to up his post count and look active.




We also keep getting post like this all through the game, mocsta really like trying to make friends with thrawn, seems really fake way to buddy buddy someone who is town and who I consider to be one of the the stronger players in the game.





I also want to point out this post and a few more that follow it or come right before this post, this is important because this is one of the main reasons why he was fine to policy lynch rayn. Even in this post we have a good town atmosphere but he takes a dig at me WTF. If the atmosphere is so go why does he need to take a dig at me it just doesn't make sense, Im not the type of person to take the bait but if I was he could then say he was ok to policy lynch me because I attacked him. Here are a few posts right around this post also only from mocsta, not to mention corazon.

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But this all is a great town atmosphere and this is just from mocsta himself. And look how he keeps taking shots at me. Almost same with cora later but I will get to him in a bit in my next case.

Now Im going to get to the meat and potatoes of why mocsta is scum.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435582&currentpage=8#159

Ok I want you to open up the spoiled part, and look at his reads. I know bear with me and do it. He has Sciberia and Cora as scum, because of their interactions with each other, and because of scum slips keep this scum slips in mind it comes up much later. In this post he also has bereft as scum for trying to break the town circle. Also he multiple times gives Aqua a town read and Rean a town read.




Now he is asked if he thinks Cora and Scib are bussing each other. Look at his very evasive answer. Im not saying anything, I said exactly what I meant to say. He never answers the question just gives a glib answer for it.





Now somehow he is tunneled on Rean after giving him a town read 3 posts ago.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435582&currentpage=10#189


Now he magically does a reread and his reads flip all which way. Cora becomes town for his interactions with Aqua/rean

Sciberia becomes null, for consistency

And Aqua becomes scum.

Now yes people are allowed to change their reads that is fine, but as you will see mocsta does it often and with little reason or no reason.




Here he says Cora's case on Sciberia was bad, but he is town for it. Later he will say the exact opposite for voting Cora. And Rean is scummy for answering his questions but not giving good answers that weren't more than one or two lines. Thrawn is Obv Town



Votes Aqua for Thrawns reason. Sure he gave his own reasons on why Aqua is scum go read them I quoted them, tell me if you think they are legit reasons or not.




A few posts later from where he calls cora town for his bad case now he cant see a pro town reason for it.




Soft defends Rean here.




Likes a post from Jamp.




Here he unvotes Aqua because he likes how he didnt push me. But somehow he ignores the possibility that we could be scum together. Why because he knows we arent. This unvote reason it terrible.





But here is also where it gets interesting, He gives town reads for Rayn, Bereft, , Aqua, me, and cora.

His scum reads are Sciberia, Rean, and Jamp. Before this he has had rean as a town read, Sciberia as null, and Jamp as he liked his posts. The only reason he gives for these read changes are mine and he doesnt see me doing what I did as scum.

And Aqua who he had as scum for a long time and had just unvoted. His reason? Open and Transparent



Still no reasons



This is the only reason he gives for his scum reads and atually read it. It is mostly meta, and promoting a negative thread attitude, but read his filter he isnt doing that at all, and it is subjective if he is or isnt any way not a reason to call someone scum.




A few posts later his reads change once again.

Rayn no longer town, Scib no longer scum even though that was the only person he gave a reason for being scum, Cora goes from town to Scum. Scib is town because of a intereaction with Aqua, Rayn for a vote, and cora goes from town to scum, because he accuses his attackers, refuses to answer questions even though he does this again later and mocsta doesnt give him a scum read then.







Here is where mocsta says he is ok with a HF lynch, but he gives no reason for it. He then votes rayn because rayn Martyred.



Now jamp is scum with rayn. And his reason was jamp is holding on to the aqua thing when he let something go before. I have no idea how a few posts before jamp wasmt in your scum reads to scum partners with rayn because he follows up on Aquanim. The reasons mocsta gives for people being scum juat arent real reasons.





Rayn drops his vote on jamp, mocsta who then has a scum read on jamp and who thinks is scumates with rayn, defends him calling his meta the same as his town meta for tunneling, which is what mocsta called him scum for doing on Aqua. Yes he says hes not 100% certain and it is ok to defend your scum read if you dont believe the reason they are being attacked by someone else, but mocsta called him scum because he was tunneled on Aqua. He gives meta reasons why he could be town for the same thing mocsta called him scum for.





Before this post he after defending jamp with meta, then again makeing like some kinda joke post where he talks about rayn and Jamp in scum qt talking. He doesnt take back his jamp scum read but as you will see he takes jamp off of his lynch canidate.


He shows his lynch list here again. Rean we have no idea what, HF for no idea why, and Rayn.
And I dont understand why he asks cora the whole thing about staying by his scum read or lynching for info






Im not saying this is a scum slip but there is no reason to post this



Ok my notes on bereft gives mocsta reason to give bereft a scum read if it is true.



This is telling, he is ok to lynch bereft this cycle if what I say is true. But more importantly look what he says to thrawn when thrawn talks about looking to see if it is a town rayn.

He isnt set if rayn is town or scum, just asking him questions while thinking about motive, but rayn still needs lynched, this just isnt something a townie says.





Mocsta has me as a town (well not scum) read at this point, so he is ok saying this but he hugely contridicts himself in a moment.



Now before he even checks my facts, he gives big town points to bereft.





I dont understand the point of this post, obviously refuseing to believe doesnt make it true, I was sleeping. Amd I really dont like people calling out other people who cant be here around deadline, it happens deal with it.




This post I dont like how he says call me scummy if you want, for this type of post I dont see why town would write this.

Also now he changes his stance, from its not malicious to onegu looks bad. And remember the whole I could lynch bereft this cycle. He didnt look until someone pointed out we had more time than 15min. He wasnt got to even look.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435582&currentpage=47#936


This is where he digs up the bereft things but conviently leaves out the post that links this all together. And now since I am misrepresenting bereft I am scum.




Here is where he calls for policy, the same thing I pointed out with bereft, you are gunho on rayn is scum rayn is scum vote the scum, then all of a sudden you hide behind policy? Why do you feel you need to do this? The reason to say when rayn flips town, see im not sorry it was policy.



The part he fails to mention is his reads on those players change, and he never explains those reads.






More town reads, but now I am scum, and I fanned the flames. Now I wasnt around so what flames did I fan? I dont understand this. He is making shit up for me to look bad that is what is going on.





More read changes this time me and HF are scum. No reason on HF other than in a previous post I cant believe HF believes what he is writeing. And he compares something rean did in this game, to something I did in a different game to make rean look scummy. How can he believe what he is writeing?


Look he calls out HF here for being like rayn and saying scumslip. Its stupid play. I direct you to the first post I put in my meat and potatoes part and open the spoiler and what do you see? Thats right mocsta saying cora and scib scumslipped. And rayn flipped town so calling out HF for this is so scummy, maybe he forgot he did it or thought people wouldnt see because hespoiled it, but I saw, I found it.




Oh yes this post, my favorite. JJD is still town. Bereft he doesnt know, but bereft did the same thing mocsta did the same thing with rany is scum, rayn is scum, its a policy lynch. And me ONEGU IS SCUM turned into onegu provided the missing piece on bereft but that is null because of formatting, into slight town read, with no explination at all... And then how in the hell did I ask him for forgivness? It hurts my head. Lynch mocsta please he is scum.




Now he votes Jamp who was out of his scum team only a few posts ago, and his reasoning? There are scum in the actives but they can be figured out, and his tunnel on aqua, but when rayn voted him he provided meta defense this is town meta and that that wasnt enough to warrwnt a vote.

MOCSTA IS SCUM





Now he says he didnt think rayn was scum it was all policy, nope thats a lie called him scum all the way up then last few minutes said policy.


Please show me these reasons and the numerous times please



Now I am full town yay!!!



No more Jamp, no to take sciberia from his town pile into his vote. And check out these awesome reasons bad case (subjective) defended the guy who flipped town, and defending the person his scum read made a case on. Such scummy reasons not sure why Im not voteing for scib.




Omg he goes from sciberia who was a town read as his vote, to JJD who was a town read and check out these reasons he delurked and thats it.

Also now I went from town to he could vote me, and rean still not sure why he wants to vote rean since day 1...




Two posts later, HF is the best lych


Now he believes the doc claim....




Makes a case on JJD and then this.

Mocsta cant keep his story straight. Ever. He jumps from reads to reads but mever makes a case, we never know why his reads change and the little reasons he does give are utter BS.

Vote Mocsta.