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On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens.
So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote.
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On November 23 2013 14:15 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 13:56 cDgCorazon wrote:
Also Mocsta, I'm tired of you picking on me. You've been waffling on your read about me. Either make the fucking case or hold your tongue. I was posting stuff that stuck out as I was reading. Using analogies isn't scummy. Its when you dont use them and suddenly decide to. im specifically referencing "sharks were circling rayn" I dunno where my read on you sits; smoethings are good, somethings are bad. This probably means you are town, but im not confident. low priority to me regardless.
Unfortunately the correct play is to leave HolyFlare alone. It is possible scum was RB or Delay KP. If Delay KP, its self-confirming. --> ezpz lynch later If RB, its odd play and the claim was made pre-lynch; suggesting its real. Absolutely dumb ass claim regardless.
##Vote: jampidampi*Maybe there is scum in the actives, but they can be figured out. Guys like this guy are too unknown. Early cycle is our best opportunity to put pressure. I have had an issue with him ever since he had the mindset to declare Corazon could be emotionally tunneled and then proceeding to tunnel aquanim over semantics. Because, I dont think he knows corazon that well, so the call emotional tunnel suggests he is highly analytical. This doesnt sit well with the lack of analytics with aquanim. I'm off again /ciao
Really your vote goes on a lurker because you cant figure him out? So you go with a policy lynch day one followed by a lurker lynch because there isnt enough info to go on. I guess this is just a pressure vote but still.
Also not sure what cora is doing this game. Im going to fill out my notebook, and be right back with my mocsta and bereft case, and yes I will go over things in my cases other people have already pointed out get over it.
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On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum.
Im going to respond to this one more time, I have a town read on someone who I have started to feel real REAL comfortable in reading, I need to sleep and its almost 3am, I dont think I will be awake for deadline. Rayn my town read has 7 votes on him already and majority, everyone else has 1 or 0 votes on them. If you are town what do you do. EXACTLY what I did you vote your top scum read.
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On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far.
I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already.
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On November 23 2013 15:12 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 14:50 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 10:47 Aquanim wrote:On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. You mean a scum off the Rayn lynch besides Onegu? Lol, Im back. Im the best flip for day 2 because then you can lynch mocsta and bereft in order, followed by up to you, but this post I am scum is so bad. My question was not meant to state that I specifically think Onegu's scum, simply that if Corazon thought Onegu was scum then the "scum OFF the Rayn lynch" had already been satisfied. I didn't want to lynch Mocsta and Bereft on Rayn's say-so after he flipped, and I won't want to lynch them on yours Onegu unless you make a very convincing argument.
I will, and I want you to know something when I flip, rayn touched on it already, my reads are normally good but I have trouble getting town to see it.
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On November 23 2013 15:34 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already. Then replace out.
Omg cora not everyone can be around for deadlines, with people playing from multiple timezones its just not possible. And for you to be so eliteist like this is just dumb, if I only joined games where I could be around for deadline I couldnt join 5/6 of the games as they are mostly made for US and Europe deadlines.
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Im going to the mall with my wife, my tablet is fully charged and case incomeing, just letting you know about the delay.
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On November 23 2013 15:54 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:34 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 15:22 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 15:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 14:55 Onegu wrote:On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. So bad cora, take a look at when I voted what the wagons were, it was rayn with majority, and no one else with more than 1 vote. Why haven't you been a factor in the scumhunting this whole game? You could've been there at the lynch. You could've chimed in a few hours before and said why you wanted to stay on Mocsta. It wasn't at an ungodly hour for where you were. Your vote, no matter how good it is, does not absolve you of the poor standard of play you have showed us so far. I couldnt be there at the lynch and I wont be here and any deadline most likely, I have responded to this already. Then replace out. Omg cora not everyone can be around for deadlines, with people playing from multiple timezones its just not possible. And for you to be so eliteist like this is just dumb, if I only joined games where I could be around for deadline I couldnt join 5/6 of the games as they are mostly made for US and Europe deadlines. The problem simply isn't that you can't be here for the deadlines, it's the fact that you do absolutely nothing in the 48 hours between deadlines. If you helped town figure out a lynch with the time you had to play, I would not have a problem with it. The problem I have is that you don't help town get any lynch at all and it just seems like you don't care. Why should we keep you around?
I gave you my reads, I gave you my notes, yes I should have done more but irl stuff came up, I dont forsee that happening again. But you told me to replace out for missing deadlines, not for being unactive. You called me scum for bing inactive. Now your saying its both, you are contridicting yourself here cora.
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On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, not gonna apologize about the flip. I'm sure I'll have plenty say to Rayn post-game. Escpecially if Rean really is scum (which I still think).
Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.
Also gonna look into Rayns other scumreads though I don't know how much stock I can put into them because of how wrong he was about me. But I don't feel like he could really go 0 for 3 in his reads so if I had to choose 1 scum between Moc and Bereft, right now I'm gonna say it's Moc. But this is before my reread.
I think rayn was wrong in one of his reads in you, but when I make my bereft and mocsta cases please look into them because town rayn does figure shit out. Also update your thoughts when you can.
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On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive?
1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that.
2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though.
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Also when are people going to realize this is a game of logic not emotion, rayn never personally attacks people, he only attacks thier gameplay. I have a problem when people are attacked with personal assults that have nothing to do with the game rayn never does this. Rayn forces his reads down your throat, and when he is throwning reads everywhere and changeing them constantly its difficult to follow, but when he tunnels onto someone most of the time he is right. And in this game say what you want rayn was playing the game and wanting to policy lynch him for it dumb. Mocsta you habe played multiple games with him why all of a sudden do you want to policy lynch him this game?
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On November 23 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:13 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive? 1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that. 2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though. I think that scum definitely wouldn't mind a no-lynch over lynching Rayn. Rayn shits up town atmosphere something chronic. Take a look sometime at how many games where rayn was killed N1 town won, and how many games where he was killed much later scum won. It's educational.
Rayn figures shit out and not giving town free mislynches is important. I think no lynches are bad for town and scum, worse for town but depending on who is up for lynch scum want to get rid of that person and a town rayn fits that imo.
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On November 23 2013 16:24 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:On November 23 2013 16:13 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 23:09 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 11:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
OMG RAYN IM STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GONNA MARTYR
FUCK YOU MAN JUST FUCK YOU Also rayns martyr is the correct play in majority lynch, he knows his flip is valuable for info. His flip proved alot of stuff. Like most likely all scum was on his wagon. He gives credibility to his reads. @Onegu I have two questions. 1) Why do you think all of the scum would be on Rayn's wagon? What motive does the scumteam have for pushing Rayn's lynch so hard? 2) Could you comment on what about Rayn's reads you find persuasive? 1) I am feeling at least 2 as they dont want a no lynch on rayn to happen, yes rayn is controversal and he takes over the thread, but a town rayn will figure things out and push his reads to death. Rayns vote being so close is why I say that. 2) Ill make my own cases in a moment, disagree with his JJD read though. I think that scum definitely wouldn't mind a no-lynch over lynching Rayn. Rayn shits up town atmosphere something chronic. Take a look sometime at how many games where rayn was killed N1 town won, and how many games where he was killed much later scum won. It's educational. In fact, the only way I can see scum sticking out their necks a long way to lynch Rayn is to save Rean, who was looking very likely to be the lynch otherwise.
Meh I think I end up the wagon if rayn doesnt replace in.
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Yeah we can drop it but rayn was talking about in game stuff with you aqua.
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And that is why I said normally right I know he is wrong also looking at WoS. But given time rayn does figure shit out.
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On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1.
Posts this then follows up with these.
On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that.
This only after being asked his thoughts on it.
On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens.
And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1.
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Ok finished up my notes will be working on my cases now. But leaving for the mall, will work on them and post them while I am there.
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On November 23 2013 16:42 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:41 Onegu wrote:On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 12:14 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 12:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Doesn't Onegu's vote look really scummy with Rayn's flip? I'm not sure why Onegu's vote looks scummier due to Rayn's flip. Unless you're saying he didn't want to take responsibility for the Rayn lynch... which would apply to you in spades too. Could you clarify? Onegu dropped a vote away from Rayn and then peaced out. What would scum do if they knew town Rayn was probably going to be lynched 12 hours in advance? They wouldn't all pack on the Rayn wagon. That would be too obvious for a scum team. Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I was transparent with my stance on Rayn and my decision to no-lynch. Onegu was very shady about it and I think it's because he is hiding the fact that he is scum. That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1. Posts this then follows up with these. On November 23 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 23 2013 10:32 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon I'd like to see your thoughts on Jampidampi. No thread presence. He played a very little part in D1 and that doesn't reflect very well on my read on him. I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be him. I'd be down lynching him tomorrow if it comes to that. This only after being asked his thoughts on it. On November 23 2013 11:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
About to eat dinner- giving my final brief reads just in case I die (I probably won't)
Coming into D2, I want to lynch Onegu. His play has been really shady and he needs to be under the gun D2. He does not care about who gets lynched which is a huge scum tell.
I'd also be cool lynching Jampi for similar reasons.
HF blaming Mocsta for the lynch is really scummy seeing as if HF was town and didn't like the lynch, he could just back off it.
I'd be down for lynching one of those three tomorrow.
Sciberia's vote was really shady as it came with no explanation at the buzzer. From what I gathered up, he did not have a scum read on Rayn yet voted for him (let me know sci if I missed a post)
Thrawn needs to have more of a presence in the thread and needs to stop buddying Mocsta and make his own reads.
I'm not interested in lynching anyone outside of these 5 as of now. Of course I will be flexible depending on what happens. And this. This is his only mention of Jamp, there is no mention of rean. But they should be the focal point of n1. Onegu you're so bad. They lurked N1. Hard to talk to someone who isn't there.
So what they werent there you can still talk about them, you didnt.
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Nor did you ask them questions for when they came back, you didnt mention them at all.
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On November 23 2013 16:48 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 16:47 Onegu wrote:
Nor did you ask them questions for when they came back, you didnt mention them at all. At least I participated in the discussion.
Thats my point you didnt as there was no discussion about them. Even though you said they should be the focus. Anyway Im at the mall now. Working on bereft first.
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