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Chezinu, while you may have pinned the scum team down at the end of the day you were also town and if you didn't actively point them in the right direction (i was obviously scum -.-) then it's not always the best thing to do, especially as you were an active mislynch for the next day. Also lol @bereft who called my flavour bad, it was written by mods :D! Inactivity played a major part in this game as well as arguments, people that were appearing to contribute but also being lurky at the same time slam/scibs should have been likely suspects because of the NK's. Slam feared chezinu all game, chezinu was a next day potential mislynch. Nobody really went into details on why that kill made sense. Thrawn and aqua kills would only come from someone actively reading the thread to know what was happening and so someone active should have been looked at. In an argument like cora/mocsta someone who posts every so often with stuff that doesn't really add to much (scibs) should add suspicion. If town didn't actively policy lynch someone they all "thiught was town" then this game could have gone in a seriously different manner. There are mods to pm, end game to discuss things like that. To lynch someone people called town just because they got in an argument with is ridiculous, especially as you have double standards re:cora. | ||
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All I can do is pretty much echo what other people have said, yes, while I may have played trolly, initially I was making posts that demonstrated my thought process (that policy lynches actively go against win cons etc etc and you could read rayn bla bla) All you were doing was shutting me down at every point I could possibly make, if I was actually town then that is the kind of atmosphere that hinders any and all consideration for other people and yes you may have been town but you didn't know what alignment I was. What I'm trying to say is that while you know your alignment, other people that paint you scummy aren't making points based on illogical merits that need to be discredited at every point, there are reasons they think the things they do and in a game of information the more information you can get from people the more likely they are to slip up. If you ushered in conversation instead of shutting it down (even if it was based around you) then the town atmosphere improves tenfold. This isn't just a jab at you (tis constructive criticism) because other people are also guilty of the same thing. When people don't follow your reasoning or don't agree with your sentiment it's because they have their own thoughts, their own lines of inquisition. When a new theory is proposed it is looked upon with doubtful eyes because their own thought is seen through rose tinted glasses so they need convincing, a case may look good to you but it isn't always the most convincing thing in the world. On the topic of cases, Onegu. I get that you spend a lot of time on your cases and that's how you play but from what I see (I know you put a butt tonne of effort into them) they are often seen with a tunnelled mindset. You decide someone is scum and then when one post goes out of line it confirms to you that they MUST be scum. The things you pick up on as scum tells - miscontruing posts etc etc. while yes, can be scum tells some of the time are most often coming from people that haven't fully read up on all the details, it's not alignment confirming. I don't know what to say on improving rather than to put yourself in their shoes. If you were scum would you blatantly put inconsistencies in your posts just so somebody else could point them out and be all "hey he's scum DIE", I don't think you would personally. I think the main problem is that you have very little thread interaction. You return to the thread with a case on someone and then just debate the points brought up within your case, if someone disagrees then they are scummy or wrong and then you have to disappear again, I know this is due to time constraints etc because IRL is a huge burden but I suggest that if you devote time to playing mafia but know you don't have a lot of time then your playstyle would need to change from making cases of the nature that you do to bouncing off reads to people and discovering what they think and what their thought processes are. If you get people to explain what they are doing to the thread their motives become clearer and clearer and then the culmination of that CAN be a case. This would look like you actively developed the read and found substance on it rather than come out of the blue with a case that is self-confirmed. ____________________________________ As far as the game itself, I can't really say anything other than the arguments ruined it for you. I was allowed to play scummy as hell and get away with it because so much attention was drawn away from me it was unreal. My claim allowed things like this to occur: Holyflare 11-23-2013 10:04 PM ET (US) Haha this works so well, they spend the day talking about my role only to realise "hey we can't lynch a potential doctor and we really don't know if he's scum or not" then they realise they have no real guess work for the day and default to their original scum trail of onegu. Successful day wasted. | ||
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On December 03 2013 16:12 Chezinu wrote: What I learned from this game is to trust the Chezinu Rule. I talked about this during the game. Every time it comes up despite knowing it has work 100% in the past, I am still hesitant. I have doubts thinking that it may fail this time. It requires faith to follow through with the Chezinu Rule. In the future, I need to trust this mighty rule more. So, remember faith>logic. Cause Chezinu Rules. I knew the rule and I still did it because I knew you would say something  | ||
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