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TheChyz

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November 30 2013 06:41 GMT

#47

/in

TheChyz

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December 10 2013 23:40 GMT

#59

Come on fellow newbies and sign up so we can get started before the holidays

TheChyz

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January 05 2014 19:11 GMT

#213

On January 06 2014 03:50 Balla24 wrote:
I've got a possible in at the last second from someone, he said if we still need people by the deadline he'll in. Hopefully he does it soon :D

GJ Balla. Possibly saving mafia e-sports since 2014.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 05 2014 22:35 GMT

#243

I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part. If they are scum then that's an easy kill, if they are town they provide nothing helpful and might cause some confusion in finding actual scum.

TheChyz

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January 05 2014 22:47 GMT

#249

Why so eager to have people help you achieve your goals? Maybe they don't agree with them. If onlywonderboy is right, then your rules help you if you are scum as well since you seem to be very active in which lynching lurkers would help your cause of staying alive. Also having people fight can cause confusion in the town. So I don't see a reason why people should just help you achieve your goals.

TheChyz

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January 05 2014 23:08 GMT

#256

On January 06 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
- to start the game at a very high pace, to make sure that lurking is not only discouraged but also easy to spot and call out.

On January 06 2014 07:35 TheChyz wrote:
I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part. If they are scum then that's an easy kill, if they are town they provide nothing helpful and might cause some confusion in finding actual scum.

Hi "nobody", I'm TheChyz.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 06 2014 03:08 GMT

#296

Ok I think my little posts before I had to go afk helped generate enough argument to start conversations going. I actually total love the idea of trying to catch bandwagoners early and since Balla posted something similar to the train of thought I usually have I thought someone would catch the link. If you did, congrats.

I don't really like Day_Walkers entrance since basically he just gives us a list and then says that he leaves. From my personal experience I tend to give lists a lot when I am mafia and post very little. There is no reason to provide a list unless you have to (getting lynched, etc) imo. He is also the only one that seems to kinda still ride the end of the "vote chyz" bandwagon and then labels everybody else as town. Seems like a very safe move. If you think I'm scum why not put your vote where your mouth is? Don't like him very much at the moment and would like to hear more from him apart from the "agreeing with ..." slogan that you seem to use so very much.

##Vote: Day_Walker

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 06 2014 03:10 GMT

#297

Also will be near computer for the next few hours so let's get more people help scumhunt.

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 03:33 GMT

#301

Yes. It would be too easy if people just went like "oh I like that idea about making an argument to catch scum" because then scum would be very cautious. So I took the initiative in hopes of catching some scum trying to bandwagon early without them being too cautious about it. I have a few other reads also but for the moment I will keep them to myself unless it comes up in a conversation since scum can jump easily onto other peoples reads.

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 03:52 GMT

#303

I have nothing to say to the question since I didn't actually mean what I had previously said (right near the start of game). Overall tho I liked his post response since it seems to have original thought put into it aswell as a vote. That reads more town to me and at the moment he and you (Balla) have been the most active so I have nothing to say negative about him atm since there are much better people to focus on atm.

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 04:11 GMT

#306

I knew I had to go afk and I was pretty confident some trolly remark would be able to stir up some more people trying to bandwagon me. The way I see it is that if worst case scenario I get lynched off first day that I am pretty confident I can help narrow down who the scum really is. I don't know why you are so concerned about that when I just told you that I was saying things to stir an argument. You can choose to believe that I was either backtracking or not.

Since it seems its only us two, what are your opinions on Day_Walker so far?

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 06:56 GMT

#330

So Dragoon, it seems like you don't think Asuna should be a possible lynch target. Why is that so?

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 07:09 GMT

#336

1) Day_Walker
2) JonnyLaw

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 07:10 GMT

#338

Balla if you could also post your top 2 as well

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 07:15 GMT

#341

well, ok... Although you kinda did 3-4 but w/e

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 16:01 GMT

#379

I would like to bring up a player that has kinda hidden back into the shadows and that is dnyarri. When he first posts, I find it ironic since he says that it is easy for lurkers to bandwagon in which he proceeds to bandwagon anyways. He also seems to bring no argument to the table but mostly facts and his argument is circular logic stuff. It goes more or less like this, "since DayWalker made the list in which he says theChyz is scum then theChyz is scum, but because of theChyz's points then DayWalker is also scummy". To me it seems like he just read my filter and saw my vote for DayWalker and also checked his out. This is a good move because if I came up as mafia then he would be safe, but if not then he has a strong fallback on another player. I may be overanalyzing the first post, but that is not even the most important.

The moment he gets challenged he switches immediately from me to Dragoon, which he didn't even mention at all! There was nothing to imply this. AND, later on in his posts the only people he mentions are myself, Dragoon, and DayWalker. So he also just read Dragoon's post and just mashed it in together in his second paragraph which just seems like more facts and analysis taken from other people.

Out of all of the points, the strongest still stands as when he gets challenged about me, he flops and goes on a new target all together.

##Unvote
##Vote: dnyarri

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 06 2014 18:39 GMT

#401

Ok so I only have an hour cause of break at school and then going to be gone for about 10 or so hours so I will try to do as much as I can in this hour.

On January 07 2014 01:16 suki wrote:
Hi Chyz,

Can you share your thoughts on Dragoon/BigDad for me as well?

I don't really like what Dragoon is doing atm. He first votes for me for the reason of bringing confusion to the town by being trolly and then the rest of his posts are useless and just defending people without any reason to which is strange to me. Then his last post is basically a troll post which is similar to what I did to get people to bandwagon on top of me, so I would like to hear if his read of me has changed because its been quite some time since his vote.

As for BigDad I like almost everything he is saying so far. No over reaction to Jonny pressuring him and I don't really have anything that reads scummy from him.

In addition, derrida just came in and posted really nothing of value except for facts. He also didn't really poke his head out on anybody except the lurkers and the one posting the most. It just doesn't sit and what strikes me the most off putting is that he would put me in the clear and have absolutely NO suspicion on me. I am in a position currently where most people, even if they think I'm town-ish, would agree that I do look a bit scummy. So to get an easy pass from him kinda seems to me like he knows who the real town is. Also him jumping on Balla seems to me like wanting to quiet him down maybe? Ionno but mostly for the reason of having me as not suspicious makes me very suspicious of him.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 06 2014 18:56 GMT

#412

But along with that logic (to me anyways) if he is mafia then he call me off as town and if I happen to die he can say "told you so". If he just jumped on the bandwagon then it might have attracted a little attention to himself which has happened to the few others who have just entered the game and called me scummy. It just seems like he knows a bit too much about me on the first day which makes me think of him as scummy.

And Derrida, could you say why you think I am not scummy more in-depth.

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 18:57 GMT

#413

EBWOP: First paragraph was in response to this:

On January 07 2014 03:49 theDragoon wrote:
@TheChyz I also find it a bit odd that derrida doesn't think you are suspicious. If he was mafia, then jumping on TheChyz bandwagon would be the easiest thing to do...

TheChyz

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January 06 2014 19:19 GMT

#419

Ok unfortunately I will be afk for 9-10 hours. But for the last time Derrida, can you answer me why I do not seem scummy to you more in-depth?

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 04:14 GMT

#538

Sorry I was away, am back now and boy have things heated up.

On January 07 2014 08:34 BigDad wrote:
erm, where is TheChyz. He voted a lurker then went afk. What the?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz

On January 07 2014 03:39 TheChyz wrote:
Ok so I only have an hour cause of break at school and then going to be gone for about 10 or so hours so I will try to do as much as I can in this hour.

On January 07 2014 04:19 TheChyz wrote:
Ok unfortunately I will be afk for 9-10 hours. But for the last time Derrida, can you answer me why I do not seem scummy to you more in-depth?

Dunno if your just lazy or trying to stir up things, either way, bad sign for you.

Since most of the voting seems to be regarding on Dragoon I will wait until he returns to add more to the argument (or maybe not, read ahead and you will see). I still don't want people to forget about dnyarri. To me it seems like typical scum play, ie do nothing first day, post a little and try to cause no commotion, go back into lurking until it is day 2. I will have a post again soon as I want to re-read filters and make sure I am not mistaking my argument due to just reading too quickly.

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 04:34 GMT

#539

Ok the more I read the more it seems like Day_Walker is trying to defend , accuse others, and distance himself from Dragoon, while Dragoon is doing the same to Day_Walker. However it seems that Day_Walker is just better at defending himself (or so it seems to me) than Dragoon. If you read Day_Walkers filter, you will find him hoping from one person to another in almost every single post. This seems like he is hoping for somebody to maybe latch on to one of his posts and cause more confusion in the town. I am still fine with both as lynches and I guess I will wait until Dragoon returns to actually decide much more clearly.

##Unvote
Unvoting because I think there could be better lynch targets but just going to wait on the dragoon response/something else drastic to happen.
Also what are people's opinions on dnyarri?

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 05:54 GMT

#546

Thats a stupid excuse Jonny. Why not address him now? Dragoon is in enough of a hole where I don't think he will want to sheep onto peoples ideas anyway since it won't help him prove his innocence. What have you got to hide?

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 09:35 GMT

#581

The only problem I have with an dnyarri vote is that it won't really tell us much apart from what HIS alignment is, however somebody else as a lynch (like Dragoon for example), will help us gain some information on other players regardless of alignment.

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 16:02 GMT

#652

Everybody has to start to make up their mind. IMO Dragoon himself has not cleared his name, the person that has done that for him is DW. His so called defense after the martyr to me felt like garbage and he has done almost nothing to help scumhunt. The current vote on dnyarri IS in fact useless because apart from the votes onto him, there is no information to be gained whatsoever. However Dragoon has played a terrible game and has done nothing productive to the town, infact all he has done is cause confusion (as well as DW), which in this case is worse than dnyarri. His allignment will also say SO much more than dnyarri's will

From the beginning of the game Dragoon and DW have been defending themselves and it has been very suspicious. Personally I just thing DW knows too much and my vote would be on him because regardless if for some reason Dragoon ends up being town, DW will use the "i told you card". He seems very adamant on dnyarri, but it seems to me like he is just hoping that since I voted for him I would be able to help lead the bandwagon on the lurker or somebody else will. To me I find that DW has also barely helped town scum hunt in the fact that he just tries to attack everybody in the game but only a little bit, never with a vote, and has been defensive about Dragoon from the start. Too much defending Dragoon and not enough scum hunting.

##Vote: Day_Walker

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 07 2014 16:02 GMT

#653

EBWOP:
##Vote: Day_Walker

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 16:22 GMT

#658

BTW I will be gone in about 20 minutes until about 30 minutes before the deadline. So I will be able to make a final vote, but not really contribute too much apart from what I can now. At the moment I would still be willing to lynch theDragoon but I see Day_Walker as a stronger vote. My vote on dnyarri was to get him to talk, which hasn't really helped much, but I would not be willing to lynch a lurker just yet when there are others that are acting pretty scummy.

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 19:23 GMT

#664

Both mafia and town can self vote at anypoint so your question is not only irrelevant but is sidetracking more important things

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 19:32 GMT

#666

Yes

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 20:32 GMT

#682

Unless u think u can get ur people u talk about lynched or saved from a Lynch, I think it would be better to wait until night

TheChyz

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January 07 2014 21:34 GMT

#710

Hmm so I still think it is more likely that Day_Walker is scum based on facts alone. To me it seems very unlikely that DW and Dragoon are both town (only thing that was possible is they were maybe both masons but I didn't want to mention it so that they couldn't play that card to try and trick town). The next possibilities that seems not very likely is that DW is town and Dragoon is scum just based upon how they have played so far. Therefore the two most likely options to me seem that either DW and Dragoon are scum, or DW is scum and Dragoon is town, which is why I would have prefered a DW lynch. However with 30 minutes to go I don't think it is a good idea to try and switch other peoples vote since it might cause nobody to get lynched. This is my last post until after deadline (gonna bus home ~1 hour) but just in case to secure the vote i'll switch, although as hesitant as I am, because Dragoon has played a pretty bad game if he is town and I don't think we should be to blame because of his lack of effort once a few votes piled on him.

##Unvote
##Vote: theDragoon

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 08 2014 18:05 GMT

#830

Ok so I got to sit back a bit and watch all this bullshit happen. And I have loads to say.

First off, the switching of votes to me seems very scummy. In the last 30 minutes there should almost never be a drastic vote switch because a) not everybody is here and, b) confuses town on who to vote for. Also to all those people being like "omg it was so obvious he was town with his last post" I have a few things to say to you. If you ignore his actual flip, there is actually little from his last few posts that seem obvious town to me and I could (and have) see it being done from a scum perspective as well.

Now there is still a person that some people were slightly suspicious of but in the night, (unless I have missed something) NOTHING was targetted at him. That person would be DW. He seems to get out free just because of what exactly? That Dragoon is town?. I even said in my last few posts before the day ended that the two most likely scenarios to me seem like no matter what Dragoon's alliance that DW is probably scum. After the day ended, he then makes a nice post showing how he "[didn't] have a strong read on Dragoon" and it looks to me more like trying to clear his own name. He also tries to say how he "certainly wasn't going to try and defend Dragoon without good evidence" when in fact he did. It all seems like he is just trying to backtrack to his earlier comments and try to cover them up with many excuses which I can point out many flaws in them. Currently he has done nothing to clear his name and I don't like how he is getting a free pass while being able to make so many lies. Currently I would put him as one person on the scum team.

Jonny, oh jonny. The whole game since the moment you entered I have been getting this read that from your posts you seem to be super arrogant as if nothing can stop you. Balla has mentioned thats how you play, but I still think your acting as if you are the best in the game, calling player bad and saying that something along the lines of "Oh, if only I came earlier, I could have saved Dragoon". That just seems like your full of shit and that you are trying to portray this motion where you could have saved Dragoon. And the only case you make is the dnyarri voted on him first. WHAT? this is stupidly outrageous. Yes dnyarri so far has been looking fairly scummy but his vote on Dragoon was done LONG before most of town started to talk extensively about him. It just seems like a typical scum idea of "oh, lets pin it on the guy that voted on him first and hope to get another townie lynched". There are much better reasons to try to lynch dnyarri but all you came up with is his vote on Dragoon as the first one. There's a little more but I don't wanna make this post super long. At the moment Jonny is my scum read number 2.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 09 2014 14:47 GMT

#923

Well dnyarri just decided to join a mafia game with little time on his hands (which hopefully he won't join anymore if busy) or is just scum trying to stall to recreate answers. Either way a liability to town since we will never truly know his role unless flipped.

##Vote: Dnyarri

TheChyz

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January 09 2014 14:50 GMT

#924

Like "I will not be giving long analysis or asking questions" is probably the two best ways to read if someone is town or not, giving 1-2 line responses are probably the easiest thing to do and show almost no thought process being attempted.

Question to dnyarri then: If you could lynch 2 people right now and be able to save 1 in the night, who would they be?

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 03:10 GMT

#973

I think that no matter what dnyarri would be a good lynch target for the reasons I have specified before as in we have no idea if he is scum or town. I can point out something scummy in every single post and even if he is town, since he is so uninvested into the game means that he can easily be swayed by scum. In a sense it would be better if he was modkilled but I think as the case that he happens to do enough to satisfy the requirements to stay in the game each day, he is a liability to town itself (unless you want to gamble and hope he votes well) or he ends up being scum.

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 06:07 GMT

#997

On January 09 2014 03:43 onlywonderboy wrote:

Show nested quote +

I admit I was a bit overzealous with the Dragoon/DW pair. There was a light connection so I don't feel bad about pushing it to start. I've previously stated why I started to shy away from Dragoon and the DW pair (revolving around how DW played after it seemed certain Dragoon was gonna get lynched). It was not Dragoon's impassioned plea that changed my mind about him. I still think there's a chance DW is scum so I at least tried to move the focus towards him. So DW is still one of my top scum picks.

In regards to what happened at deadline, I think a lot of players were just putting their faith in Jonny's vote. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure of dnyarri being scum, but I was willing to take the risk knowing that if he could flip town. Personally I was voting more to save Dragoon than to kill dnyarri (who of course, could be scum). Several other players mentioned how they were convinced of Dragoon's innocence due to his final post so that could have made it easier for them to switch last minute.

In terms of other possible scum players, I'm of course suspicious of dnyarri like a lot of players now. Really hope he shows up so we get some sort of insight on his play. Don't have any other solid scum reads right now so I guess my main focus is on dnyarri and Day_Walker. Still not sure about Derrida, but I'm still leaning towards bad town rather than scum. Might need to look into him more.

These two last paragraphs really caught my attention. Now what I think is the case is that since scum KNEW that Dragoon was town, I'm assuming that atleast one of them would switch their vote in order to buy credibility (assuming that dnyarri is not scum). Now from those 6, only 3 are left alive. OWB, Bigdad, and DW. Town needs to start gaining some focus on lynch targets since our Day 2 has sucked compared to day 1, so I suggest we mainly focus on these 3.

Out of all of them I find OWB the most suspicious and a big part of it comes from the bolded paragraphs. He was "personally voting more to save Dragoon than to kill dnyarri" which reads to me as if he knows that dragoon is 100% town and is willing to kill another to prove it. He mentions the useless line after that, "Several other players mentioned how they were convinced of Dragoon's innocence due to his final post so that could have made it easier for them to switch last minute" which to me seems like he is looking for an excuse for why he was along with one of those people. note its how other people were convinced, but not himself? strange way to just follow a crowd, no? AND WAIT, what happens after the flip, he becomes "SUSPICIOUS" of dnyarri when it seems what most people are doing. What happened to your "I'm killing dnyarri more to save Dragoon". If you were so suspicious why would you need that excuse? Makes you look more town credible for trying to save a towny, right? And that last minute vote switch from the towny, very smooth. Also that slight defense on Derrida at the end, the icing on top imo.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 10 2014 06:15 GMT

#998

Oops forgot to
##Unvote
##Vote: onlywonderboy

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 10 2014 07:58 GMT

#1001

In my opinion Jonny and Derrida almost never interacted except for a little bit near the end. I think that derrida just went along whatever the other scum had chosen as their kill (in this case, Jonny).

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 10 2014 17:33 GMT

#1017

DW, do you still think dnyarri is also scum, why or why not?

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 20:00 GMT

#1034

I think overall I still prefer owb over bigdad just because of my case on him that I made about all of the things he did before the Dragoon vote. However it may just be that I'm just slightly tunnel visioning on him more than bigdad. I think that both owb and bigdad have had useless day 2 posts (maybe a little more on bigdad's side) but that still doesn't overcome argument I made on owb.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 10 2014 21:05 GMT

#1037

Is this what happened last dealine also? Where nobody was here and then suddenly in the last 15 minutes most people show up

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:16 GMT

#1040

ya nobody is wanting to really give their opinion near deadline and its especially important as town to do so because scum might make a slip about something accidentally.

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:22 GMT

#1044

why do you think dnyarri is more likely scum than OWB?

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:26 GMT

#1046

DNYARRI VOTE OR YOU WILL GET MODKILLED!

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:27 GMT

#1047

nvm im retarded, just looked at lonemeow's latest post to see who didnt vote and didnt see his vote until now

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:40 GMT

#1050

sidesprang, please provide the reasoning as to why you think dnyarri is a better target. You keep saying he is without any evidence atm.

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:45 GMT

#1056

Why asuna? You didn't vote until 15 minutes before deadline. super sketch. WHY?

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:47 GMT

#1061

dont like him, if OWB is scum then I think he is my most likely next choice

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:48 GMT

#1063

##Unvote
##Vote: Asuna

No reasoning, lurking until deadline, probably hoping to just live till next day.

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:48 GMT

#1065

EBWOP:
##Unvote
##Vote: Asuna

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 21:56 GMT

#1077

Only problem is that I'm not super convinced that he is a better target over owb. And i just wanted to get a response from Asuna, not gonna actually gonna vote a "for now" confirmed town. It just is kinda sketchy and hoping asuna said more.

##Unvote
##Vote: onlywonderboy

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 10 2014 21:57 GMT

#1079

same as before i think, only i have switched votes, oh and asuna is on OWB

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 22:00 GMT

#1085

not good if town, just not as bad as others

TheChyz

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January 10 2014 22:06 GMT

#1088

Gotta go for a few hours, will be back afterwards. This vote kinda sucks but I think there is quite a wealth of information that can be garnered from it.

TheChyz

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January 11 2014 18:52 GMT

#1108

I still think DW could be scum but after day 1 his posts seemed to feel more town for me and other people seemed like better scum possibilities.
I thought the reasoning behind OWB was given well enough. But anyways my thought process was that my vote on dnyarri was basically mostly lurking and saying unoriginal comments whereas owb was fairly quiet to what he sayed he would be this game and that the information that I garnered from him seemed more like he was trying to attack town and cover up for scum.
Anyways I still want to reread some peoples filters to make sure I didn't confuse things between people and I'll have my explanation before night ends, but can you post yours aswell Balla :
"Day 3 is going to be fun if what i'm thinking is happening. Will post about it later."

TheChyz

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January 11 2014 19:02 GMT

#1115

I wasn't antsy to find another target, I just didn't want to start tunnel visioning just in case owb wasn't town. People were mentioning big dad (which was in my list of people that I think should have been the nights lynch candidates) and I was asking if there was something that I may have missed. Nobody sayed anything that swayed me and I went with my biggest scum read at that time which was owb.

TheChyz

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January 11 2014 19:03 GMT

#1116

And Balla, thats a bullshit reason not to make your post. You said "Day 3 is going to be fun if what i'm thinking is happening. Will post about it later" and since you keep pestering others to explain their thoughts, I expect you to do the same.

TheChyz

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January 11 2014 19:22 GMT

#1122

@Balla
What is so scummy about it, your doing the exact same thing from everybody else and forcing them to explain things, what makes you such a special case that whenever you say something we should just let you pass cause your active? Jonny (i think) said that you are active both scum and town so I find no reason why you felt that posting that you will post your thoughts later and then now not wanting to is scummy from me. Seems like your being very defensive. And you don't have to post now, just before night ends (even if its 1 sec before)

TheChyz

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January 11 2014 20:00 GMT

#1127

I didn't skip it, it will be done before the night ends. still got time.

TheChyz

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January 11 2014 21:58 GMT

#1131

So the current three suspects are based on who vote switched from Dragoon to dnyarri. I'm still convinced that one of them is scum. All that leaves that are currently alive and not confirmed town are DW and Bigdad. But that is assuming dnyarri is town. I accepted dnyarri's defence for a while but I have kinda forgotten about him and now when analyzing players again much closer he seems very suspicious to me. So currently my target range is dnyarri, DW, and bigdad. I'm convinced that one of them is scum.

Now one of the most important things I went for searching next is the votes on the OWB lynch. The difference is that both dnyarri and DW both voted for OWB while bigdad stayed on dnyarri. What also is interesting is that in the votes DW first had his vote on dnyarri, but it seems that once OWB gained traction he switched over. Very suspicious. So I dove in deeper.

Starting off with dnyarri, he only has a filter of 1 page, which means that it better be damn good quality and if not then he is not helping town. His vote on me and then sudden switch when questioned about it is scummy thing #1 I could find. Next is that when I ask him 2 people he would lynch and 1 he would save, he gives me just 1 lynch (DW) and saves chinstrap. Saving chinstrap is an answer that involves no real thought being put into it. His only reason to lynch owb is that he is lurking and voted for dnyarri. That reason alone makes him mores scummy that DW? That's just wrong. Then he just suddenly goes that he thinks bigdad is also his top suspect. There's so much more things that are so scummy to me that I don't want to write an essay on it (and his filters short enough so just read it all yourself). All the inconsistency and no actual self thought going into things and just going for the bandwagon votes (dragoon, then owb) really makes think he is very likely to be scum.

As for bigdad he is the towniest of all 3. There are a few things that might seem scummy but overall I feel he has been contributing ok and that he is creating some useful conversation. Most importantly is that he sticks with dnyarri as his scum choice and doesn't join the owb bandwagon and adds more useful thought into his reasoning to lynch dnyarri.

And lastly, DW. To me he has always been in top 3 lynch positions each day but I just had reasons that I thought were better to lynch other people. Most closely I'm just trying to find his thought process from going to dnyarri vote on day 1, and then switching it to an owb vote later on. His reason for voting on dnyarri just started with lynching 1 of 3 lurkers that seemed the most scummy to him (a safe vote, since nobody likes lurkers and could be faked later as just putting pressure). Mostly he sticks to his 3 scum theory of asuna, dnyarri, derrida on night 1. After derrida's death, dnyarri is his number one and asuna is his number two (which seems acceptable logically), but then adds that he would NOT be happy with an asuna lynch (what?) because of his roleblock call. If your not happy with his lynch then why is he your number 2 scum makes no sense to me. THEN SUDDENLY he is convinced that he is tunnel visioning on dnyarri and that he agrees with our points about owb and switches his votes, the moment when people actually start creating some votes on owb. After that nothing of usefullness comes from DW and he has been fairly silent all night long.

Therefore I am at the conclusion that I think either dnyarri or DW are scum (although probably not together). Having had really bad reads on the last 2 lynches I don't feel confident enough to put one over the other at this moment in terms of who I would lynch first but these are two people I would go after on Day 3 (if I still am alive then).

The only small worry for me is that Balla thinks he is confirmed town. He is PROBABLE, but not confirmed. I think that if there are 2 night kills then Balla or Asuna have to be also looked at much, much, more closely. Also on a side note I'm just weary of Balla (if he is still alive in day 3) since if I was scum I would probably have killed him night 1 and if not then definitely night 2 since he is creating lots of conversation and making people respond to their previous posts (except he doesn't like it when people ask him instead, which is odd). Definitely not a higher priority for me than dnyarri and DW but just something to keep an eye on.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 11 2014 22:04 GMT

#1135

Did anybody have anything happen to them this night?

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 12 2014 04:17 GMT

#1138

Ok so at the moment we have a one-shot vigi and innocent child confirmed as well as a goon. Im assuming that there are no vigi's or masons (since they are very unlikely), and if there are please come on out. That means that out of the 7 power roles, 2 are gone. That means there are power roles left. If they all belong to scum that means their powerroles are only 1 goon, 1 GF, and 1 SK. That means there is NO ROLEBLOCKER. In which case Asuna is lying. I think that now is a good time to come out with a role if you have one. Because if there is no other town roles, ASUNA IS LYING and is either GF or SK. The cool part is that if I am correct nobody should fake claim since asuna will be alone (if either mafia or sk).

##Vote: Asuna
Role claim now. I am Vanilla Townie.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 12 2014 04:44 GMT

#1140

7 powerroles, 2 confirmed means 5 powerroles left. In the setup, 5 T's = 1 goon, 1 gf, 1 sk

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 12 2014 20:38 GMT

#1163

Yes finally some actual posts. Hopefully this short amount of posting but with lots of analysis continues. I agree I may look a little scummy now but hopefully people pick up this pattern I am doing of reckless aggression.

Anyways I am loving asuna's response (apart from coming out) and dnyarri's aswell. The only logical possiblity atm is that there is no sk unless it is asuna (highly unlikely i think). With asuna's claim, that makes 3 town power roles guaranteed leaving the option just 2 goons and 1 roleblocker for scum which makes the most sense. The only other possible option is if there are 2 more town power roles meaning 1goon, 1 rb, and 1 gf (but this is highly unlikely imo).

Currently I think asuna, dnyarri, chinstrap, myself are town. With a 6v2 right now that makes it only having to pick out a pair out of the remaining 4. Those being DW, suki, bigdad, and sidesprang. From these 4 I would also include suki into the list of town people because of the active scum hunting that she always seems to be doing and I find the analysis to be thought through (even if I might not agree with all of it). So atm my scum picks would be (in order) DW, sidesprang, then bigdad.

The most obvious scum team to me seems like DW, sidesprang now just beccause sidesprang just put me and bigdad on the scum team when a paragraph before that he says "Reasoning for me not mentioning BigDad is just because he has been under my radar. But I'm sure if you look you will find more ppl I did not mention? In general I dont talk about people I dont have reads on". So even tho he has no read on him he is on the scum team? That's really off. Along with that sidesprang has "not been comfortable lynching" DW. And also DW was quick to have dnyarri + asuna + derrida scum team the moment when dnyarri started attacking sidesprang. It's fairly common for a scum to put another scum in one of the scum team pairs since it might give credibility later on and DW doesn't really accuse derrida of being scummy, more that his posts are awkward but doesn't really push derrida hard at all. I'm most comfortable with a DW or sidesprang lynch today (mostly DW still).

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 02:14 GMT

#1170

I'm ok to get lynched but only after we get another scum. Because currently with it being 6v2. Basically a mislynch today will make it 4v2 and it will be mislynch and lose. I'd be fine for people to make sure if I am scum or not by lynching me but only after we get another scum. That way it will be either 5v1 (if we get scum today) or 3v1 (if we get scum tmrw). That way we have atleast another lynch or 2 to use on the last scum.

I still stand by my statement of either DW or sidesprang, and DW is lurking it up (personal reasons or w/e) and when I am scum the easiest thing for me to do was to lurk and hope that town would kill itself off. DW's votes have been consistent on jumping on the bandwagon and that coupled with all the scummy posts he has made make me think that he is the best target for town to lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Day_Walker

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 04:00 GMT

#1173

Like I answered it in a few of my older posts. I just look for people to fall into my aggressive trap. Like I said before, I know I will have to get lynched in the end for town to feel safe, but just need to kill 1 more scum before lynching me or else it can be MYLO tmrw. Also english is my second language so I mess up stuff gramatically sometimes.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 06:06 GMT

#1174

This game is way to quiet. Come on town don't you guys want to win. I expect the two people who haven't voted yet to vote right now and give an explanation why. I also want something out of DW cause travel or no travel, 48 hours is lots of time to have some sort of opinion on a player and not just a vote and a cya later

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 15:48 GMT

#1179

Alright it looks like I'm probably getting lynched and I have school in 30 minutes in which I will be only able to interact occasionally with short messages. When I get lynched I want town to take a close look at a DW. After he has been pressured day 1 he has done very little productive and has been lurking around and not really helping town. He has also been bandwagonning votes. II would disregard his vote for this day just because I have already called him out on it and he is probably aware of it.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 15:50 GMT

#1180

Also since 5 people have already voted for me (and one who hasn't is innocent child) means that either the rest of town is voting on scum or that at least 1-2 scum is bandwagoning on the person that seems like an easy lynch target (more likely)

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 16:35 GMT

#1182

I think I have many times. From them I have gotten that it is either DW, you (sidesprang), or Bigdad. Currently I am thinking more DW - sidesprang as I have posted before as to my reasoning before. I know for a fact (but you guys don't) that currently in my vote there is a scum (since everybody is in it except for DW and chinstrap, unless I vote counted wrong).

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 16:38 GMT

#1183

I'm going to school now so from now on my responses will me much smaller (i suck with a phone)

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 17:24 GMT

#1184

Come on guys, talk more. This is exactly what scu wants, to have a vote on a town and not have to say anything so that they might not slip. What are peoples opinion on DW?

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 18:55 GMT

#1186

When I end up getting lynched town needs to have someone to start pressuring people because all this quietness I letting scum too much room to think about their posts or just to avoid posting. Hopefully the 100% townie chinstrap will be able to lead the charge but if the game continues as it has this day it will be disastrous. Imagine how much less talk there would be if I did not try to make people talk. It's kinda ridiculous.

Anyway I actually find bigdad's play very strange as well dnyarri. He is basically saying that I am scum and that if I am not then he will throw dnyarri up for the next lynch since he assumes that dnyarri has to be 100% scum. BTW if we lynch a town today then next day will be MYLO. With that bigdad is setting up himself where when I flip and turn town he will most likely go for dnyarri and thus end the game (since 2v2 will happen in which scum wins).

I really wish that people would look at other players instead of tunnel visioning on me since seems now that I can't do anything that would actually help town to get a scum other than get more people talking (which surprise, surprise, almost no one is). Kinda sad gonna have to go out because people don't like me generating discussion aggressively. As I said before, I have no problem getting lynched but only after we get another scum because then it will put town in a less desperate position. I would rather not get lynched at all but from the start of the game I already decided that I would play aggressive in hopes of catching a few scum and then if I have to then getting myself lynched off since I would also be a bit suspicious (unless someone gets a cop check on me).

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 20:16 GMT

#1190

I just answered your question twice. Dunno why u keep saying I don't.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 20:30 GMT

#1192

I explain it basically on the last paragraph of my long post on pg.60. I am stating all the time what I have learnt from it which are my reads. Who do u think another scum person is?

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 21:19 GMT

#1196

Alright this is my last post unfortunately. Even tho I will flip town I want town to look at DW, sidesprang, n bigdad in that order. Balla said look at DW and nothing, so hopefully u do now. I thinly DW and sidesprang are scum pair if I had to guess. GG guys, Sry couldn't get yall to believe me.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 13 2014 23:23 GMT

#1199

GG all, was fun. I love all these dramatic posts LoneMeow btw. GL ALL :D

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