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On November 11 2013 09:34 Vonthin wrote: Need more people to sign up soon, really want to play again and that 30 person game seems sorta overwhelming so I don't wanna join that, someone should post this in some other forums, thats how I joined the first game since someone posted in the LoL general forum So many people from LoL subforum. Wave this is your fault. Owb, nyx, odin, vonthin, myself and how many more in recent newb games? | ||
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Expected this start earlier. If I die in league mafia early I'll be back. | ||
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I thought this would have started by now. Should let Odin play. He mod killed himself after two days in his fourth game anyway. | ||
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Balla wagoning scum partners all day long. And bigdad day3 apparently. | ||
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probably not since slackers sign up and don't play | ||
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Suki - Balla's not clogging the thread at all. His posts have a purpose we have sub 100 posts in the first 8 hours. You're the person clogging the thread complaining about his actions. Balla - I was out with the gf all day. I'll be here a while and more active around deadlines in the future. Chyz - could be scum but i doubt it at this point. owb - if he doesn't post more this game I want to lynch him day 1. I'm sick of it. He's completely competent and has enough time to read 4 pages of the thread when he can keep up with LOLDG and LOLOTGD which average 200-300 posts a day. Gonna reread the thread. I skimmed in order to catch up and get this post out saying I'm here. | ||
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On January 06 2014 15:13 theDragoon wrote: @Balla24 About the random accusation thing, a bunch of people started ##voting random people. It's my first time playing this so I'm assuming doing that in the thread that early in the game just seems really random to me when there isn't much information to go on. I assume that by ##voting that they are serious with those accusations, so excuse me if doing that randomly in the thread is something that's very common and isn't meant to be taken 100% serious. Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation. You're not saying anything with authority. You're hesitant and making excuses throughout that post. What are your opinions so far? I don't care how other people feel about you or if it's your first game. That doesn't matter. | ||
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At this point we have three players who've posted nothing. Fine, we have 30+ hours till day ends. I hate this post and generally everything in Asuna's filter. On January 06 2014 14:16 Asuna wrote: I'm just concise with my answers. I was asked pretty direct and narrowish questions so I gave pretty direct and narrowish answers. Also keeping track of everything in forum mafia is surprisingly different, so hopefully I didn't miss anything I'm supposed to be replying to from the last couple of pages. Basically I've played a bit of mafia, am probably terrible at reading people, but TheChyz does seem a bit fishy for the reasons Day_Walker said. Might be too early to tell though. Excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt in one line. I'm down to lynch Asuna or OWB at this point. Dragoon and Chyz read more as if they're trying but misguided. | ||
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Asuna - you said you want your answers to be concise and your filter contained exactly zero content. Now when I comment you get very defensive. Cmon is this the best you have for this game? Dragoon - His post was bad. Very bad. I'm telling him why I think that it's not helpful and why. Kinda straightforward I'd say. Chyz - Here it is. He's playing stupid bad. Worse than I'd expect from scum in a newbie game. There's a lot of time to make up my mind about him. I'm not going to be lynched today so don't waste your time trying asuna. You're looking worse and worse to me. Bandwagon the easy lynch on chyz. | ||
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His quick daywalker vote is the only part that strikes me as being off. | ||
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I actually don't disagree chyz' reasoning. On January 06 2014 12:08 TheChyz wrote: Ok I think my little posts before I had to go afk helped generate enough argument to start conversations going. I actually total love the idea of trying to catch bandwagoners early and since Balla posted something similar to the train of thought I usually have I thought someone would catch the link. If you did, congrats. I don't really like Day_Walkers entrance since basically he just gives us a list and then says that he leaves. From my personal experience I tend to give lists a lot when I am mafia and post very little. There is no reason to provide a list unless you have to (getting lynched, etc) imo. He is also the only one that seems to kinda still ride the end of the "vote chyz" bandwagon and then labels everybody else as town. Seems like a very safe move. If you think I'm scum why not put your vote where your mouth is? Don't like him very much at the moment and would like to hear more from him apart from the "agreeing with ..." slogan that you seem to use so very much. ##Vote: Day_Walker That's along my thinking. Chyz is a safe wagon vote. Jumping on lynch targets that others chose first when there's not a real case makes me uneasy. Daywalker needs to contribute or he joins my lynch OWB for doing nothing wagon. Overall I want to see more content from everyone. If you're scum balla I'll at least get something to work with from your posting quantity. I can't say the same about 90% of the game. Ill still be around a while tonight and most of the afternoon tomorrow to keep this game moving. On another note I was some explanation from bigdad On January 06 2014 15:42 BigDad wrote: Hey everyone, Sorry to miss the bulk of the conversation so far, the Australian timezone kind of skews the timeframes a little for me. Okay I've read through the thread, and mistakenly thought chinstrap seemed scummy until i re-read that he is confirmed innocent child! As someone coming late to the thread it gives me an external perspective so bear with me on my reads so far. Im leaning towards Balla and TheChyz being townie. However I may be completely off on this one. Balla seems townie, he is stirring up the most conversation out of everyone. I'm more skeptical of TheChyz, his loose play followed by claiming it to be "some trolly remark" is either a 180 freak out after he got voted OR its a great play drawing out the scum bandwagon. The dragoon has an early point that seems to me to stifle conversation rather than nourish it then jumps on the aforementioned bandwagon. At this stage theDragoon has my suspicion. If you're here then post. You call chyz scum and town in the same post. Then you call the IC scum. What a transparent method of gaining town cred. Why are you suspicious of dragoon? He's far down my list of scum at this point. | ||
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Okay I've read through the thread, and mistakenly thought chinstrap seemed scummy until i re-read that he is confirmed innocent child! I hate this post and the exclamation point even more. Yeah we get it you didn't read the game. You need to clarify it with an explanation point or are you trying to use such an easy method of gaining town cred? I didn't know he's town but I would have if I knew my scum team! | ||
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dragoon - what is that last post? I'm going to read his filter but I'd lynch him for martyring alone. Scum that gave up? I mean really it's day 1 with 24 hours to go in the game. Of course there's a way to "get out of this mess." owb - doing something, yay. Gonna look at filters only read the thread so far. be back in a few mins. | ||
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I'll make a quick summary case for people to pick apart and maybe it'll allow him to defend himself. On January 06 2014 09:55 theDragoon wrote: Guys, this is very difficult compared to mafia IRL. But if I'm to go with my experience playing with friends, the most vocal people at the start who try to take control of the game tend to be mafia. Random accusations seem suspicious as well, so based on what's been posted so far, my eye is on Balla24, sidesprang and TheChyz. Picks agro players and calls them scum. Then two posts later he calls Chyz town and then votes for him. A risk that a regular townie with no powers should be willing to make. odd. Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. I don't understand why he keeps contradicting himself in the same sentence. daywlker's bandwagoning but he likes it? Then talks about my pressure on Asuna and dismisses it completely without reason. Defending one player can easily build cred, especially if the other player made an effort to redeem their posting. The more I read it the more I dislike this post as well. Addressed @DW His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation. It feels so forced. The idea is that we have no reason to think he's town because he's thinking like a town player. I just don't buy it. Fuck, this could all be bad play is my biggest issue with lynching dragoon. His martyr play pisses me off enough to do it though. ##vote: the_dragoon | ||
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Picking the non-dragoon "scum buddy" makes it easier on you if dragoon flips town and yet doesn't hurt your cred at all if he's scum either. Unless td makes an exceptional entrance back into the thread I'm not changing my vote today but I'll make the case during the night. | ||
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That post was bad. He's agreeing with me but I just want owb to show some interest in the game. Nothing he did up to that point really screamed scum other than he likes to lurk when playing scum. I assume DW didn't know this when he posted. I don't like his play but dragoon needs to do something spectacular to change my mind. | ||
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Dragoon's martying and playing just as scummy. Bigdad's focusing on the second player in an accused "scum buddy" team. No matter what dragoon flips he benefits from voting daywalker instead of dragoon. Makes him look good if dragoon is town and says nothing if he's scum. I want focus here. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing. This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM me or the co-hosts if you need to leave the game. | ||
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The more I read these posts the more I dislike them. He's basically stating that he knows Asuna's "excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt" are due to her inexperience, and he's not leaving any room to interpret them as scummy. How would a town Dragoon be so sure? I'm more and more confident that the 'knows more about Asuna' line really is a scum slip. You summed up my bad feeling about those posts succinctly and better than I did by far. I agree with your points and my only doubt is sometimes people implode under pressure when they're town. He came back into the thread rejuvenated. This could easily be scum qt telling him not to quit and helping him form a defense. | ||
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If you're town and don't want to get lynched then make a case on derrida or bigdad. If they're worth looking at you can save a townie. I won't vote suki unless something changes. I like how she's posted today. As is, you're not scum hunting and I think there's a good chance you're scum. Do something to show otherwise. | ||
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Tell me chyz why should I say anything now? What's it going accomplish? Do some fucking work for yourself if you think bigdad is scum and td is not. Because I think td's scum and don't see a need to sidetrack on it. | ||
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If you want to lynch dnyarri I'm down for that one as well. Otherwise TD stayign at the top of my list. Who do you think should be lynched today then ballaman? Maybe I'm just being lazy. I'll reread the filters. | ||
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Post a case on why you think bigdad and derrida. Why should I want to lynch them over you? | ||
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I want to get rid of dragoon tho. It's going to be a weight on our back the rest of the game otherwise. TD I asked you to do something twice. Very directly. Suki could be scum. I have balla and suki as the most useful townies at this point. Either of them could be scum but they're not showing it today. | ||
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Pressure makes people play differently. | ||
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I really want to know if you want to lynch lurkers. I'm no topposed because you know that feeling the next day when it seems to late to start lynching lurkers? Yeah, I hate it. | ||
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Fuck, sorry I got here so late. We done screwed up. ##unvote ##vote: dnyarri | ||
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On January 07 2014 02:19 Balla24 wrote: I'm really not too fond of dnyarri atm..they just came into the thread, found the 2 most suspicious people and rehashed why they are suspicious without saying anything about anything else... It makes this game really hard now because there are so many suspicious people FMPOV, and they are all on similar levels. I can agree with almost every case out there... EVERYBODY is fluffing it up. So Dnyarri, why do you think dragoon is sketchier than some other people in the game.. what do you think of suki/jonny/me etc etc etc... On January 07 2014 05:07 Balla24 wrote: @dnyarii ATM, without re-reading... I really do like suki's case on him... BUT I am cautiously giving him an unconfident town read atm... would not lynch. On January 07 2014 16:59 Balla24 wrote: Dang... dnyarri is lurking like shit..... I wrote them off early I think because I liked the response here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723¤tpage=22#426 There's a lot of critical thinking there. But still... so little. Not sure i'd lynch.. gotta think about it. I'm having trouble figuring out what to do which is super weird for me T_T... Yeah that is quite strange for you. I remembered these posts vaguely and I hate every one of them. | ||
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Look at last game. I tried to get odin lynched two hours before deadline then said the entire town is fucking awful for not listening to me. | ||
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On January 07 2014 15:16 JonnyLaw wrote: I'm more confident in lynching him than other players. If you want to lynch dnyarri I'm down for that one as well. Otherwise TD stayign at the top of my list. Who do you think should be lynched today then ballaman? Maybe I'm just being lazy. I'll reread the filters. | ||
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This wasn't the worst lynch that could have happened but I let us down getting here too late today. | ||
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A number of people pointed out how easy this lynch was for us on day fucking one. Balla, owb and maybe suki come to mind. This is a valid point, including when balla asked me if scum are voting for td. Which is an odd question imo. Then I looked at his filter again on my phone and it's not really that bad. His final post sucks and like I said yesterday it was lazy play on my part riding him so hard without evaluating it again. Always check and double check. When something seems too easy there's a reason. Then, finally getting rid of a scummy lurker d1 is just good all around and he was possible to lynch even with 20 mins to go before deadline. These three things added up to being able to save TD and lynch scummy lurker. | ||
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On January 08 2014 07:14 chinstrap wrote: Balla if you are mafia and you made this post in the heat of the moment with ~30s left you deserve to win. That's only true if dnyarri and balla are both town. If they're both scum you realize balla controlled the last vote needed to lynch dnyarri right? If dnyarri's scum it doesn't necessarily mean balla is scum, he could be mistaken but it points in that direction. | ||
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Yerrida's play has been off from a town perspective. He enters with that post analyzing everyone. The reads don't really say anything. It's trying to show town participation while not helping move the game forward. Then he basically just calls other reads bad and sheeps DW hard. Why sheep DW then not vote with him on dnyarri? Derrida's play just doesn't make sense to me. Read these posts and let me know what you think because I'm flabbergasted after reviewing it for a while now. On a side note, Sidesprang's filter is stil ringing all kinds of alarm bells for me. AFK for 24+ hours, comes in to vote Dragoon with a justification similar to mine, then just pokes at Dragoon some wishy-washy questions that do not contribute anything to the discussion. If Dragoon is lynched and turns out Mafia, I would bet my house on Sidesprang to be Mafia as well, dat bus It's not even an accusation. It's more like ss agrees with him so he must be scum? What the hell is that post? Then these two posts. On January 07 2014 08:45 Derrida wrote: Fine, I will not further derail the thread about the value of voting, but I still think it's pointless. This just means that if the deadline was 2 minutes from now, I would vote like this. ## Vote TheDragoon Off to sleep, afk for 8ish hours. On January 07 2014 19:33 Derrida wrote: @Anyone online, what do you think about Asuna, TheChyz, and BigDad not having an active vote? | ||
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And again, suki you crushed this game. From 1-14 obs qt Scum lynched active players. If suki is scum they deserve this win. | ||
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It's not due to start for a couple weeks but come and play. | ||
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On January 17 2014 14:46 Balla24 wrote: explain why you always get killed faster than me then ![]() edit: die first* Cuz im bad. obv bro. | ||
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On January 18 2014 00:59 Xatalos wrote: Or, in this case, it was suki who was directing the townies ![]() True. Lurking town and active scum is a recipe to dead townies. | ||
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You'll confuse everyone. I demand more anger. | ||
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On January 18 2014 01:23 LoneMeow wrote: I think most of your cases gave the feel that you weren't really trying to push for the lynch. They were all decent cases and explained why you voted for someone, but the follow-up push to get others on the wagon seemed to be missing. That's a good point. Her cases left me as confused about certain players as before she posted. I hadnt really noticed it before. | ||
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Had I not died n1 I might have pushed balla lynch...to whatever level of success. | ||
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Derrida if you'd posted half as much in the thread as you did in scum qt you would have had a better game. You over thought your posts and plays too much. It's hard not to do this. *but I was right LM! Let me be right about one thing. Wish that thing had been lynching Bigdad and not that I'm dead. | ||
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