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BigDad
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@Day_Walker that posts makes sense to me, but where do we stand on Asuna if dnyarri flips green? | ||
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Tbh Personally I haven't had an in depth look at Asunas feed in a while, mainly been looking at Derrida, dnyarri and jonny. | ||
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Dynarri Evidently this guy has dodged a lynch two days in a row my questions is why? Is it because of a pro-town play style or is it because there have been 'better options' on each day. Funnily enough its the second one - and each time we choose someone else they have flipped town. This is curious, why on earth do we keep finding him to be the less scummy option? Lets have a look at his filter to determine whether he is actually contributing to the team. Check this bandwagoning he is doing: Day 1: dynarri jumps on theChyz bandwagon here Day 1: dynarri jumps onto theDragoon bandwagon and subsequent lynch here Day 2: dynarri spots possible opportunity of simultaneously bandwagoning onlywonderboy while posturing and preparing bandwagon onto me here Day 2: dynarri jumps onto the onlywonderboy bandwagono and subsequent lynch here Personally, looking at his filter I can't help but find him to be utterly scummy. Please take the time to look at that those links for me. Now that we can see his train of thought, lets go back to my initial question: "Why do we find him the less scummy option?" I DONT find him the less scummy option. He is consistently 'blowing in the wind' whichever way balla24 or popular demand takes his votes and it's working. Not only that, he has spent a lot of time out of the thread (which we realised when we initially decided to lynch him from lurking) but he is bandwagoning like no tomorrow. Where is the solid reasoning in his votes? Here, look at this reasoning for the OWB's mislynch: here which convieniently looks as if he has made some powerful reasoning when he links - but if you follow the link in that post... huh? where is the reasoning? he said it himself, he voted for OWB because OWB voted for him. That's a very irresponsible way to spend a vote. So now I ask "Why has he dodged a lynch two days in a row?" I'll post my analysis of theChyz shortly. | ||
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BigDad
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My case on theChyz (sorry i didn't get this into the nightpost, i had an action packed weekend) I'll start with Asuna's analysis of theChyz then move onto what I had previously: On January 12 2014 13:49 Asuna wrote: There's been so SK kill, and you're assuming that there's not a single non vanilla townie left? You said assuming no vigi or mason, but now you're assuming no cop, doc, or town RB as well. And assuming all that, therefore TTTTT is the setup and therefore there's no mafia RB which means I'm mafia? And that's why you're pushing with an instant lynch vote on me? Wtf logic is this. Like, you're literally assuming every remaining townie is a vanilla towning (if I'm reading http://wiki.mafiascum.net/?title=C9++ correctly). You looked scummy on day 1 and this rush to lynch with the dumbest logic ever just puts you back in the lynch seat for me. ##Vote: TheChyz coupled with On January 12 2014 13:56 Asuna wrote: Also, my read right now is that TheChyz is the mafia roleblocker. My reason for that read is that because no cops have come forward, and no doc saving has occurred on the two most obvious townies (Balla and JonnyLaw), he's assuming that I'm a town power role, either cop or doc (because I've been roleblocked every night). Assuming that, that makes 3 townie power roles, which makes it relatively unlikely that there is another one. I say that because it explains what he says about So he's expecting that I will be the only town power role to claim. Thus making me alone. You can combine what I just typed with what I typed above and have spoilered here: + Show Spoiler + On January 12 2014 13:49 Asuna wrote: There's been so SK kill, and you're assuming that there's not a single non vanilla townie left? You said assuming no vigi or mason, but now you're assuming no cop, doc, or town RB as well. And assuming all that, therefore TTTTT is the setup and therefore there's no mafia RB which means I'm mafia? And that's why you're pushing with an instant lynch vote on me? Wtf logic is this. Like, you're literally assuming every remaining townie is a vanilla towning (if I'm reading http://wiki.mafiascum.net/?title=C9++ correctly). You looked scummy on day 1 and this rush to lynch with the dumbest logic ever just puts you back in the lynch seat for me. ##Vote: TheChyz So Chyz is so mafia. Voting pattern: theChyz's playstyle focuses on submitting votes against players in rapid fire succession. This has proved to be a volatile gamestyle in the early stages of the game; he has since stood by this play style as a method of stirring discussion link. However if you take a deeper look at the way this play is 'facilitating' discussion you can see another pattern in his votes: Day 1: votes for Day_Walker link Day 1: votes for dnyarri link Day 1: votes for Day_Walker link Day 1: votes for theDragoon link Jumps onto theDragoon bandwagon. Not highly suspicious as a lot of people made this mistake. Day 2: votes for dnyarri link Day 2: votes for OWB link Day 2: votes for Asuna link Day 2: votes for OWB link Bounces between the major bandwagon of the day OWB and other players before switching right before the final tally. Coupled with the other analysis made in the thread this is scummy play. He gets to join the bandwagon while hiding behind his other votes on Asuna. Day 3: votes for Asuna link Asuna has claimed being roleblocked two days in a row; provided scum could have a roleblocker, which is highly likely given the structure of the game. I think this is a pretty good indicator of his innocence. theChyz is trying to get a mislynch onto Asuna so that he doesn't have to use another nightkill on someone he is roleblocking and suspects to be a power role. Inexplicable play by theChyz He currently has his vote on Asuna yet say this: Currently I think asuna, dnyarri, chinstrap, myself are town. With a 6v2 right now that makes it only having to pick out a pair out of the remaining 4. Those being DW, suki, bigdad, and sidesprang. I'm not sure if theChyz isn't following the conversations that have been going on, has not been reading the thread or his analysis is purely circumstantial and changes extremly quickly. However to me, it just summarizes his 'bouncy' play style is incriminating. Personally I think theChyz is scum. ##Vote: theChyz | ||
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BigDad
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theChyz and dnyarri. | ||
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@Sidestrang and Chinstrap, please come out of hibernation for today. We need to determine what is happening at lynch time. Please see Asuna's, Suki, Dnyarri and my own reasoning for why TheChyz is the scummiest pick at the moment. | ||
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On January 14 2014 05:14 sidesprang wrote: I did vote BigDad, and I also asked him a direct question for what I felt he needed to so I could understand his play. He refused to do so, so I just assume he dont have an explanation for it and that he is scum at this point. Sorry, I must have missed it. I'll go through your feed, give me a few moments. | ||
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Day_Walker Began super active, then became defensive when probed for analysis. Has re-visited thread intermittently to submit deflective comments and more recently join the bandwagon against myself. It is difficult to get a very strong town read on Day_Walker due to his inactivity, a solid half of his posts were made during the first day period. After which he follows popular trends and posts innocuous sentence length posts (see the next 6 posts after this one.) While short posts are not inherently scummy, i think the nature of these give a good indication if you look at what he is responding too. Additionally Mafia tend to get quite defensive. Again, this is not a 100% scum tell, but it certainly adds to the overall feel of Day_Walker's scum read. A non-exhaustive list below: Heated discussion with chinstrap: here. I realized that I was saying a lot of "not too much here, probably town", so I stopped and just posted what I had. In retrospect the post would have been stronger if I had just focused on my read of the interaction between you and Chyz. Speaking to Balla24 before his untimely death: It's weird that when I share my thoughts about someone, I include both sides I see, even the side that I ultimately disfavor? And finally he soft-defends me in his second post post then votes for me 48 hours later without. This by far is an interesting scum-tell; what is his reasoning? Day_Walker asks more questions than he answers. He secures my vote for Day 4. ##Vote: Day_Walker --------- --------- ---------- As for dnyarri Ran out of time on my break, essentially all the reasons I've covered previously. I'll write another post consolidating and elaborating on dynarri today. Strapped for time at work currently. I feel that Day_Walker is currently our biggest concern. @Town, was anyone roleblocked last night? | ||
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