EPTFinally a game with a major.
I am already working on my campaign. It will involve lynching people that martyr & selfvote.
#Koshi4Mayor2013
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Finally a game with a major. I am already working on my campaign. It will involve lynching people that martyr & selfvote. #Koshi4Mayor2013 | ||
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"Time to die" | ||
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On November 07 2013 08:41 GMarshal wrote: Mmmm, mayor elections... You wont win vs me. | ||
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On November 07 2013 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi if i join the game and vote you for mayor do i get candies? I am running for Mayor, but this game is basically won if you join my campaign as running mate. | ||
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On November 12 2013 16:05 Onegu wrote: Im going to go for a 22 page filter as either alignmemt this game. See how it goes. I am still looking for a chief of press for my campaign as Mayor. Interested? | ||
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On November 12 2013 19:26 Onegu wrote: Just you watch people dont realize I am normally around, but just dont have much to add. Now I will add everything that pops into my head... My ideal Chief of Press. | ||
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On November 13 2013 04:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can I get a job too? I make a good mascot. How is your reputation with the other respected elders? I would be grateful if you would push votes for me from them. I am pretty sure you were already long around when there were some youngings playing their first mafia game. | ||
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On November 13 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi i thought it was clear i applied for the chief of press job? I will tell you all now i will not run for mayor regardless of my alignment. Koshi will. You are my running mate. | ||
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We wont be friends. | ||
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On November 14 2013 00:21 Alakaslam wrote: What button? I ain't got no d6 and work finally slowed down and I discovered the world is not 1,000,000,000 jerks and thanks to Coagulation, and Resistance mafia, I realized you are right- I can actually make sense! :D Vote me for Mayor and I will hire you as minister for entertainment. | ||
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On November 04 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote: 9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits. Waitttttt. How am I going to win mayor elections if I can't pay bribes? | ||
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ffs, I don't think I can be Mayor in this town. Stupid big games are pretty hard as well. In Minis I can be confident, but these big games D: too many people to remember. | ||
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But I wont keep that against you. | ||
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On November 15 2013 03:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: what ballpark am I in if im at the top of my game? ![[image loading]](http://weblog.flippie.nl/images/ballenbak.jpg) | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote: im gonna vote VE for mayor he has consistently lynched scum day 1 as town mayor at omgus.net I can back it with links if yall want. Also as scum? | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes Koshi, i am THE town! I am going to be totally hardcore scumhunting this game. Anyday. Everyday. Join me. | ||
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Also prior 1 is still scumhunting. prior 14 is townhunting for a Mayor. | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:55 yamato77 wrote: Disappointed. Why talk about running pregame and then not do it once it starts? I don't know what to say so you guys love me and vote me D: | ||
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On November 15 2013 19:25 OOHCHILD wrote: Kochi, your opinion on rayne? No opinion yet. But since he rolled so much scum lately he better trow out that *new* meta he is persuing and be his townie self on D1. Because the mob will not tolerate passive play from rayn this game. I am part of the mob. | ||
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Let's wait to see what he actually does with that Mason. | ||
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On November 15 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes Koshi he is town for masoning yamato. No, he is not town for masoning yamato. Or explain to me why it is litterally impossible for scum to mason yamato. | ||
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On November 15 2013 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because it's really bad scumplay and Lonemeow as scum mason would have gone into scumchat and asked what to do with the mason instead of picking someone, especially yamato, from the playerlist. How do you know Lonemeow picked Yamato out of the playerlist randomly as town? Why would Lonemeow do that as town? Is there an history between Lonemeow and Yamato that you know about? How are you so sure that scum didn't tell LoneMeow to do so? How do you know scum LoneMeow won't lurk 24/7 in this game like in Noir? Making 2 posts a day and simply riding the Mason claim for today? | ||
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Explain to me why you Masoned Yamato. | ||
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Worst reason ever. Why Yamato. Because do you see how people like rayn give LoneMeow a townread for picking Yamato. But how did LoneMeow now this before reading the thread that he had to Mason Yamato. Why not somebody he played with in the newbies? Or somebody that understand how he posts. Or somebody he scumhunts easy with. Why Yamato | ||
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On November 15 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote: Koshi Since you're asking dumb questions. Here is one for you. Were you serious about advocating a policy lynch? I want BH to be awesome. | ||
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Why Yamato? | ||
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On November 15 2013 23:15 LoneMeow wrote: Because I got the impression that he's pretty solid player when he's town from LXII, so I want to know if he's town in this one, and I think I stand a better chance outside the thread. Ok, let us know how that goes. | ||
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Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post: On November 15 2013 08:59 supersoft wrote: okay okay okay, i think we need to elect me for mayor. Otherwise it's yet another game where i pass away n1. Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this? On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote: Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown. I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all. On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote: lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote: You mean this peace of wisdom??? On November 15 2013 09:24 supersoft wrote: Write me off and "observe others" you're pretty dodgy. ... You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2? Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm? | ||
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On November 15 2013 23:47 Mocsta wrote: koshi..., the credibility keeps dropping, wtf..,, if filter dived as for real, its clear ve is town and yam is town.,,, koshi, again, why aren't u running for mayor? I don't even know what you are saying here. But I would say that Yam and VE look pretty town. Are you telling me that supersoft his actions that I quoted proved that and therefore can't be scum or what? I don't know why I should run for Mayor. For me running for Mayor is just for shit and giggles. But I simply didn't know how to approach it early game. | ||
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On November 16 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi why are you so weird? Are you scum? Nha. | ||
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@BC StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts. Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum. @rayn Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy. | ||
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You might be on to something. Here is Holyflare his scum game in Hogwarts (filter) Here is Holyflare his town game in newbie XLVII game. (filter) Here is Holyflare his town game in newbie XLVI game (filter) Holyflare makes a shitton of cases as either alignment but he seems to force his cases down people their throats when he is town. But when he is scum he asks a lot more questions to lure people into investing time in his cases. Something like that. | ||
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On November 16 2013 03:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't have a single scumread of the following players and would like to hear from them their answer to two very simple questions: 1. Who is scum? 2. Why? The following players are: Mattchew, Koshi (!!, already has 3 pages of filter), Storrzerg, Skanjab1s, hiro protagonist, Hopeless1der, Stutters695, Spaghetticus, VayneAuthority, Mr. Cheesecake, and BlazingHand. Some of these haven't posted yet but I want them to tell me as soon as they've caught up. From the vets/actives I am not a supersoft fan. I said why. I am still waiting on follow ups/more posts from others. | ||
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On November 16 2013 04:43 supersoft wrote: So you're no fan or do you think I am scum? I just find it odd that you were such a friendly fellow in Hogwarts who was more in the background helping around. It was only after you died N1 that I found out that you were a vet. This game you entered the thread elbows forward and smacked down VE/Yamato and started the early shitfest between you people. Don't know if it is scummy. But it isn't ideal at all. | ||
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I just don't know where to look yet. Why was I town early game rayn? | ||
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On November 16 2013 04:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol in Aperture you were like confirmed town at this point of the game. Yeah and in Noir I didn't do jack shit till the end of Day 1 and start yelling you were scum. Well, I did make a case on Mocsta about stuff. Aperture I wasn't too awful in early game. I give you townpoints for thinking about a game in which you were town. | ||
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ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter. I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird". Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum. | ||
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On November 16 2013 05:06 supersoft wrote: note: Apologizes for bad start. note: He critisized me for my aggressive opener. ______________________________________________________________________ rayn, who of you two is the more experienced player? I criticize you for being rude towards 2 people who were being pretty town and shitting up town atmosphere instead of making it hard for scum to enter or something like that. That's what I am criticizing you for. It was completely unnecessarily for you to enter like you did and it didn't help anybody. Also, I am not apologizing for my play at all. I am just saying I start slow and I am not scared/insecure/restricted like rayn wants you to believe. | ||
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On November 16 2013 05:08 VayneAuthority wrote: well you know what it means when koshi and rayn don't like eachother, one is scum well you know what it means when Koshi and rayn don't like each other early and vayn points it out. vayn is scum. (Golden Sun) | ||
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On November 16 2013 05:10 supersoft wrote: he is not convincing anybody...? Why do you note that. Is this an indicator for scummy play? Meh, he would try harder when he would be town and really found something that everybody else missed. Also like everybody said, his first 2 points were moot and rayn didn't bother find more reasons to why Holyflare is scum, he just hammers on the fact Holyflare called him town for reasons he shouldn't. Which isn't too big tbh. | ||
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And your case on Holyflare isn't convincing at all. I am not convinced. I don't even see what you are saying. Which happens a lot when you are scum. Really. Give me in points on why Holyflare is scum again. 1) 2) 3) 4) I am totes town. So convince me. | ||
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Also, nobody is convinced that Holyflare is scum from what you said. | ||
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It's just sad. | ||
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On November 16 2013 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll provide an updated list soon - I'm awaiting input from a select few. What do you think about Pandain? Sneak Peek: Pandain is on the new list. He is one of the people we have to wait and see for. Pandain dares to make cases and have thread presence as scum, him lurking is not the biggest scumtell yet for me. He might be afraid because I could feel yamato/VE/SS/BC as all town, however, you all haven't done much scumhunting together or make it especially hard for scum people to blend in (why I am a bit hesitant to give ss a townread after the way he entered but yeah...) . So imo there is no real reason for scum to be afraid and hide tbh. But we still have +24 hours till lynch so a lot of magic can happen. There are more people I expect more posting from till I can look at people like Grack and the other on your list to start thinking off them as scum. He is simply to active atm. | ||
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Going to go with this for now mainly because I am a sucker for statistics. | ||
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On November 16 2013 09:05 StorrZerg wrote: not sure what you mean by this. or what your getting at. and unlike most of you guys i guess, i'm never truly "confident" in my reads. I don't know who is mafia, i don't know the 3p, or who town are. Ill give my reads, Ill say my opinions/reads. You gave 1 guy a scumread in 1 sentence without going into detail. I ask if you are confident gutreading him after you two were buddy buds in Hogwarts. | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote: Koshi, are you around? yes | ||
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On November 16 2013 10:17 austinmcc wrote: I was going to ask you about rayn/Vayne, after ... whatever that recent game we were all in was. Double Cop Sandwich mafia. But I know you've written a decent bit about rayn. Could you talk a little more here?I like the point, and I get what you're saying, but is this just a gut feeling that he's talking about you but not with you? Or is this a specific thing that you have picked on in past scum games of his, a scumrayn indicator? Also, you sort of maybe half-jokingly called vayne scum for pointing out you and rayn fighting. But...I put less than zero credence in that point you mentioned. Do you have any actual thoughts on vayne's play so far this game? It comes down to this. He gave me a slight townread early on and then out of nowhere he goes "Koshi why are you playing so weird" after I made a case on supersoft I think. While we love to scumhunt together and he went from town to scum on me without even trying to talk to me and check me out. I am pretty sure that the easiest way for him to read me is to interact with me. But he refuses to do it except a bit earlier in which he calls me scum... Nha, rayn is scum for me. Vayne tried to be cute so I was cute as well. | ||
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VE is rayn on your lynch list? | ||
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Can you explain to me how you are approaching this game? How are you trying to lynch scum? | ||
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Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads. Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case. Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily. (PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter) Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him. supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though. Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes. _________ What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't. The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that. Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum. | ||
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He doesn't deserve it. But it's BH. But if rayn proves to be town, BH good target. | ||
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On November 16 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am correct and i am amused by the fact that noone other than BC has commented on the best case there is. You agree his case on HoleFlare is the best case there is? Is it even close to rayn level? Who will lynch rayn? | ||
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On November 17 2013 01:23 yamato77 wrote: On Rayn: LM mentioned this in mason chat and asked me what I thought. Multiple times this game, Rayn has given out townreads on a whim, which some people have attacked him for. While you may not agree with his logic, I don't think mafia Rayn would just hand these out like candy, because he can't renegee on them later without catching flak for it. He's been consistent about his pressure on HF this game, perhaps to the point of tunneling. While mafia Rayn can defintiely tunnel, I think he's been rather reasonable about it despite his many posts, and it makes me question how I read holyflare. This is also a small town tell, worth noting anyway. I don't think Rayn is a good lynch at all. I actually am on his side in the HF/Rayn debate. 1) Sure he can trow out towntells without reasoning. As if he can't come back from it when he writes a good case. 2) On November 04 2013 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck you if you lynch me today. i refuse to get lynched because i am town. On November 04 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Unvote: ##Vote: Oatsmaster marv why are you doing this? why are you stalling the discussion because you think i might be scum for some non-existent evidence when there is acutally evidence that points out people being scum? don't do this plz if you are town, i don't like it. if you are just OMGUSing me because i called you scum for reasons similar to yours (weak - i admit - but i think or at least thought i was right) stop it. i am willing to look the game objectively and reconsider. why are you not? you are better regarding that than i am, usually, why not now? stop the tunnel, stop being mad at me and play the game, find scum. please, if you are town, please. because i really hate myself if i get lynched as town. PS: He was scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 01:28 yamato77 wrote: Using that post as justification for a scum read on Rayn. What? Why would you say that is the only thing. That's 1 reason out of the 156751 why I have a scum read on rayn. And it is a good reason. | ||
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Is there a chance that you will lynch rayn? | ||
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On November 17 2013 01:32 yamato77 wrote: Koshi, instead of arguing with me over why I think Rayn is townish, have you posted anything on why you think he's mafia? It would be more productive. Why isn't this good? And rayn giving away 3 townreads is so null... + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 00:39 Koshi wrote: Rayn Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads. Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case. Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily. (PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter) Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him. supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though. Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes. _________ What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't. The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that. Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum. | ||
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Well I am sad. %wise I am certain he is the best choice. I think he rolled scum and his plan is to play a passive game and see how far he can ride it. Maybe get more involved when he gets interested. Ah ffs... | ||
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##vote: Koshi I don't support your reads. Skanj4b: nha Pandain: nha just isn't playing hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha. Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today. Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why? | ||
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Anyway. I am only up for a rayn lynch today. Tomorrow I will see. | ||
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Does this read change when BH comes back and posts shit? | ||
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Sure it still is suicide. What I say doesnt matter when VE gets to pick. And I am with Skanjabis on VE his lynch target picks. Btw Grack not being here after his earlying trolling makes him town. | ||
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On November 17 2013 02:14 yamato77 wrote: You say that like you have confidence that BH is town and will actually come back and be useful. I have none. On the contrary. | ||
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On November 17 2013 02:26 Skanjab1s wrote: I like you for mayor koshi, but I doubt its going to be possible to get the votes off of VE/yam, I shall show my support for you nevertheless. I am not getting mayor. But rayn is scum and maybe this way he will get lynched. | ||
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On November 17 2013 02:26 yamato77 wrote: Koshi, even if you are right, there are more mafia out there. I'll admit, he's not the towniest dude in the game, but I don't trust D1 reads on Rayn. Was I right about him in Noir? Was I right to suspect him in Witchcraft? Did we lynch him in ##? All yes. And in ## my feelings on him were stronger than I showed D3. While in every towngame we played I had him as pretty much confirmed town and we got along. Even in Golden Sun in which we only at the start were having issues. He is not trying to appear town and for that.alone he is scum. But I would let that slide if it wasnt for the fact he calls me scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Voting for yamato for mayor Telling people who is scum (your posting got a little better, maybe i am just wrong about you). Telling yamato to kill Holyflare What am i supposed to be doing? Why is yamato town? I dont see it. | ||
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On November 17 2013 07:05 austinmcc wrote: Cheesecake this game vs. Cheesecake in Mega Sandwich Mafia. Go! I do not care about cheesecake. He is a nobody. If I was on pc I could run some filters to check meta and to please you but I am on phone. I remember CC being a nobody in thug life as scum. But in Aperture he was scum and interested. In Noir he was a nobody. So I dont waste time on people like CC when there is rayn being obvious.scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: On the other hand i am happy Koshi can't still read me for shit. :p ..or is scum.. nah.. Koshi is not scum. You really believe Holyflare is scum still? | ||
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On November 17 2013 07:22 Pandain wrote: Are you talking to me Koshi! No. But what did you say in your mason chat to supersoft that he thinks you are scum? | ||
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On November 17 2013 07:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: No he didn't become town to me. Why? Oh I thought you voted for him but it seems you didnt. Is VA town? | ||
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On November 17 2013 07:29 Pandain wrote: I don't know I think it's that I didn't want to vote him right away. So you and Mig are his only 2 scumreads. Supersoft is rocketing to become mayor and you are not worried he says you are scum without any reasons why, except for your mason chat which nobody can read but in your eyes is perfectly fine. I cant find it in the rules, but is mason chat allowed to be copied? You know? | ||
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On November 17 2013 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not sure. There were some towntells in his posts but i really am not sure. I would hope he would give his read on me, you and Pandain and him not doing so is worrisome. What about him focussing so much on supersoft? | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know what do you want me to answer? He doesn't really give any sort of read on supersoft. He just doesn't want ss to be mayor and i don't think that's alignement indicative for Vayne regardless of supersoft's alignment. Well VA hasnt given any reads except that BC & SS shouldnt be mayor. Is he pushing another scum candidate by smearing ss & bc? Like yamato? Or is he concerned that ss and bc are scum? | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:18 Pandain wrote: Koshi I like never get lynched honestly, more by always being suspicious then skill. I'm not worried about it because he has better targets and is already reconsidering me. Are you going to change off of VE? No. But I like ss more than yamato atm. Can you quickly comment on VE, SS and Yam? | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi why do you think Pandain did not mason me? Dont know. But it's not that you 2 have been working together to find scum in recent games. If he wants to be proven town by you he can do it in the thread as well. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: what would be excellent would be if vayne is actually scum and some jubber lynches me today Va, rayn & yamato scumteam. What do you think? | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:28 Grackaroni wrote: There is almost certainly one scum between Rayn and Koshi. They honestly both look quite bad. They won't both be scum due to Koshi's reaction to being accused by Rayn. Maybe you could point out who the scum one instead of pointing out that we are arguing. People have noticed that. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:32 Grackaroni wrote: It's not that you are arguing; I could totally see you two bussing one another as scum. It's the fact that you omgused so quickly after Rayn attacked you. There's no way you knew that Rayn would accuse you. So much dumb... 1) rayn and I would never buss each other. 2) how did I "omgused". I still dont know.what that term exactly means tbh. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:39 Pandain wrote: Koshi what was the point of your votes I am not sure but I think ss gets preference over yamato. | ||
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Agreed. But I dont want yamato elected and now I am really sad he is above ss. VE seems to only care about vest. Rally people so that both VE and ss are elected. | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Grack is taking both of our sides in the argument.  He calls me scum for what you have, and he calls you scum for what i did earlier on. I was thinking the same thing. Fucking Grack. | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:57 Grackaroni wrote: This kind of casual accusation doesn't help your case. I think you've both done scummy things but I haven't looked closely enough yet to actually figure out which is scum. No. It helps him greatly. Show where I am scared. Stating that I played scared.this game is ridiculous. | ||
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On November 17 2013 10:20 thrawn2112 wrote: sup HEY KOSHI <3 Hi. GL & HF in this game. It's going to be though... | ||
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Shoot rayn if you have balls and want to hit scum. Shoot LM if you dont have balls and want 50/50 odds. | ||
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PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum. | ||
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If rayn found scum, everybody knows why that person is scum. This game we dont know why Holyflare is scum in rayns mind even though rayn made posts about how his case is the best and how he doesnt have to repeat why Holyflare is scum. | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's funny how the people who can actually read me don't call me scum (yamato and Onegu) and basically everyone else does. Go ahead and make a big case Koshi, nobody knows why you think i am scum. For 2morroz | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:30 Onegu wrote: Koshi can you comment on austin? Austin is town in my book. | ||
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Rayn, VA, yamato, LM, BH | ||
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He called me town multiple times and makes big posts. | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think he actually says anythingwith those posts? Skimmed over them. Searched for names I was interested in. No red flags. | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi apparently is not interested in playing this game. Wonder what taht means. Am I scum again? | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:55 VayneAuthority wrote: aight im here, we all know im gonna get shot by a vig so if anyone has any questions shoot Is ausstin or Holyflare scum? | ||
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Did you read why ausstin says I am town? It's legit. | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:58 VayneAuthority wrote: austin I have currently right outside the spectrum of my initial scum reads, if one of them flips town I would go to him as scum yes. Holyflare I honestly haven't paid attention to much tbh, I saw rayn was attacking him so I just let him do that and see what happens. So both holyflare and ausstin are not with your initial six. In which BC and supersoft are the leading candidates I guess. Who are the other 4? | ||
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On November 18 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i don't know why are you posting here now if you are notinterested in telling people who is scum and why and you are not interested in discussing anything. Idk, should i think you are town for it? Scummers are Yamato, VA, Storrzerg and yourself. The other 2 are within lurkers. | ||
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On November 18 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote: Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read. What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers? His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say. | ||
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Maybe serious. Also Grack: On November 18 2013 06:43 Grackaroni wrote: Talk to me about this post. From the first line I get the impression that you liked BC's Grack/Storrzerg scum post, yet you don't seem to agree with any of the reasoning he throws out for either me or Storrzerg being scum. Pretty sure that BC his post came between those 2. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote: I am referring to the first line in your 2nd post. Well he came back with reads. Guess that's it. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:26 VayneAuthority wrote: even yamato knows im town this game lol, that is out of the question Vayn, you just made a post that implied Onegu was scum based on the fact that rayn says that Onegu is right about a bunch of unflipped players. Classic scum Vayne. | ||
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You could also easily be scum btw. It's a scum party in here atm. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:33 yamato77 wrote: I'm actually quite sure Kosh is mafia. Usually he has his own logic, but I fail to understand anything he's posting, and usually when he posts nonsensically, he's scum. Yeah, because there are so many great examples of me being scum lying around. rofl. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:35 VayneAuthority wrote: hey so this is important, safe to say that both rayn and koshi have scum reads on me right? answer with yes or no Koshi is yes. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:47 Alakaslam wrote: Koshi my gut did the same thing. Look at my pleas with the guy. Point me towards it pl0x | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:07 Alakaslam wrote: Roughly pages 3-4 of my filter, sprinkled between 2-5. But that is basically reading the whole thing. The only thing I see is a bird that looks tasty with cranberry sauce. | ||
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I was talking about StorrZerg. I would say Storrzerg = scum. Mattchew = Lurky lurk lurk | ||
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Pretty sure I explained rayn scumread. The other ones are scum but not my main concern but sure: Yamato: Scum mayor but couldn't care enough to make it. VA: I feel like he is pushing an agenda. StorrZerg: I feel it in my gut. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe you should make the case on me before the night ends because if you don't i think you should be lynched if i die. Also noone knows why you think i am scum. Pretty sure I wont die. And if I die people know. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not what i said. I said you should be lynched in case i die if you do not make the case. Pretty sure you wont die. But if you do I will be a sad panda tomorrow. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:55 StorrZerg wrote: why? do you have reason? or did i just miss your post This: On November 16 2013 09:14 StorrZerg wrote: my opinion this game has nothing to do with previous game. i feel his posts have had lack of reason for his reads, and poor content thus he is leaning scummy | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi if you are town you are digging a pretty big hole to yourself right now. Because if you are scum the optimal play is to shoot me because i won't get docced either way and you get a free pass from D1 because you start from clean. So please if you are town tell me why do you think i am scum so i can form a read on you so you will not get lynched tomorrow if you are town. If you do not give the read on me before night ends i am willing to believe you are scum. I am town. You said I was scum. for shitty reasons after I made a case on ss on whom you also had a scumread. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: I said you were weird. Then you continued to be weird. Why can't you be happy Koshi? I like happy Koshi, it's much better to work with you when you are happy because i can actually trust you to be town. After kills I will re-evaluate. sleep now. | ||
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I might have been wrong on some reads. ##vote: Blazinghand Stop fakeclaiming as scum. Stop being inactive as scum. Grack town due to Mocsta flip. BH case on Grack pretty bad. | ||
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But I am sleeping 4realz now. rayn we can be friends again. | ||
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Don't know yet where to start. Both rayn and VA make sense after flips. I might have been wrong about everything. D: | ||
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Would be too easy that both BH and BC are scum. Kinda would prefer it if Grack is scum. Also, the things BC said make sense if they are correct. | ||
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On November 18 2013 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi this is really bad. Of course everything one says makes sense if they are correct. What the hell is this? I mean the meta search he did. About Mocsta not talking about his teammates. That stuff. | ||
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On November 18 2013 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Koshi I remember you had a supersoft scumread earlier, did that change and why? Yeah that was like way way way back. I changed it because I was too tunneled on rayn/yamato/vayne. I don't like supersoft as scum, more as superman. Not sure though. | ||
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On November 18 2013 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Koshi I remember you had a supersoft scumread earlier, did that change and why? On November 17 2013 09:57 supersoft wrote: okay i guess I'd kill mocsta. I believe he's scum. I am rereading him again. This was right before supersoft might have been mayor. Pretty sure supersoft confirmed town or he knew VE was around to kill Skanjab. So let's say supersoft close to confirmed town. | ||
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Now with both BC and BH targetting Grack, and Grack saying I am scum I would be inclined to believe Grack is scum. But if Grack is scum I can only see Grack being scum with people like Pandain/Oats/Mattchew peeps like that. No offense to these guys but if they were scum they would kill people like BH/BC/Yamato over bluehunting Sharrant and Spag. So I think that there are pretty skilled bluehunters in the scumteam. BH/BC fit that ill. Even though I think BC might not be scum. But BH is. | ||
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On November 18 2013 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Actually, forget I ever said any of this because it's an invitation to discuss stuff unrelated to scumhunting and gives scum a chance to blend in. Any opinions on Thrawn? itm got him as town because he instantly tried to play the game. | ||
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On November 18 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey koshi, is Rayn still scum? Only in a team with you and Grack. | ||
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I just find BC quite interesting and believing to read. | ||
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Could you guys read page 4 of BC his filter and tell me that is scummy? imo it is pretty good. | ||
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1) We lynch BH 2) BH tells us his scumreads after 120 hours of game. 3) VE uses double lynch if BH is believable 4a) If BH flips town we use 1 of the lynch as courtesy to BH 4b) If BH flips scum we are full of joy and just lynch 2 other scummers D3 yay | ||
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On November 18 2013 23:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: One thing that instantly strikes me is how he changes his read on Storr from scum to null. A possible motivation for that could be knowing that Mocsta's going to shoot him during the night phase, and this way he'll look slightly better. Yeah, but do you think scum already knew they would shoot StorrZerg? And do you think scum were the ones making Storrzerg a viable shot for towncred? Mocsta didn't have to claim and could have easily shot somebody else. Looks more like Mocsta was gathering towncred with that shot, from BC, because he is town. | ||
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On November 18 2013 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Artanis i will now explain this in detail. If Koshi was scum he would know i am town. He would also be aware there are no cops, framers or millers because his scumteam has no framers 100%. I ask him a weird question. He also knows me pretty well. He would therefore know there is something i am trying to achieve with my question. What is rayn after? What's he trying to accoplish with this? What the fuck do i need to answer. Therefore - as scum - he would most likely give an answer that can't go wrong with, which would be "lol rayn there are not cops in this game". rayn next time I am scum, because it has been way too long, I am going to dazzle you. But this game I am town so I couldn't dazzle you. | ||
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BH Mig VE BC SS And with Spag/Storr/Sharrant being shot I guess that it is likely there is scum there. | ||
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On November 19 2013 00:02 Onegu wrote: Rayn is heavy heavy town to me, I was able to spot him as scum in witchcraft early. This game is really different his tunnels have meaning and conviction that they lacked in WC mafia. Oats I am null on I still havent got to his filter yet as I have been lazy today. My notes on pandain I have him as town and dont really see why people are calling him really scummy, but I also have never really played with him either. Give me reads on HF, VA, VE VE: is looking horrible because his 4 scumreads (Storr, Skanjab, Grack and Sharrant) just all flipped town except Grack but he looks not too bad atm and spagg that was suspicious of him just died... VA: My gut says he is a bit off but really... imo we should lynch BH today and if he is scum Alakaslam had something to tie BH to VA. HF: Don't see it. But rayn is town for today. Wouldn't lynch HF today though. | ||
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On November 19 2013 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: BC literally says "looking at Mocsta's scum meta he does never talk about his scumbuddies" but right after that he says "but from the people he talks about Grack is scum". He uses Mocstas meta to say "these guys are town" with no other justification but then contradicts himself in sayind "but hey, this is why Grackaroni is scum". Yeah but he gives reasoning for that and it's not the worst. You really feel BC for scum? What about VA and CC pushing LM as scum after Mocsta flip? Yamato vouched for LM and he flipped town. And for some reason LM is active in QTs... | ||
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On November 19 2013 00:13 Onegu wrote: Rayn I did the samething on grack as BH did, but you guys know my mindset as scum (bus all day everyday). Not sure grack should just get a free pass. Koshi did you see my most recent post on HF? Do you read that post as him haveing a null read on LM like he claims? Yeah and here are quotes from VA and CC pushing LM as well. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote: three people of interest developed from mocsta's filter: kush, artanis and LM. really buddy buddy with kush and they just have casual conversation where as most of the time mocsta's tone is extremely angry. abrupt changes when he talks to kush pretty strange. really angry back and forth with artanis for ages, would be hard to fake as scum on scum. artanis is probably town randomly of all people asks LM if he has caught up with the thread and says he doesn't want to think or talk about LM at all. When he and LM converse it looks fake as hell and completely useless. On November 18 2013 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I am starting to see LM as scum too. 10/10 would lynch. Don't know if it is anything yet. | ||
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On November 19 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can totally tell you i have a rocksolid case on BC when BH flips red. 100% Well, VE should use double lynch for tomorrow. BH green --> We lynch BH scumread + we look for 1 more BH red --> We lynch BC + we look for 1 more 100% | ||
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On November 19 2013 01:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote: To be quite honest this is a terrible post. You aren't notified if you are roleblocked. However, if you have a role and use it that would normally give you intel back (tracker for instance) you just dont get a pm of findings, ie you'd know you were blocked because you had 0 findings. That's rayn his point. BH says he isn't a tracker, but in the same sentence knows that he wasn't RB. How did he know he wasn't RB when he did no night action? | ||
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On November 19 2013 01:26 thrawn2112 wrote: Hi koshi! How are you doing? why can't you just sheep me like in WC2? BH isn't scum! Hey, I am totally willing to lynch BH his scumread on D3 if that is the case. But this is exactly how BH played in both Golden Sun (claimed survivor and N1 survivor got died and BH got lynched) or Hogwarts (claimed medic and didn't do shit). Also, BH will need to convince us in the thread that he isn't scum. I got a guy Masoning me as well that doesn't speak in the thread. It's annoying. | ||
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On November 19 2013 01:30 Grackaroni wrote: I'm actually kind of curious about why he was so angry towards me. I don't think I did anything mean to him this game. Might just be jealous that I saw through his scum play without even trying. rofl... | ||
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On November 19 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote: oh my god blazinghand pls get in here pls blazinghand I wonder what BH whispered in your ear. Must have been unbelievable sexy. | ||
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On November 19 2013 02:06 OOHCHILD wrote: bc is making sense to me. Mocsta treated grack differently than he treated anyone else which is indicative of a scum connection. Yeah I agree that bc makes sense on that. | ||
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On November 19 2013 02:09 thrawn2112 wrote: rayn holy fucking hell. if you're town this game like i'm thinking then I'm pretty sure I will never misread you again. can we not have a repeat of desert mafia? can you stop being so fucking stubborn and spamming the thread while not reading anything I say? I've tried to talk to you about my reads in the qt.remember I said I didn't want us to argue in the thread, because I think you're town and I know from experience what happens when town rayn and town thrawn start talking? i've tried to talk to you about my blazinghand town read in the qt. you basically told me to STFU and that you REFUSE to think about any of the points I bring up regarding my scumreads or BH town reads jeez I need a fucking cig :D See town rayn arrived. I can totally not be blamed for not noticing D1. | ||
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On November 19 2013 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then i will reconsider. But i can tell you BH is not going to flip green. There is no fucking way that's gonna happen. I am with you but I put it on 70%/30%. I need to known what BH said to thrawn. | ||
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On November 19 2013 02:18 Alakaslam wrote: If there are scum vets they are all scum O_o Koshi what? It's from likely to less likely. | ||
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On November 19 2013 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi could you tell me who masoned you? The stray kitten. | ||
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On November 19 2013 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote: I have given my reasoning, just ignore the first page of my filter. I can't see that conversation between oats and mocsta happening as scum on scum. I don't have him as confirmed town yet but like I said, don't think he's scum. I thought he was scum in ## mafia because he played slightly differently but he was just town there too. What? You were scum in ## mafia? | ||
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On November 19 2013 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote: @koshi I meant thug life of course, where I misread oats terribly and made you do a bad shot @VE that early in the game? ill admit if i was wrong of course but im not going to vote for oats btw you forgot supersoft in your list. Where is he? Kinda unique to see you give lists. Quite certain are we? LM is in mason with me btw. I could ask him to mason you next time. | ||
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On November 19 2013 08:16 VayneAuthority wrote: supersoft is the last person in my slightly town row, he's there. everybody in the game is on that list. woops. True. | ||
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On November 19 2013 08:23 VayneAuthority wrote: Have you any idea why a raven is like a writing desk? I think you have to sum up/paraphrase but you can ask them in PMs to make sure Alice in Wonderland and I asked marv. | ||
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On November 19 2013 08:42 OOHCHILD wrote: why did he mason you To figure out my alignment. | ||
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On November 19 2013 09:14 OOHCHILD wrote: Why dont you think he is scum? because i do Yeah I liked what VA said about him. He is being confident in the QT. | ||
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On November 19 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote: Btw guys. I am pretty confident, that coagulation and BH are our assassins. Shoot eachother n2 please, but don't bother our business! We should lynch BH. | ||
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Might be strange if BH survives a long time playing pro town though. meh. lynch lynch lynch | ||
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On November 19 2013 10:02 thrawn2112 wrote: because I thought revealing it would start a bunch of useless discussion about someone I thought was town. objectively what he told me "looks" really scummy, it's the type of thing that you lynch people every time for and that's a big part of why I think he ISN'T scum i'd hoped that he'd show up and show his colors... but this did not happen. lol it's basically a desperation move Still 24 hours away till lynch. You could have waited. Better not some ploy between you and BH. I'll wait with the conspiracy theories till BH flips though. Like... You think he is town after a tracker + assassin claim? Because you can't possible believe he is assassin or outing him atm is actually antitown because scum won't shoot him tonight while the other assassin kills him and it's the same story... You should have waited till 1-2 hours before the lynch if you really thought he was town/assassin and you were certain you had a 100% scumread. Sleep time for moi. | ||
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On November 19 2013 10:08 Risen wrote: Meh, the people strongly advocating a BH lynch are the scummy to me How can you not lynch BH right now? | ||
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Also what about Mocsta/Grack bussing each other? The sum is that we will always pick You (BH) over Grack to lynch if it is between you two. You should understand that is optimal play. Tomorrow is double lynch so feel free to point out 2 scummers and make cases around them. If you flip town Grack will be under great suspicion and people like BC will look better. Talking about vets. How do you feel about SS, Mig and BC? Also VE. Our Mayor. God Bless his Soul. | ||
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On November 19 2013 17:39 LoneMeow wrote: Not sure what you'll count as active, but: BlazingHand Pandain HolyFlare And of the lurkers, Mattchew. Not the worst names. | ||
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He also asked me this: "Reading through Mocsta's filter I noticed he spent quite a few posts defending Sharrant. I'd like to hear your opinion on those posts. " If scum shot Sharrant (which they probably did) then I find this a townslip. | ||
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On November 19 2013 04:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I want to see what HF does when he isn't the center of attention. If he goes afk I'm willing to reconsider my read on him. If he doesn't, there'll be new material to consider. Can we put him on the backburner for now? D: | ||
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I was totes referring to that as well. Imagine rayn was right on D1 and even I ignored him. I will have to perform sudoku. | ||
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On November 19 2013 21:44 Holyflare wrote: Happy? tldr sorry | ||
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On November 19 2013 22:20 Holyflare wrote: Not only has BH been afk for almost the entirety of day 1 but the only read he has is grack. He admits he has no time and has a new job and so cannot invest any good time into getting a read. His reads are therefore worthless. Why on earth did he even sign up? God only knows. I couldn't know he would give us nothing. | ||
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[QUOTE]On November 20 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote: I am voting for BH because he is scum.[/QUOTE do me a favor. go read my mason logs with BH and pretend you're me [/QUOTE] I feel like BH plays his own little game as scum: "how can I stay alive with the least effort?" Pro's: he doesn't give information away about his teammates. con's: he gets lynched. | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:17 thrawn2112 wrote: do me a favor. go read my mason logs with BH and pretend you're me I feel like BH plays his own little game as scum: "how can I stay alive with the least effort?" Pro's: he doesn't give information away about his teammates. con's: he gets lynched. TL+ Member | ||
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On November 20 2013 04:43 Grackaroni wrote: You too. How can you agree with BH's case on me? You've played with me enough to know better. Grack made case on Koshi. Grack played a lot with Koshi. #potkettleblack Pretty sure I have been calling you town the entire game. Or at least didn't say you were scum. | ||
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On November 20 2013 05:00 Grackaroni wrote: I want to know how anyone besides BH can agree with any of that. If BH is town, I believe he can scumhunt on a next level. That being said, I have not been in a game in which BH impressed me. So, I don't know where this confidence comes from. If you troll Mr. Grack, there will always be suspicion. So please. Don't be all high and mighty. | ||
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On November 20 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote: Holyflare, how would you have defended BH as scum? On day 2? or as town. | ||
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On November 20 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote: 15% of the thread is you. You are 15% of the thread. And you provoke these endless dialogues with other people. I think 40% of the game is now you talking to someone else. This is just madness. It doesn't help at all. If I were scum, I'd just talk to you for 10 pages from every now and then. It is that easy. The good thing is that rayn only does this as town. So we can just sheep him because he is most of the time pretty spot on. | ||
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On November 20 2013 06:30 supersoft wrote: we have to kill rayn. He won't shut up otherwise. He's delivering everyone the excuse to not read the game. And I can't blame anyone for it. Also, I prefer spam over inactivity anyday everyday. | ||
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thrawn can you stop being totally unreasonable? Why do you fucking believe BH? Because he gave you some pointers about how to read Grack & because he claimed assassin to you? Fuck that shit. BH is fucking BH. He has been trying to do these retarded things in his last 2 scumgames like claim survivor as scum, claim medic as scum both while doing the bare minimum for town. Between that he played once town and nailed scum Day 1. And in the other town games I remember from him he got nightkilled the first cycle he entered the game without typing anything that looked like scumhunting in the thread. Now in this game, does it look like scum bh or town bh? FUCKING HELL... | ||
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On November 20 2013 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: thrawn is really really town. He has good thoughts and solid thought process in mason QT. Yeah but not in the thread. | ||
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Kinda strange to me. | ||
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On November 20 2013 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote: who was the guy that was grilling me for saying that 1 non-town always gets one of the power spots? The trend continues btw VA, make sure that you put some warm milk outside so the Stray Kitten comes to visit you tomorrow. Like, he could be town. | ||
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Artanis lowest townread because I don't really know why he is town except for the Mocsta thing. And why didn't Mocsta get angry at Artanis? Should reread. Alakaslam his irrationallity around the BH lynch gives me instant flashbacks to Aperture... BC could be scum. I dislike how he knew that both VE & SS were good and town candidates but is a lot less certain about anything else except Grack. I wouldn't kill him tomorrow though. I like reading his posts. Pandain I got as town tbh but I put him with the doubties, there really isn't that much difference with Golden Sun for example. Maybe a bit more spammy. But I can sheep rayn on Pandain. Thrawn I put as scummy in thread, willing to do a lot of shit in QT. But still mehhhh. For endgame creds I put him as scum. Onegu is playing really well atm. If Holyflare flips scum I wonder if the guy is not playing too good... If Holyflare is town I am going to put Onegu there as well probably. Confident Onegu so crazy. Hopeless1der I don't care about. Mr. Cheesecake I don't care about. Coagulation I don't care about. Risen can die. | ||
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On November 20 2013 21:09 OOHCHILD wrote: @koshi what do you mean by you dont care about those people? also im not convinced austin and HF are town. also Artanis shot mocsta didn't he... Can you read their filter and tell me they are town 100%? I can't and pretty sure it wont happen till end of game. Hopeless and Risen both for their dumb stand on the BH lynch. Would be happy with Risen lynch because biggest filter and therefore most nonsense. | ||
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On November 21 2013 00:42 Alakaslam wrote: how the hell do you shit on being right, wtf!!! Everyone insisted he was SCUM, which I knew he couldn't be and that is that! Whatever read mine and SuperSoft filter we have agreed a lot this game, his reaction to BH lynch was mine also. In fact to almost everything. If my ability to tell where BH was genuine seems unnatural, I read his blogs to increase te ability to look genuine for Aperture's :ws : meta. Which both got wrecked and worked amazingly well. Time to ditch that unreasonable level of commitment but I do actually genuinely agree with/ relate to/ understand a lot of what he writes. His getting a new job, etc fits in with what he has been blogging about. BH could have played different from his last 2 scumgames. But he decided to play the exact same way. A bit trying + fakeclaiming. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + LoneMeow and Koshi mason Day 2/Night 2 Koshi: Hi Stray Kitten. Koshi: So, is this about me proving to you that I am town? Or you proving to me that you are town? Or both? Or is this just about scumhunting together? Or thrice? LM: This is about all three things, though right now *I* mostly care about figuring out your alignment. I'd like to hear about your thought process when you changed your mind about raynpelikoneet for starters. Koshi: Really don't understand why you don't post in the thread. So scummy. Koshi: Well. to be really honest. I thought rayn was scum for saying I was scum for starters. Also him not talking to me about my case on supersoft if he also had doubts on supersoft. Just strange. Then I just tunneled a bit on him and made cases so that others would also believe it and he would get lynched. Got to do something on D1 right. I am actually truly lost in bigger games on D1. Mostly in minis as well unless something scummy gets smacked in my face. But atm he might be town. Unless he is in a scumteam with Grack. Because they are pushing same agenda atm. Also might explain why he forgot Grack earlier in the game when he gave 5 names and then added Grack when somebody asked him about it. So unlikely rayn. But yeah, I kind a want to lynch BH atm. 120 hours should be enough for town BH to actually find scum. So we lynch BH and the next day lynch his scumreads if he actually is town. Sounds like a perfect plan. Koshi: Got to try and make VE use the double lynch as well. Koshi: If we lynch BH. LM: If we go for double lynch now and BH flips red, do you think we have 2 solid enough targets for the double lynch tomorrow? Who would you propose at this stage as the 2 next likely scum? Koshi: It is still a very long time till D3 lynch. And there are always people we want to lynch. Koshi: If BH is red I need to ask Alakaslam what he said about BH & VA scumteam for examples. Koshi: Also, you really need to post in the thread. Soon I will reveal this QT between us if you don't post in the thread. If you post in the thread I can keep it a secret. If you want that. You were heavy lurk in Hogwarts and I dislike people trying to win people over in a QT. Yamato being town and covering for you does make you look good. But I don't like it why you don't show that to the thread. Koshi: I totally crumbed that we were in a QT. for funzies. Where are you m8? LM: Having a terrible afternoon at work. As much as I hate defending myself with meta, I also hate it that you keep cherry picking my lurk in Hogwarts while ignoring that I played more or less exactly the same in LXI as town. Also, it's not like I especially want to keep my choice of mason target for today secret. What would it take from BH for you to want to lynch someone else? Koshi: Probably will lynch BH no matter what. Unless he really shows he figured out the game or is trying. Koshi: I know you also played extremely lurky in LXI. You need to post otherwise people will always think you are scum. It's how it is. LM: Do the other lurkers usually play lurky as either alignment? Those being Stutters, Mr. CheeseCake and Coagulation mainly, I suppose. Koshi: Stutters is always lurky. But this is a new level ofc... CC was town in Noir and was semi active (13pages). CC was scum in Aperture and was semi active (14 pages). Him doing absolutely nothing is new to me. Coag is somebody I don't know. I guess I have played games with him but I forgot. LM: Do you think this lurkiness in those players may be alignment indicative or not? LM: Also, would you agree that Alakaslam is probably town? He looks like the usual overly paranoid Slam to me rather than scum pushing agenda. Koshi: Depends if BH is scum tbh. I don't know why he is suddenly going crazy and attacking rayn Koshi: Btw, Vayne thinks you are scum and he is looking townie. You might want to mason him tomorrow. LM: I kind of noticed VA wanting to lunch me. I have kind of accepted my fate, but I might mason him anyway. In the land where meta rules, you're not allowed to try to improve  What's your opinion on Mig? I thought he was town, but his reads have been pretty non-existent and apparently he's supposed to be some kind of experienced player... LM: Reading through Mocsta's filter I noticed he spent quite a few posts defending Sharrant. I'd like to hear your opinion on those posts. LM: After re-reading Alakaslam's filter, I'm no longer at all sure he's town. That 180 on raynpelikoneet is just ridiculously quick... Koshi: Bot Mocsta and Sharrant already flipped m8. I don't know what you want me to say... You being a suspect for lynching has nothing to do with us not wanting you to improve. That's silly to suggest. You can also not blame us for using meta on you because you are a low volume poster. If you would break out with a 5-10 page filter this game we wouldn't be able to use meta. But just like in noir and Hogwards you have a 2-3 page filter. Best way to show thread that you are playing this game on D3 is to make a list with all players and give your honest opinion about them. Because to me it looks like you are pretending you are scumhunting but not really doing anything. You told me you wanted to know my alignement by Masoning me, did you figure it out? You asked 1 question? You asked me questions about the lurkers/afkers, did you figure it out? There is never a conclusion to your questions and we all love to know where you stand. LM: Oops, that's what I get for staring at a filter for too long I suppose. My point with the meta was that two games does not really establish any kind of statistically meaningful dataset to compare against. I'm pretty sure I'll get lynched for posting an "useless list post" but sure, I'll do that. Sadly it'll be full of "not sure, null" entries because I honestly don't have a good idea of the alignment of most players in this game. If BH flips red you're definitely town, if he flips something else I suppose I'd still think you likely town. Koshi: Yeah, if you don't have an idea about more than 10 people than you better just concentrate on your scumreads. Those 4 names you gave are not too shabby. Make cases around the 3 that will be alive tomorrow and I am sure you will stay alive if they are good. Koshi: Just Mason VA tommorrow and you will be all right. Unless you went cutiepie on the Sharrant mistake I think you are town. LM: Penny for your thoughts on HolyFlare? The mason log he posted makes him look better and austinmcc look worse to me, but that's the exact opposite of my previous reads so I need to think about this. Koshi: When reading that big ass post from Holyflare I only paid attention to Holyflare tbh. 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Or he is exactly on the money and I am being scum MVP. | ||
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On November 21 2013 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote: Koshi you already subconsciously pointed out what I am, I find it hilarious that it hasn't registered for you yet Well you kinda claimed something earlier that might be why you are interested in the game as town. But really I have 0 clues what you exactly are talking about. | ||
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##vote Grackeroni Vayne I think your bombs are on LM and BC? Even though I kinda like LM I think he needs to die over Pandain. Pandain after if LM is town. BC scum. Grack fakeclaiming dumb shit on purpose = Golden Sun where he claimed Vet when he knew I was Vet. | ||
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On November 21 2013 17:47 Holyflare wrote: wait what........? so your scum reads are most probably bc and grack but you're voting the guy who is TOWN to potentially kill off a scum????? Pretty sure I have at least 1 scum by lynching VA. Maybe 1 scum, maybe 2 town 1 scum, maybe 1 town 2 scum and very unlikely 3 town. I trust VA but then I again really really don't. | ||
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Lynch VA and you get those 2 for free. If 1 is wrong you can still reduce scum KP by 1 with the other vote. Also, VA is scum if he isn't mad hatter. Not lynching VA so silly. | ||
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On November 21 2013 19:13 Alakaslam wrote: Anyway, I am so far gone its not even funny. I am bad, I am aware I am bad, and I feel bad. But the pit is deep. See vote thread Not the worst 2 votes. | ||
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On November 17 2013 10:01 marvellosity wrote: Votecount: yamato77 (7): yamato77, Spaghetticus, Mattchew, Skanjab1s, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority VisceraEyes (9): Hopeless1der, Coagulation, Risen, StorrZerg, LoneMeow, Artanis[Xp], OOHCHILD, Koshi, austinmcc hiro protagonist (1): hiro protagonist Mocsta (1): Mocsta supersoft (9): BloodyC0bbler, Stutters695, Pandain, VisceraEyes, Sharrant, Holyflare, supersoft, Alakaslam, Grackaroni Bloodyc0bbler (2): Mr. Cheesecake, Mig Blazinghand (1): Blazinghand Onegu (1): Onegu We all know scum for some reason always spreads out. VE was extremely active on D1. I would find it pretty manly if scum were to be with 2 guys on VE. SS gained a surge in votes when Stutters, Pandain, VE, Sharrant and Holyflare voted him. The whole thing with Mocsta though... Is there scum on yamato? If VE/SS/Yamato are all town I would be on Yamato as scum. The guy was going to kill BH. BH was not scum. Why would there be 0 scummers on Yamato????? This is food for thought. | ||
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I have been feeling VA the entire game. But now I feel like a fool. I never believed the rayn Mad Hatter claim tbh. And therefore I must believe VA is the Mad Hatter. Therefore I must belive rayn and Oats are scum. If rayn is scum. Oats is scum. Grack is scum. I fucking said it in the start you people were scum. | ||
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1) He pushed everybody away from you D2. 2) He only mentioned you briefly in the thrawn/rayn mason but didn't do shit all around you otherwise. Also I am certain I thought you 2 were scum on day 1. I already forgot why. | ||
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On November 21 2013 22:13 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah because rayn thinks he can read me very well and he doesnt want to lynch a townie. In case you didnt notice, he does this in every game im under pressure and he has a townread on me. This is a lie. From the Mason with thrawn: raynpelikoneet Hmm.. I might be wrong on something. Oats actually DOES look kinda bad. He usually calls me scum/town and is eager to find out my alignment as town. That's pretty worrying that he has basically ignored me all game. I also don't understand the wording of that sentence. Nobody talked about you, Oats, before. Almost looks like rayn removed something out the logs. but w.e. Fact is that rayn does not have townread on you. He just ignores you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet Okay. Here's what i got. About your reads: - I am not sure what Koshi is. I need to see what he does now that he apparently doesn't want to call me scum any more. I really do read him only by tone, and there are some posts of his (like i said early on in the game) that points him towards being town. I really like to see where he is heading now, and more importantly how. - Grack i think is town for what i said in thread. - I dunno about BH. I really don't. I would hope he would start playing. Could you paraphrase your mason log with him? I think his case on Grack was quite good but i think it's now nullified. - I think austin is scum. His filter is a big pile of nothing. He should start pushing lynches now in case he is town. He played very solid game in Thug life but he is really vocal as scum too. The problem with him here is he is saying nothing and not giving out any reads at all. - I also think HF is scum. Seriously, he is twisting people's words around. He pops in to say something, then argues with me, then says "i don't care to talk to you rayn" and disappears. Why would he then not talk about anything else if he does not want to talk with me? Just fucking ignore me than and talk about something else. - Pandain is scum, most likely. He is just spewing out nonsense. He is really logical and makes good cases as town. As scum he is irrational and calls people town/scum for fucked up reasons. If BH is town Pandain is 100% scum. - VE could be scum, because of the Spaghetticus kill. I don't think that was a bluesnipe. His lynch was also awful and he hasn't said anything since. Whaddya think? - Sharrant was an obvious bluesnipe. I had him as 100% scum/blue. He is fucking easiest guy to pin as blue if you know he is town because he plays this "lurk as blue", always. - I have yet to read supersoft again, that's my next mission. Fucking stupid doctors did not protect yamato. ^ rayn is not sure about anything. rayn thinks that maybe might be. Fuck it. I am going with rayn scum. | ||
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On November 21 2013 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would there bescum on yamato? Like the reason you say one of me/oats/VA is scum is because "there has to be scum on yamato". wtf is that retarded reasoning? How many games are there that there are 9 votes on 1 guy and there is 0 scums? Now take into account that 1 guy is yelling to kill a not scum BH. Also, you are not even considering Oats scum atm? Just descredit me? Fuck. I need to die or you need to die today. | ||
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... I do not believe there was 0 scums on Yamato. There has to be 1 at least. | ||
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Knowing that bombs are 1 kp and there probably is a scum doc, are we allowed to lynch you today and don't you think that is a good idea? Also is Oats scum? Regards, Your biggest fan Koshi | ||
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Can we talk about lynching both LM and BC through Vayne and then search for a fresh lynch? As you can see I am currently lynching these 4 people VA/LM/BC/SS? Good plan? | ||
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On November 21 2013 23:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: would people stop fucking fakeclaiming bullshit already? Oh my fucking God I'm sick of that shit. Also, I'm the doctor. Jesus! Are you a scum doctor? | ||
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On November 21 2013 23:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Kill Vayne with fire because bombs good unit. Oats I want to believe is town, I really do. I'd prefer Supersoft in this instance. Same. Should not have entered the thread like he did. Also. rayn is town <3. | ||
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On November 22 2013 00:35 Hopeless1der wrote: This is my point about how the game is in a shit state. SS of all people is clinging for dear life to the fact that Oats must be scum because he knows he blocked scum kp with his roleblock. What the fuck is that shit? SS can die too. p.s. Oats I'm sorry. Comment on this Hopeless1der. I don't know why you are complaining about people not commenting on your Pandain case when you haven't commented on any of the cases here. supersoft has been pushing Oats for a week now for reasons outside the RB, you are not aware it seems. On November 19 2013 07:18 supersoft wrote: I _still_ have an issue with Oatsmaster: + Show Spoiler + First piece of evidence: On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote: BloodyC0bbler VisceraEyes Mig Coagulation supersoft BlazingHand I see yamato. I see. Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion! Second piece of evidence: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=all one million questions, no follow-ups. Only oneliners, no opinions on anything. Questions are mostly pointless. If he has no serious notes, he's scum Third piece of evidence: This line of posts seem extremely fake: On November 15 2013 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote: nah yeah I think VE is town. On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote: What super? How do you tell the difference between town and assassin? Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually. On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote: what the fuck VE. What the fuck. I dont think VE cares about lynching scum now. On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote: WHICH MEANS HES THE ASSASISN Also at least 1 mason is scum, we should lynch into the mason pool and all the masons should claim tmr morning with their reads on mason buddies. WHAT? why does that mean he's assassin? Why doesn't that mean he's scum? Ah i know why. Because Oats slipped terribly. VE isn't scum and he knows that! Fourth piece of evidence http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432880&user=Oatsmaster¤tpage=2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster¤tpage=2 yeah. I think so, too http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504&user=Oatsmaster huge difference: Posts with actual content in between the massive amount of oneliners. See for yourself guys. and this is a lie. Fifth piece of evidence: His defense: ad hominem more ad hominem. And most important: He doesnt try to explain each point individually. He just takes the weakest point of what I said about him - the oneliners - and says he does that every game. No explanation why he voted Yamato, No explanation why he thought VE was assassin and not scum. And finally, even his defense was a lie, since he doesnt play like this every game. OATSMASTER is scum! ##vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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11 townies dead in 2 cycles. 1 scum. Prepare to die indeed. | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:16 Holyflare wrote: because I can vote both LM and BC AND keep the town member in..............? But you aren't fucking sure both are scum? You actually get to pick out your top 3 scums and lynch them on the same day and only have to sacrifice 1 townie. (who isn't even confirmed town, because we had 2 MH claims back then) It's a fucking brilliant plan because if you hit 2 scums out of those 3 you remove another 1 KP from scum. Which makes up for the fact that you just lynched a townie. And then I am not even talking about all the fucking information you get. Plan was perfect. | ||
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But now rayn calls him 100% scum now. Backed up by VA sadly enough. | ||
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Any chance we can get some lists? Like a full list like VA gave Towny town: Likely town: likely scum: certain scum: | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:30 Grackaroni wrote: I'll write out a list if you would like. You don't think Coag is scum Koshi? Towny town: leaning town: VA, austin, Holyflare, supersoft, Mig, Grack, leaning scum: Thrawn, Oats, rayn, Onegu, LoneMeow, Alakaslam, Risen, Coagulation, Hopeless1der, Pandain, Mr. Cheesecake Scummy scum: BloodyC0bbler That's were I am with what I have. People will move up down after todays lynch. | ||
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Yeah. So what? I have switched around today so much, I don't want to annoy the hosts anymore. | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:40 Grackaroni wrote: our lists are actually pretty close lol. Way different than hogwarts. yeah, pretty close. Did you see my post about Mayor election D1? What do you think about no scum on Yamato? I have never been in a game in which scum were not spreading votes like mofos. Every time, every game they split their votes. You think not a single one was on Yamato while Yamato yelled he would lynch BH (not scum) or Onegu/austin? | ||
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On November 17 2013 10:01 marvellosity wrote: Votecount: yamato77 (7): yamato77, Spaghetticus, Mattchew, Skanjab1s, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority VisceraEyes (9): Hopeless1der, Coagulation, Risen, StorrZerg, LoneMeow, Artanis[Xp], OOHCHILD, Koshi, austinmcc hiro protagonist (1): hiro protagonist Mocsta (1): Mocsta supersoft (9): BloodyC0bbler, Stutters695, Pandain, VisceraEyes, Sharrant, Holyflare, supersoft, Alakaslam, Grackaroni Bloodyc0bbler (2): Mr. Cheesecake, Mig Blazinghand (1): Blazinghand Onegu (1): Onegu | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi you have 12 scumreads? Could you give your list towny town: leaning town: leaning scum: scummy scum: | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could you give your list towny town: Grackaroni, Vayne, Mig, Holyflare leaning town: Hopeless, Oats, Onegu, Coag, austin, Mr.CC, Slamdunk leaning scum: Pandain, supersoft, Risen scummy scum: Cobbler, LM No idea: Koshi, thrawn I know one of my "leaning scum on" list dudes is probably worng because it does not make sense otherwise. It would be cool if those 7 names are the only ones that could be scum. I can't possible lean town on people like Onegu/CC/Oats/Alakaslam. And funny enough that's like our only difference. But you give me crap for my 11 names... I truly hope that nobody from Onegu/CC/Oats/Alakaslam flips red, otherwise you are being a giant bitch. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:23 VayneAuthority wrote: if we are policy lynching anyone, he gets my vote Mine would go to Onegu. Made 4 posts in last 72 hours. Decided to play other game. Only thing he did here was run for Mayor and say rayn = town and Holyflare = scum. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:30 Coagulation wrote: why is anyone listening to grack ever for that matter? Believe it or not but the guy that fakeclaimed mason to make some1 look bad is probably town. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:33 Coagulation wrote: well he tried to spin a townie as scum with his random lie. Im not a huge fan of policy lynches but that shit is like a mile over the line right? I just told you guys about Onegu. The guy made 4 post in this game over the last 72 hours. In his last 25 post on this side there are 24 post in another mafia game. ^ This guy ran for Mayor. Yes. He did. | ||
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On November 22 2013 05:15 Alakaslam wrote: Fact check: My scum team didn't in aperture- we specifically hammered mean I still wasn't lynched XD As scum that game was glorious, like this one It's my restitution for using false insanity meta to do things nobody would have gotten away with in that one I checked it for you: On September 04 2013 09:00 GreYMisT wrote: Day 2 Lynch MrZentor (0): HiroPro (1): cakepie (0): ShiaoPi (0): Alakaslam (8): Koshi, Clarity_nl, Mr. Cheesecake, VayneAuthority, Risen, Hassybaby, austinmcc, Cephiro geript (8): raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, cakepie, WaveofShadow, randombum, Stutters695, Oatsmaster, kitaman27 (0): Oatsmaster (0): Felkyr (1): Onegu Hassybaby (8): kitaman27, strongandbig, Coagulation, AxleGreaser, ShiaoPi, Felkyr, debears, geript, HiroPro ObviousOne (0): Risen (0): The lynch will happen in on Wednesday, Sep 04 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). It is a double lynch and the top two vote getters will be lynched. You can only vote for one person, though. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required. At the moment, geript and Hassybaby are set to be lynched! ObviousOne alone on HiroPro Clarity, CC, austinmcc on Alakaslam Randombum, Alakaslam on geript Coag, Felkyr on Hassybaby But if you take the 3 main wagons you had 3/2/2 scums. So Alakaslam? Why are you talking straight out of your ass? | ||
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On November 22 2013 05:31 Alakaslam wrote: My cranium is located there right now ##deal with it I claimed scum already so lynch me Fact check: You are a dumbass. | ||
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The think VA bolded wasn't a scumclaim. But somewhat later Alakaslam said he scumclaimed. Dnu what he was referring to. He just said that he wasn't NK yet because scum can ignore him of he is right. ... | ||
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Tomorrow I will do some real legwork. Today I had some insanity fun. Sadly nobody was around to play with. Hopefully tomorrow there is. | ||
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I cannot get the guy lynched because you people never want to see it. 1) rayn literally went 180 on all his reads. LM was confirmed town to him at the start, now he is up for lynch. BC was NEVER a strong read for rayn, he said something about BC and the pushing Grack strategy on D2 but that's all. If you read rayn filter his real big red read is supersoft, but that guy he is just leaning scum towards now... Holyflare was scum on D1, Austin was scum dor D1-2 but now both are town. He is flailing around reading me it simply isn't pretty anymore. --> This isn't town rayn guys, the spam is there, but the gameplay isn't. I know that changing reads is perfectly normal, but that's not exactly what I am talking about. 2) rayn is not rayn to me. ---> I have been always right about rayn, fucking sheep me. He wasn't lynched in Noir but I was yelling he was scum since D1. Just the same like in this game. People just put him on town... I had him as scum when I replaced in WC2 but was threatened to be lynched if I kept bringing it up, everybody had him as town.... Marv and I got him in ##. I had a pretty strong read on him after D2 but for some reason I was more hesitant than I should have been. All other games he was town and I had him as town. 3) lynch rayn because you want to. --> I know some of you want it. Just do it. I promise it is a good lynch. ____________________ I am town, I also haven't went back on forth on my reads much this game. It may seem like that after yesterday but except for on rayn (which was more a fake change and some wishful thinking change but ok...). I just hope that knowing I am town and that I am normally right on rayn you consider lynching him. | ||
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We are lacking some crucial flips but: D1) rayn pushed lynch into: Holyflare, Sharrant, Koshi, supersoft, Pandain and Grack. D2) rayn pushed lynch into BH/Austin/SS. (yes I did as well) D3) rayn pushed lynch into BC/LM ... Yes he does that as scum. | ||
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On November 22 2013 23:06 Holyflare wrote: Urgh, koshi, rayn has so much filter that contradictions also make sense in that sense but I'll look into him :/ LM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up? I have played 9 games with rayn. 9 times I was correct. In this game I am confident to say that he is scum. Again. Catching rayn is not easy and for some reason you people are horrible at it. Noir -> Nobody on rayn except me. Witchcraft 2 -> Nobody on rayn except me when I replaced. GoT -> Nobody on rayn (I was in his scumteam back then) rayn got catched in ## mafia. (marv was suspicious D1 but we only lynched on D3) rayn got catched in WorldCup mafia (BH got him D1) Most of the time if you don't catch rayn D1 he trashes over town. I think ## mafia lynching rayn on D3 was an unicum. I will not change my view on rayn this game anymore. | ||
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[T] Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV Victory [S] Nuclear Winter Mafia Victory [T] I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia 2 Victory [T] Titanic Mini Mafia! Loss [SK] Sicilian Mafia Style Victory [S] GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars Victory [T] Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Victory [T] Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Loss [T] TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir Loss [T] Golden Sun Mini Mafia 2 Loss [T] Thug Life Mini Mafia Victory [T] Hogwarts Mafia Victory [T] "##" Mafia Victory [T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia II Loss I feel like I played very well in my last 5 games. I should spam a little less and nail scum a little more but overall it's pretty good. | ||
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Didn't want to post that. Wanted to preview. Was for my profile. | ||
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On November 23 2013 00:24 Onegu wrote: No I am VT and no masons have masoned me I R sad panda. Are you convinceable rayn is scum? | ||
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On November 23 2013 00:27 Onegu wrote: I will re read him. But I still got heavy town read on him. Why, I am the other way around. Could you give me a list please: towny town: leaning town: leaning scum: scummy scum: | ||
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But please wait till you read everything. | ||
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On November 20 2013 09:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holy shit. I definitely know what outs austin as scum now.  I don't wanna tell it though haha. I can tell you he is 100% scum. Lynch him the next day. Or vig him during night. That dude is scum! ^^ On November 20 2013 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: austin so scum. Nothing on austin but there is: On November 20 2013 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well first of all, fuck the plan. It would have been so good but it's not allowed. I was planning on using the double lynch to lynch supersoft/supersoft so we could have passed the pardoner protection from the lynch but that's not possible to vote for the same person for both of the lynches. Anyways, here i presesent to you supersoft the mafia pardoner: This is supersoft's to lynch -list near end of D1: Grackaroni, Coagulation, Hopeless, Storrzerg, Hiro/thrawn, Risen, kushmasta, Pandain, and Mig (he corrected in the next post Mig is not a townread but strong scumread). Next thing he does is he starts asking people to give +/- on those people. Some people answer, mainly Grackaroni. After some time supersoft says Pandain looks a bit better and he does want to give Mig another day, does not comment on any other of his candidates. So if we take out Pandain, the list looks like this: Grackaroni, Coagulation, Hopeless, Storrzerg, Hiro/thrawn, Risen and kushmasta. Then this piece of conversation happens: Does this sound legit to you? Grackaroni, one of supersoft's lynch targets tells him Mocsta is the best lynch according to Artanis' case. supersoft does not read Artanis' case, he has admitted that later on. He just says "okay i read my top scumreads target's filter, the target is btw someone who wasn't on my lynch list earlier, and i will not even look at the ready case there is, but don't worry, i read the filter, np ezpz there still 13 minutes to the lynch". Notice that here is also when austin suddenly makes a voteswitch onto VE like Vayne pointed out. Then here is what happens next: 8 minutes before the lynch, has another target still, wants to look into Mocsta and Mattchew (who was not on the initial list aswell). Does he even read these filters because he has time to find new target compared to Mocsta all the time. I don't believe he is even reading Mocsta's filter because he just keeps on posting new targets instead of reading. Here he says he'd kill Mocsta. But notice the underlined. This is already backpedalling! Then the time is up and VE is the mayor. Pandain says he has a townread on Mocsta. Another move that seems like backpedalling. Notice that Pandain is also a person that supersoft at least does not think is town because a while ago he was his scumread, yet he says "hey gimme some townie points on Mocsta". This comment screams insecureness and fear. "Do i really need to decide the lynch if VE does not come back.. fuuuccckkkk". Also notice that supersoft is supposed to be rereading Mocsta's filter, yet he has time to post every other minute. Mocsta is his top scumread (apparently), yet he is not telling VE to lynch Mocsta in case he comes back. "OKAY I GUESS THAT'S A SOLID LYNCHCANDIDATE"?!?!!?!??! More like "phew.. i got out of this shitty situation". Fuck, Skanjabs is NOT even a scumread for supersoft. supersoft had 8 scumreads, Mocsta "#1", VE lynches outside his pool and it's a "solid lynchcandidate". WTF, ARE YOU OKAY WITH LYNCHING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME? This is fucking bullshit. And what does he tell VE later on: BUT HE WAS AN OKAY LYNCH WHEN VE KILLED HIM??? Of course he was a good lynch because supersoft didn't need to squirm out of Mocsta lynch!!! Now when Mocsta is under no pressure he was obviously a bad lynch and Mocsta was so much better! rofl. Then suddenly, OUT OF NOWHERE, this: Suddenly there is a big scumread on someone completely different from his lynch list. No filtering for his scumreds from D1, no Mocsta, apparently supersoft dropped all his scumreads from D1, even Mocsta who was totally scum, to find BAD OATSMASTER! resoning for Oatsmaster scumread is this: 1) Oats asks a lot of questions and posts many onliners and has no thoughts - that's what Oats always does, and he has had thoughts. 2) Oats has an assassin read on VE - guess fucking what VE was? So yeah, as a TLDR;
What has supersoft done after this and after N1:
So yeah, the only thing people can even remotely think supersoft is town is because he said "i guess i will lynch Mocsta". If someone is considered town because of one comment like that (which i have pointed out is fucking fishy in the first place) i might aswell give up this game. Everything else supersoft has done this game has been HELLA SCUMMY! Notice also that we are talking about a guy who is supposed to be a town leader. He's fucking vet who is considered really good at this game, yet he is plaing like absolute shit, and not only shit, but SCUMMY! Lynch supersoft the mafia pardoner on D3, let's burn his pardon down and lynch him again on D4. Also lynch austin as a second lynch on D3. Thank you for listening. rayn goes from austin austin austin austin austin austin austin 100% certain austin 100% certain DOUBLE LYNCH SUPERSOFT/SUPERSOFT | ||
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How many are about austin and his 100% scumtell rayn found? Why doesn't rayn want to share a 100% scumtell with the thread? Why is rayn pushing LM for a "scumslip" Why is rayn pushing Alakaslam for a "scumslip" Come on peepz... | ||
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We all go from scum to town to scum to town. When we go from town to scum rayn trows it in the thread like he found the Holy Grail. When we go from scum to town it's for some silly reason or thread sentiment. rayn scum please see it. This isn't town rayn. | ||
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If rayn was actually playing the game he would have found so many scummers the "scumslip" had to be fake. Or he wouldn't dramatize it like that. It was just another great target to lynch. PS: rayn has 30+ pages of filter and how many posts where about solid reasons why somebody is town? | ||
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This game he is "town" leader but he jumps from left to right to left to right. But there is no other leader that makes him jump like that. He isn't town rayn and he just can't fake his towngame on false targets. | ||
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I find it extremely suspicious that LM asked about the Sharrant kill after the flips. As scum that is obviously the 1 million dollar question. But would you as scum then pretend to have forgotten about the damn Sharrant kill a bit later? Or was this a master plan from LM to pretend he forgot about it and gain town cred? Mehhhhhh | ||
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You lynch a townie so you can kill your top 3 scumreads in which you hope to find 2 scums. If you lynch 2 scums you reduce mafia KP with 1. Which is exactly what your mad hatter is worth. It's a null trade on townie lives, but you get a SHITTON information. But that's for endgame. | ||
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On November 23 2013 02:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Koshi, Would you like me to sheep you? I'm already voting Rayn from when I thought he was mad hatter. yes please. go vote rayn. | ||
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On November 23 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [b]##Unvote: Alakaslam ##Vote: Lonemeow I somehow thought austin's claim makes him town. I guess it doesn't. He is a good lynch too. I don't care to talk to Koshi because his read changes on me every 5 minutes. Nha they don't. Cuz you are my buddy bud I wanted BH to be scum so I could play a town game together. Apart from D2, all the other times I changed my view on you was mostly fake. | ||
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On November 23 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then lynch me for it. I am sick of these people who are proud because "i am so good at reading rayn" while they are not. I am not fucking "proud" of it, but how many times was I fucking spot on? I am using it atm because I actually am always correct. It would be pretty sad if I wasn't this time BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE GAME. but I am correct. And you are scum. PS: I can't find why Austin is scum. I found some stuff about at least 1 scum in QT because it is too friendly. | ||
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On November 23 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: Koshi calling me out for not posting here much is BS also, it was N2 here and I am VT while it was D1 there I wonder where someone is going to post more? Hrmmm.... And then I had irl stuff and didnt post in either game. I am going to vote koshi as one of my votes I think. This will also be for endgame. It will be fun. | ||
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On November 23 2013 02:49 Onegu wrote: Whatever koshi you were trying to discredit me for bs reasons... And if you want me to check the other people who are in bothgames and check post counts for those times and see what game they posted more in Ill be happy to do it, Ill give you a hint im fairly certain they posted in the game that was d1 and not n2. No I am not. I said I would policy lynch you on the fact that you posted 4 times in what was it, 80 hours? And read those 4 posts. And now it is probably 90 hours since you posted anything decent because the last couple hours you have been catching up. How do you have the balls to pick a fight with me here? Also this: On November 23 2013 00:52 Onegu wrote: Im not caught up yet, but Townie town: Rayn Leaning Town:LM Leaning scum: Holyflare Scummy scummerson: Austin But these are really outdated. And I have to finish catching up. Is an insane pile of garbage. You cant shut up about Holyflare. You fucking entire filter is Holyflare Holyflare Holyflare Holyflare Holyflare Holyflare And now suddenly austin is your top scumread? And I will get a vote????? Seriously Onegu? | ||
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On November 23 2013 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care what someone has done in mason logsif it does not translate into the thread. says the guy who had thrawn town 100% because of Mason. | ||
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On November 23 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe i vote for myself, that's becoming really tempting because atm this game is pretty dumb. please do. | ||
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On November 23 2013 03:14 Hopeless1der wrote: HEY! HEY! WHY THE FUCK AM I THE ONLY ONE ON PANDAIN?! WHY THE FUCK AM I HERE? IS THIS AN EXTENSION OF HIS SHITTY MASON CHAT? I got bigger fish to fry atm. | ||
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On November 23 2013 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hmm i can vote for Pandain too-. He is another one who can't read or is just talking shit. Babyseals on 10k please. | ||
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On November 23 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote: koshi could be scum, he has no qualms about being a dick as anti-town. just read noire. im not sure about him anymore, he just made a lot of blatant lies to try and incriminate rayn, but I don't know about anyone this game because everyone going full retard I was town in Noir. | ||
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On November 23 2013 03:56 VayneAuthority wrote: you know what i was talking about, the game with PMs. funny you mention noire tho when you say you are the only one after rayn and I had rayn in my scum list from day 1 rofl.. It was N1. You had me as scum on D1. | ||
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On November 23 2013 03:57 supersoft wrote: pff i am out of here for a few hours. This doesn't lead to anything. I cannot argue with you guys about this stuff. It's just stupid. Why would you lynch me before Oats? One MP is missing - if oats is scum, i am like confirmed town. If you lynch me now and I flip what I am, you have to lynch Oats anyway and you won't have the opportunity to get your Bulletprovevest-Mason-RBer back. Just saying. + I am easily top3 scumhunter in this game. But okay. Do what you have to do you paranoid idiots. lynch rayn with me. | ||
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On November 23 2013 04:00 supersoft wrote: why would i want to lynch an idiot if i can lynch scum. He is scum. and not an idiot. | ||
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On November 23 2013 04:02 VayneAuthority wrote: yea man so much koshi in here That was N1. D1 you were telling a story how there was an unknown man named Koshi spitting in your face. I remember. Was funny. | ||
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On November 23 2013 04:24 Onegu wrote: And koshi I dont like you saying its for postgame, if you feel that is a legit reason to call me out you can talk about it now. Otherwise youre doing it for that reason is really scummy. It is simply a difference in opinion probably. Like we don't have to fight about it now. I find it bad sportmanship that you join 2 games and can't keep up with both. Just like thrawn btw. | ||
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On November 23 2013 04:29 Onegu wrote: No I was caught up with this thread, I had read everything I just didnt add much, and didnt feel like I needed to. Regardless of if I am in 2 games or not irl stuff would have came up and I would be absent from this game for the same period, I didnt post over there either. Look, you made between + Show Spoiler + On November 23 2013 04:29 Onegu wrote: No I was caught up with this thread, I had read everything I just didnt add much, and didnt feel like I needed to. Regardless of if I am in 2 games or not irl stuff would have came up and I would be absent from this game for the same period, I didnt post over there either. these 2 post 4 other post. That means over 96 hours you made 4 posts. That's not enough for somebody who ran for Mayor. I said I wanted to policy lynch you just for that. Isn't that unreasonable. | ||
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It comes down that you made 4 post in 96 hours. | ||
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Yes there were 12 people in it. | ||
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On November 23 2013 05:34 Risen wrote: You're probably right. I'm not going to argue that you're wrong, but I don't think any of them are more scummy than my top 3. Rayn should obviously be lynched come lylo (read as: if you're town rayn you better pray you guys catch all the scum before then. Side effect of having so many fucking posts) Now take into account that Yamato was going to kill BH. Or Onegu/Austin. Scum loves to kill BH and blame it then on Yamato. (Aperture and geript) Onegu you have a townread on. Austin is just town dude. Explain to me how there are not 2 scum on Yamato..; | ||
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On November 23 2013 05:37 supersoft wrote: i have basically a check on oats i am not moving my vote anywhere. And considering me as a option should be punished by lynch. Could you please vote rayn with me. I give my other vote to you, atm it is on C0bbler. | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:11 Onegu wrote: I know HF likes to bus, and the other wagons I have town reads on so youre it. Looks like im the only one on HF but not going to vote for a null read at this point. Is this true? | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:21 Onegu wrote: 4:18 am Goodnight.... Im not goinf to lynch LM rayn, I still cant believe a scum LM would mason a town yamato. He would ask his scum qt what he should do and they wouldnt let him do that, and yes he would ask, I have been on the same scum team with him twice and he always asks. Pandain maybe I could but I dont have the energy to look right now. Dude... Holyflare is scum. | ||
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rayn is scum and I know it. Holyflare bussing like a boss. rayn always talks with another scummer on D1 and I thought it was BC, but that didn't add up. Now I see that that person is Holyflare Hopeless is scum to make my list look pretty. Also he is big fucking whiner and I hope he is scum. Hasn't done shit now Pandain is town. Bloodyc0bbler is scum due to thread sentiment and rayn his stance on him. Oatsmaster is scum but my least like read. Could be somebody else tbh. + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 10:01 marvellosity wrote: Votecount: yamato77 (7): yamato77, VisceraEyes (9): OOHCHILD (0): hiro protagonist (1): hiro protagonist Mocsta (1): supersoft (9): raynpelikoneet (0): Bloodyc0bbler (2): Mr. Cheesecake, Blazinghand (1): Blazinghand, Koshi (0): Onegu (1): Onegu Alakaslam (0): austinmcc (0): Not voting (0): Election is in . Voting is mandatory. Currently VisceraEyes will be elected Mayor and supersoft will be elected Pardoner! If you see that a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. On November 20 2013 09:44 marvellosity wrote: Day 2 Final Vote Count: Oatsmaster (0): Holyflare (0): Blazinghand (17): Hopeless1der (0): Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet (0): Pandain (3): Risen, Bloodyc0bbler (4): Holyflare, Mattchew (0): Not voting: (1) Stutters695 Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory. Currently Blazinghand is set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. On November 23 2013 06:01 marvellosity wrote: Vote Count: Pandain (4): Grackaroni (2): Bloodyc0bbler (7): LoneMeow (2): VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, supersoft (1): Mig (2): Bloodyc0bbler, Oatsmaster Coagulation (1): Grackaroni, VayneAuthority (0): raynpelikoneet (2): Oatsmaster (1): Risen (5): Alakaslam (1): VayneAuthority, Onegu (1): Oatsmaster Koshi (0): Holyflare (1): Onegu Not voting (8 votes):: austinmcc (1), thrawn2112 (2), LoneMeow (2), Alakaslam (2), Risen (1) Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory. Currently Bloodyc0bbler and Risen are set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:53 Alakaslam wrote: Dude. I am your Raynepelikoneet is scum hipster Read my filter, SS and I came to that conclusion long before you. But he keeps Svengali me Please vote for him Mr. Alakaslam. Do you see how those scummers are spread out? It's the correct answer. | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:58 Pandain wrote: I haven't really read the thread nor want to honestly it's such a shit fest. I just know apparently holy is town because he's a two shot vig which is useful to know. I thought Vayne was scum too but everyone thought he was town so I gave him up. I wouldn't want to vote him today anyway Holyflare is not a 2 shot vig. We have: Artanis flipped town 2 shot vig Moscta flipped scum 2 shot vig Mig claims town 2 shot vig and shot Mattchew and Sharrant. | ||
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rayn knew that Sharrant was blue and shot him. Who takes bets? | ||
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On November 23 2013 07:03 thrawn2112 wrote: hey whats going on? what's happened in the last ~ 50 pages? and can someone kindly tell me who all has been calling me mafia recently? Nobody except some guy. I know rayn is scum. Can you sheep me this game? | ||
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On November 23 2013 07:08 thrawn2112 wrote: have you read our qt logs in their entirety? i'm deferring to my instincts here, especially after my BH mason experience. but please explain your reasoning, I am intrigued It's in the thread. D: Basically it is because he is on too many people that could be scum. It's simply doesn't compute. If rayn knows somebody is scum he knows why, but this game he has so many 100% scumreads but he keeps finding new ones. Even after the 6 names he gave on Day 1 (Holyflare, Koshi, Sharrant, supersoft, Pandain, Grack) he just keeps finding 100% scums. D2 there was BH, Austin and BC. Day 3 we have had SS, LM, Alakaslam. All these reads I have as town. Except for Holyflare D1 ( but did he really push Holyflare to get lynched? He says he told Yamato but not he didn't.) and then BC (who rayn NEVER gave 1 reason for why he is scum except "pushing grack as mislynch) and on D3 when he should have been pushing BC he made that super big case on SS. ____ Another big reason is that he as "town" leader, keeps jumping from target to target, which makes town extremely nervous because as you can see nobody sees rayn as scum and town eats out of his hand. D1 I said that rayn was scum and that he was pretending to have reads so he could be more active if needed, but that his reads were fake reads. I told the thread and it was the first case I made on rayn 24 hours in the game. Look what happened D2/D3. Only SS read stayed... But anyway, as town leader he is jumping from target to target always finding the next Holy Grail to why somebody is scum, he tells the thread with big posts why these people are scum. But eventually he moves off these people and never gives big reasons why. rayn has not confirmed 1 townie using logic this game. He bluntly says some people are town, but never uses any form of logic to help the thread understand why somebody is town. Never. __ There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me? | ||
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I am pretty sure rayn/holyflare/BC is the core of the scumteam. | ||
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On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote: Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now? Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn Can you just sheep me and love me afterwards? | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote: EBWOP: I'm conflicted here because I am not fully satisfied with the Pandain/ss resolution. HF is scum but there aren't many people on him. Oats is scum but there aren't that many people on him. Thrawn train could get rolling but I'm liking his posting here, but then he's just saying logical things without actually putting in effort and so is probably scum. I can't even remember BC posting anymore, so he's probably scum just keeping quiet so he doesn't incriminate anyone on his team. How many scum players are there? I'm quickly wracking up too many names. LM is close to the lead and I can't remember why... which is bad since he's the mason who lurked. Rayn is a lylo lynch for sure but I mean he's got so much filter and he's made cases, that's good enough for me not to vote him right now. It's going to get harder and harder to fake cases as the game goes on and he'll slip up while drunk or something. On November 22 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could you give your list towny town: Grackaroni, Vayne, Mig, Holyflare leaning town: Hopeless, Oats, Onegu, Coag, austin, Mr.CC, Slamdunk leaning scum: Pandain, supersoft, Risen scummy scum: Cobbler, LM No idea: Koshi, thrawn I know one of my "leaning scum on" list dudes is probably worng because it does not make sense otherwise. This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter. Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2. Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:38 Risen wrote: Your case is awesome. I don't want to lynch rayn right now. I don't think we have the people to lynch rayn. I'm not as sure on rayn as I am about other people. BC needs to get lynched, we need to find out who the second lynch is going to be asap so we can start digging. Is it me? Bummer, but there's information to be gleaned from this. Look at Grack, he looks terrible in all this. Look at HF, even worse. Look at SS, my god holy shitballs awful. rayn is the most likely out of those 4 you name. HF is scum with him don't fucking worry. | ||
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You got me as town right? Could you sheep me and lynch rayn? I am really confident he is scum. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:51 Risen wrote: I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn? Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future? Dude.................... If there is 1 lynch I am certain about it is the rayn lynch. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you guys lynch me make it 100% sure to lynch Koshi after that because i hate him because he is so bad. I don't really care about this game any more because everyone is so bad. supersoft, Pandain and LM are so fucking scum yet you idiots vote for people because they play the game. Koshi shame on you, i hope you never try to tell people you can read me any more. Neber. Onegu is far better in that than yuou are. Now you can go die. I wont if you are town. But I have been right till now so I can perfectly say at this point I can read you. | ||
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Why are you so fucking mad? I am just trying to play the damn game. You look fucking insanely scummy to me. | ||
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On November 23 2013 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I AM PICKING FIGHTS WITH YOU??!?!? AHAHAHAHAHAH! I am voting for scum, unlike you. LM and Pandain? No. | ||
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On November 23 2013 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: bye. Don't forget to vote yourself on the way out. | ||
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On November 24 2013 00:34 Mig wrote: Do we have any mason logs featuring LM somewhere? Yeah I posted some. | ||
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On November 21 2013 00:46 Koshi wrote: Not much. But our QT. LM & Koshi + Show Spoiler + LoneMeow and Koshi mason Day 2/Night 2 Koshi: Hi Stray Kitten. Koshi: So, is this about me proving to you that I am town? Or you proving to me that you are town? Or both? Or is this just about scumhunting together? Or thrice? LM: This is about all three things, though right now *I* mostly care about figuring out your alignment. I'd like to hear about your thought process when you changed your mind about raynpelikoneet for starters. Koshi: Really don't understand why you don't post in the thread. So scummy. Koshi: Well. to be really honest. I thought rayn was scum for saying I was scum for starters. Also him not talking to me about my case on supersoft if he also had doubts on supersoft. Just strange. Then I just tunneled a bit on him and made cases so that others would also believe it and he would get lynched. Got to do something on D1 right. I am actually truly lost in bigger games on D1. Mostly in minis as well unless something scummy gets smacked in my face. But atm he might be town. Unless he is in a scumteam with Grack. Because they are pushing same agenda atm. Also might explain why he forgot Grack earlier in the game when he gave 5 names and then added Grack when somebody asked him about it. So unlikely rayn. But yeah, I kind a want to lynch BH atm. 120 hours should be enough for town BH to actually find scum. So we lynch BH and the next day lynch his scumreads if he actually is town. Sounds like a perfect plan. Koshi: Got to try and make VE use the double lynch as well. Koshi: If we lynch BH. LM: If we go for double lynch now and BH flips red, do you think we have 2 solid enough targets for the double lynch tomorrow? Who would you propose at this stage as the 2 next likely scum? Koshi: It is still a very long time till D3 lynch. And there are always people we want to lynch. Koshi: If BH is red I need to ask Alakaslam what he said about BH & VA scumteam for examples. Koshi: Also, you really need to post in the thread. Soon I will reveal this QT between us if you don't post in the thread. If you post in the thread I can keep it a secret. If you want that. You were heavy lurk in Hogwarts and I dislike people trying to win people over in a QT. Yamato being town and covering for you does make you look good. But I don't like it why you don't show that to the thread. Koshi: I totally crumbed that we were in a QT. for funzies. Where are you m8? LM: Having a terrible afternoon at work. As much as I hate defending myself with meta, I also hate it that you keep cherry picking my lurk in Hogwarts while ignoring that I played more or less exactly the same in LXI as town. Also, it's not like I especially want to keep my choice of mason target for today secret. What would it take from BH for you to want to lynch someone else? Koshi: Probably will lynch BH no matter what. Unless he really shows he figured out the game or is trying. Koshi: I know you also played extremely lurky in LXI. You need to post otherwise people will always think you are scum. It's how it is. LM: Do the other lurkers usually play lurky as either alignment? Those being Stutters, Mr. CheeseCake and Coagulation mainly, I suppose. Koshi: Stutters is always lurky. But this is a new level ofc... CC was town in Noir and was semi active (13pages). CC was scum in Aperture and was semi active (14 pages). Him doing absolutely nothing is new to me. Coag is somebody I don't know. I guess I have played games with him but I forgot. LM: Do you think this lurkiness in those players may be alignment indicative or not? LM: Also, would you agree that Alakaslam is probably town? He looks like the usual overly paranoid Slam to me rather than scum pushing agenda. Koshi: Depends if BH is scum tbh. I don't know why he is suddenly going crazy and attacking rayn Koshi: Btw, Vayne thinks you are scum and he is looking townie. You might want to mason him tomorrow. LM: I kind of noticed VA wanting to lunch me. I have kind of accepted my fate, but I might mason him anyway. In the land where meta rules, you're not allowed to try to improve What's your opinion on Mig? I thought he was town, but his reads have been pretty non-existent and apparently he's supposed to be some kind of experienced player... LM: Reading through Mocsta's filter I noticed he spent quite a few posts defending Sharrant. I'd like to hear your opinion on those posts. LM: After re-reading Alakaslam's filter, I'm no longer at all sure he's town. That 180 on raynpelikoneet is just ridiculously quick... Koshi: Bot Mocsta and Sharrant already flipped m8. I don't know what you want me to say... You being a suspect for lynching has nothing to do with us not wanting you to improve. That's silly to suggest. You can also not blame us for using meta on you because you are a low volume poster. If you would break out with a 5-10 page filter this game we wouldn't be able to use meta. But just like in noir and Hogwards you have a 2-3 page filter. Best way to show thread that you are playing this game on D3 is to make a list with all players and give your honest opinion about them. Because to me it looks like you are pretending you are scumhunting but not really doing anything. You told me you wanted to know my alignement by Masoning me, did you figure it out? You asked 1 question? You asked me questions about the lurkers/afkers, did you figure it out? There is never a conclusion to your questions and we all love to know where you stand. LM: Oops, that's what I get for staring at a filter for too long I suppose. My point with the meta was that two games does not really establish any kind of statistically meaningful dataset to compare against. I'm pretty sure I'll get lynched for posting an "useless list post" but sure, I'll do that. Sadly it'll be full of "not sure, null" entries because I honestly don't have a good idea of the alignment of most players in this game. If BH flips red you're definitely town, if he flips something else I suppose I'd still think you likely town. Koshi: Yeah, if you don't have an idea about more than 10 people than you better just concentrate on your scumreads. Those 4 names you gave are not too shabby. Make cases around the 3 that will be alive tomorrow and I am sure you will stay alive if they are good. Koshi: Just Mason VA tommorrow and you will be all right. Unless you went cutiepie on the Sharrant mistake I think you are town. LM: Penny for your thoughts on HolyFlare? The mason log he posted makes him look better and austinmcc look worse to me, but that's the exact opposite of my previous reads so I need to think about this. Koshi: When reading that big ass post from Holyflare I only paid attention to Holyflare tbh. I think he is town, but it all depends a bit on BH flip on what I will do tomorrow. If BH flips town I need to look at Grack, thrawn, BC, alakaslam, etc. If BH flips red I just sheep rayn till he is wrong or I find something really good. I also still find it interesting that Sharrant, StorrZerg & Spag died over vets like BH, SS, VE, Mig, BC etc. Just strange, especially that insane doc Sharrant kill. Quite sexy read. Just like the shot on Mocsta. LM: Do you think getting rid of both assassins was beneficial for town? Koshi: No it's bad for town, they wont tank any shots now. But BH was a good lynch, he could have easily flipped scum. VE was a bigger loss but now we understand why he was going after Skanjab D1... | ||
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Very very likely a super strong game. I will reveal why after the lynch. Maybe you peepz knows. I think after the lynch I will come out of mafia depression. | ||
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I always read filters from NK players but yesterday I was so far gone in my rayn tunnel I believed that they killed Kush for WIFOM reasons. Kush was playing a good game, with good questions and without drama, but normally he doesn't die this fast. This list aren't all his reads, and weren't the reads he was pushing, but maybe after he posted this list scum decided to kill him? On November 20 2013 23:57 OOHCHILD wrote: BloodyC0bbler Mattchew Coagulation austinmcc LoneMeow Alakaslam i wonder how many scum are in this game Now the funny thing is that VA is pushing in the exact same pool. So either scum VA did kill OOHCHILD for WIFOM reasons or VA is playing a strong game. Like I said before I think that VA is playing pretty sexy. I do put a couple question marks by VA his play. 1) He reacted pretty cool towards rayn claim for MH, 2 MH sound a bit crazy. VA doesn't like bastard hosting or crazy set-ups. 2) He isn't voting for Risen and VA hates martyrs. Like really really hate them. 3) Lost 1 of his bombs, when I said we could lynch him to kill both BC and LM. (which still was a good strat, math proven) 4) His activity spiked D4. You can see he makes 20 post each 24 hours. Page 2 of his filter starts at 16th of November, page 3 17th, page 4 18th and so on till right before the lynch on page 9. From then he posts 40+ posts every 24 hours and even before the flip from BC & rayn he is already discussing todays lynch. On November 23 2013 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote: austin just confirmed a rayn lynch, so we'll see if he's scum or not On November 23 2013 10:07 VayneAuthority wrote: lynch koshi tomorrow as rayn's dying request, least we can do for him. koshi is better then that Above two quotes is VA already talking how rayn might flip town and that both Austin and Koshi should pay the price if this happens. Also, there is not much saving rayn talk but much vengeance kill his killers talk. This is on the top of page 9 of VA his filter. I want to point out that VA has posted 90 posts from then on, which is 33% of his filter. But still I want to lynch Risen/Thrawn. But discussing those names on Kush list looks promising as well. | ||
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On November 26 2013 02:09 Onegu wrote: @Koshi be honest with me if you rolled scum in a game and rayn rolled town and you had the chance to hammer rayn and get him lynched because it is rayn would you do it? I mean over someone else so postgame you could be like blam gotcha son. ##Burn Been a while since I rolled scum. I have no clue what I would do as scum nowadays. But going after rayn for epeen between us is not what I would do. True story. | ||
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On November 26 2013 04:58 austinmcc wrote: Koshi, would you care to comment on thrawn? I see you like a risen/thrawn lynch today, but you haven't really said why. You've...never really said anything about him, actually. Except that he shouldn't play 2 games if he can't keep up, and that he should sheep your rayn vote. Pretty sure I was telling rayn that thrawn was playing pretty bad. But rayn defended him because he looked townie in the Mason. Then I told him that thrawn looked shitty in the thread though. Apart from that. I am not really feeling a thrawn lynch over a Risen lynch. | ||
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On November 26 2013 05:02 austinmcc wrote: Okay. Would you care to comment on thrawn and why? thrawn in Witchraft II was a total boss. This game, not so much. But he doesn't say that he isn't following the game, even though he clearly isn't committed. Don't know why trawn would play like this when he can play like a total boss. That's kinda it. But I am feeling a Risen lynch because they killed supersoft and supersoft was becoming town leader that would push this lynch through. If scum wanted to be certain fo a Risen lynch they would have just left supersoft alive and killed 2 people that might be opposed to a Risen lynch. It's not that supersoft was confirmed town, but he was a big influence. Also, the people that are opposing the Risen lynch are the people on the Kush list and VA. I am not a big fan of VA tbh. | ||
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On November 26 2013 05:08 austinmcc wrote: Could you expound upon this? As well as state clearly, "My name is koshi and if I was forced to say townthrawn or scumthrawn, I would say _______" scum thrawn. BUT always lynch Risen over Kush today. | ||
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On November 26 2013 05:14 austinmcc wrote: So thrawn is scum because...he can be a boss but he is not? There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING specific in his filter that makes you scummy on him? There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that says "wow, thrawn is anti-town or pushing anti-town lynches/objectives this game"? It is purely that he has played better than he is this game? Or is there more than bossness? Well you people said some things but I was in mafia depression. @Hopeless. I meant thrawn obviously. | ||
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I am sheeping a townie and an universal townread... Wtf you want? | ||
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On November 26 2013 05:20 austinmcc wrote: thrawn has been playing this game. he has a filter. he's made posts. Heck, you TALKED about the guy earlier, on D2. You had him town for instantly playing, then didn't know why people were townie on him, then had him slightly scummy because of his effort in thread vs effort in QT. It's not just "you people said some things," YOU have said some things. But they've been very bland. He has a filter. I just pulled a bunch of stuff out. If you are town and want to be un-depressed, make posts, find scum, read their filters, go "OH CRAP THIS AND THAT AND THIS OTHER THING ARE REALLY FRIGGIN' SCUMMY." If you won't do that, how about you look at thrawn's filter during the D2 lynch, all his stuff on BH (which you halfway commented on D2, bee tee dubs). Then you look at thrawn's filter for his mentions of BC, and follow his BC read. Then, you post in the thread how you feel about thrawn, specifically, in reference to posts he's made and discrete things that he has done this game. Then we can high five. Seriously though, thrawn on BC, throughout the game, read it. But today I want to be lazy D:, can't I do it tomorrow? | ||
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But really it comes down on thrawn not being a boss. I see him defending BC a couple times when it is totally not needed (D2 lynch) which is not scummy I guess. But then things like saying Onegu is scum for a meh reason and then the total apathetic follow up on that is scummy. But I have really no interest in lynching thrawn over Risen. | ||
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On November 26 2013 06:07 austinmcc wrote: Please to answer before sleep.I made you a cake. You looked at some of this stuff just a moment ago, so it takes even less effort now to explain things, you're already caught up! YAYAYA ANSWER YESSSSSSSSS GOOD Look. I already told you that the main thing I find scummy about thrawn is his lack of bossness. There are 2 reasons for this. 1) he is scum and he doesn't give 2 fucks. 2) he is town and he doesn't give 2 fucks. His vote on a dead BC doesn't matter because there were 3 other wagons. Which were Risen, Pandain and rayn. So unless he had scum reads on 2 of those people his vote on BC is not indicative off anything, tbh it is even more towny because he is just sheeping town sentiment which is not a bad thing if you are town and don't give a fuck. As scum you might at least park your vote on some guy you said was scummy. But let me see what thrawn says about Risen. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote: goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch. On November 23 2013 09:06 thrawn2112 wrote: I completely disagree with what koshi is saying about rayn. BC.... I just don't fucking know, I was really convinced by his D2 angry posts and I've liked him for being on this same page as me during that time.. but after I came back from afk he was the first person I read and his latest posts (conversations with Mig) are completely different in tone to the posts that I liked him so much for earlier. I want him to answer this before I decide: I haven't looked at oats/ss yet so I'll do that in the meantime To me thrawn looks town that doesn't give a shit. And when I say doesn't give a shit I am a bit overstating it obviously. Just not as much as in WitchCraft. So that's my answer to that question. Town thrawn had a townread on both Risen, rayn and BC. He had 2 votes and there were 4 wagons. He put a vote on his scumread Pandain and then his last vote on BC because everybody was on BC. Got no problem with that tbh. | ||
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On November 26 2013 06:33 austinmcc wrote: Because mafia shot him! I presume that you want more than that, though. You want speculation as to WHY mafia did what they did? Because he looked pretty townie to MOST people that commented on him. imo, that's the reason. Perhaps he looks very townie and is on the wrong track. Perhaps he looks townie but has not yet commented on a bunch of their teammates. Perhaps, at the end of the day, he was critical of grack and grack's lying about being a mason, and scum were looking to push a grack mislynch. It could be because of who is NOT on his list, he was townie on supersoft, when supersoft was looking a bit wonky because he was so sure oats was scum. There are a bunch of reasons or possible reasons. What I would say is that, if you are trying to use this as some counterpoint to my questions about thrawn, I am asking you to explain one person's behavior based on his posts. I don't think it makes any sense as town behavior. You are asking me to explain why a whole mafia team shot someone, based on whatever a whole mafia team thinks and doesn't write in the thread. Yeah, but that post from Kush really jumps at me, knowing that VA is on the exact same people. I am going to stick on Risen. I should maybe sheep you cuz you sheeped me yesterday but I hope we can still be friends after this. | ||
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Cuz There is like nobody who is like "hey, guys what about Risen" but when wagon was on Risen There were muchos guys going "hey, guys what about thrawn" So it like. Both are scum and scum rolled over. or trawn is not scum. If thrawn is scum. I will gladly be misslynched tomorrow after going into another mafia depression. But sense this makes 0. Like VA is not here while he just was most active while lynch was on Risen. He made like 100 posts in 48 hours. Then there is all the peeps on Kush list who hopped on thrawn lynch just to get off Risen. All these people were first shattered and not on Risen. But now they are all on thrawn. But ofc thrawn isn't here... figures. and Risen will tell us another story tomorrow. Just had to say this. | ||
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But like every mofo in this game except ofc Oats and thrawn himself had to say something about a thrawn lynch. | ||
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On November 26 2013 09:37 VayneAuthority wrote: im here. just dont care since it doesnt matter to me who is lynched You really think both are town? | ||
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So, I am totes going to bed now and will check in 15 mins, then cry myself to sleep. | ||
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This just smells bad. | ||
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In other news, I have mentioned thrawn 73 times in my filter. Some is good, some is bad. I saw something really bad though, saw some really good stuff as well. | ||
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I mean. I was totes right about stuff right before I started pushing rayn. | ||
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On November 26 2013 17:22 Alakaslam wrote: I'd love to, but I fear the vets who are scum carry more weight than I do. If I get Muslim d later it is worse than sooner in this scenario. Anyway I will avoid mislynch if I can, but if I trigger too much scumdar I need to go. Nah, we get Oats and VA lynched before us if Risen is scum. ezpz. It gets really hard when Risen flips town but we do it FOR THE TURKEY THAT VOMITS! | ||
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On November 26 2013 17:44 VayneAuthority wrote: koshi is either scum or his worst game ever on this site Titanic I was probably still worse. But yeah it is not being my best game ]: | ||
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I think you might be scum. | ||
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On November 21 2013 06:07 Koshi wrote: Also. If the Holyflare thing is true. I KNEW IT! Now all follow my lead and lets lynch thrawn and VA. On November 21 2013 06:25 Koshi wrote: Alakaslam, BC, VA, Risen, Grack scumteam. In case I die. ^ look at how close I was. This was before all the rayn shit and right before the Grack fake Mason claim. I would have had Alakaslam, BC, VA, Risen & thrawn. Like... Maybe Alakaslam isn't scum and maybe VA isn't scum but look at how right I was D: | ||
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On November 26 2013 18:07 VayneAuthority wrote: If I recall yamato was potentially going to kill BH or BC with his mayor shot? So why would any scum be on yamato and risk losing their doctor? yamato also had a strong scum read on you so you should stop bringing it up btw, unless you want people to see that No. Yamato was after BH, Austin and Onegu. Onegu maybe tho most after BH. + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 01:04 yamato77 wrote: Catching up post I'm working on my reads currently, but I explicitly stated that I no longer want to lynch BC. This feels a LOT LIKE LXI where BC was town and him and Ace (now ss in this game) were just all over each other with vet circlejerk. Funny enough, SS mentioned VE as possible assassin makes him more likely to be one himself, and Ace was 3P in that game, too! I don't really think either is mafia, anyway. Grack could be someone I would want to see die. He had some activity when BC accused him, but that was it and since he's been rather MIA. He could be just lazy town, but he's had way more effort than this in his past few town games. this is another useless fuck. Just like his last scum game, BH is doing nothing and getting ignored for it. If I had mayor, I would kill him. Onegu seems off to me a bit. He's really on this HF thing which reminds me a lot of how he tunneled people as scum in Desert. Plus posts like these that are jokish in nature feel a bit forced. Not enough to make me want to lynch him over the less active people, but enough that I think he should be seriously watched. I agree with this post. I think Mig is probably town. He's posted many things I find genuine and a lot of things I agree with. I had the same reaction to Storr's post there. Also this. Moc is worth watching just because of how silly that was. However, I think Moc often forces cases even as town (Like Hapa does when he's town), so it's not enough. I think Moc's activity over the next few days will tell us more about his alginment. Austinmcc is another person I am looking at seriously. I remember him asking some vague questions to people and his slightly trollish style is one he can definitely emulate as mafia. He hasn't been very involved in finding scum, just asking questions and appearing interested. I don't think he's taken any stances himself and I don't remember of the top of my head who he wants for mayor. Will be filtering him shortly. | ||
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On November 26 2013 18:16 Risen wrote: I mean shit if you take a look at the various reads I've had all game I've probably been spot on as well!....... >.> o rly | ||
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On November 26 2013 19:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi why MUST there be 1 scum on yamato? Lets say Yamato is campaigning to kill a scum and there are alternatives like VE and Super who dont. Why as scum do I vote for Yamato out of VE or Super, BOTH TOWN? Look. There is no rational explanation for this shit. But scum always splits up. Also with thrawn on himself and Mocsta on himself I am inclined to believe that Onegu is town. It's the worst kind of scumhunting but when we don't know where to look or we are looking for last scummer that is a good way to search imo. 2 on themselves, one on Yamato, last 3 on ss and VE. Like show me 100 early lynches/mayor votes/ w.evs and you will see 99 times that scum split up rather nicely. | ||
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Pandain Pandain Pandain Pandain Pandain etc | ||
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On November 26 2013 20:12 Holyflare wrote: It's more factual now that thrawn is scum. His name is randomly thrown into the "if i die reads" over his top scum reads. Yes, I understand. But it can be seen as totes random coag shizzle if Risen is town imo. Why go for the buss today if you can save 2 KP by just staying on Risen. I feel like nobody would blame Coag for not changing to thrawn. Like if Risen is scum this game is practically solved. | ||
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On November 26 2013 20:04 Koshi wrote: Anyway, I am totes with you on the rest. Also Coag filter before N3 Pandain Pandain Pandain Pandain Pandain etc This was Hopeless. Not Coag. | ||
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On November 25 2013 08:48 Hopeless1der wrote: Everyone voting Risen, if you're town this is unacceptable because SS has proven himself to be completely untrustworthy. BC has proven himself capable of fooling the guy you are sheeping. You can't all be scum, so what gives? Townish I guess. | ||
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On November 26 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote: The worst kind of scumhunting is when you assuming something that is actually REALLY UNLIKELY. Yamato wants to kill the 2 SHOT VIG. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND VOTES FOR THAT MAYOR. I could agree with you if either SS or VE were scum, but they arent. So, therefore, there isnt even any kinda association that mafia would put themselves under by NOT voting for yamato. supersoft wanted to kill Mocsta. Yamato wanted to kill: 1. BH 2. Onegu 3. Austin | ||
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On November 17 2013 01:44 yamato77 wrote: Comment on any other of my reads and tell me why Mocsta is more likely mafia than any of them. Right now, I don't think he is. On November 17 2013 01:54 yamato77 wrote: I made a post about Austin. Mocsta is playing quite similar to how he plays as town. It's definitely not how I, or you, play town. He commonly forces things early and he often gets into spats like he did with you. I don't see much in his content that I find particularly abhorrent that I haven't already mentioned. | ||
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On November 18 2013 06:49 yamato77 wrote: As for SS's posts themselves, there are multiple times when he is asked about reads where he dodges or is subsequently "not sure". He gave that list post above, and then qwhen asked who he would lynch as mayor, he somehow arrives to the conclusion that MOCSTA is mafia. Conveniently, he does this to try to convince grack to vote for him since he sees that grack supports Artanis in thinking Moc is mafia... There really was no reason for mafia to not be on Yamato. But I agree that maybe there isn't a mafia on Yamato. But it would make more sense that there are 2 than there is 0. | ||
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On November 27 2013 01:22 Grackaroni wrote: lol my reads have been impeccable all game long. This is actually scummy  | ||
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On November 27 2013 02:19 Risen wrote: It sure did, because I'm town and I'm going to flip town. You do realize I said the same thing about you flipping mafia right? | ||
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^ Isn't that how you can also type sentences like that. Totes sorry if I confused you Risen. | ||
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VE election was a bit meh but ok. BH wasn't town. BC was scum. thrawn was scum. rayn was a bit unlucky but really not the worst lynch. It's not like he was pushing scum. At least that's how it looks like now. (before VA is again on my ass.) I mean peepz can be a bit mad at me but Mig shot the doc. So imo I am a WAY better nk than Mig. | ||
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On November 27 2013 04:54 Holyflare wrote: I'm not gonna let this run like WHC where we just afk lynched for 3 days straight and ended up losing because everyone thought we had scum. If we're wrong about people then mafia just has this in the bag.... I shall make cases tomorrow. Big ones. To confirm town and shizzle. We all should. But I shall. | ||
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Or is this against the rules with the "outside items betting"? | ||
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Then when the wagon was finally on thrawn, he looked more frustrated than he should be. Maybe. This is maybe a stretch. And I got a bad record. But it is what it is. | ||
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