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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2013 14:38 GMT
#1561
On November 16 2013 23:37 Spaghetticus wrote:
I'd also like to add that the nature of my summary is everything I found to be non-fluff. If it's not mentioned, it's likely I thought it fluff. I've named the pages so that people can verify the accuracy of my statements easily, or look for more information. I've got to write some D&D campaign for tomorrow and catch some sleeps... in the next nine hours. I've then got to host said campaign for approx five hours. I don't want to be entirely silent up until the election, but I don't really have time to do much.

Can someone give me an estimate of how long until the election? I have no idea how to read/interpret global time readouts. The way I thought intuitive turned up an impossible result. I'll try to turn up sometime before the election... but this isn't boding well for my sleeps...

Election finishes in about 10 hours and 20 minutes.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 16 2013 14:39 GMT
#1562
Deadline in about 10 hours 20 minutes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
November 16 2013 14:46 GMT
#1563
Okay thanks guys. That puts it at midday, maybe I'll tell these fools to go buy lunch or something.

I'll still be checking in everynow and then as I write this campaign, but my responses may be short.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2013 14:49 GMT
#1564
^ Been reading your post and reading VE and I don't see it. It's a good post though. But I don't see why VE is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
November 16 2013 14:50 GMT
#1565
On November 16 2013 13:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:49 Mig wrote:
VE do you still plan on lynching into the same group of 4 you listed earlier or has it changed?


It's changed, and incomplete. Right now I'm somewhere around

[b]Skanjab, Pandain, Sharrant

And I'm torn on my last couple. I'm still not interested in lynching rayn or BC and I'm starting to come around on StorrZerg. His last round of posts, while not super enlightening, felt genuine enough.

I'm still filtering, and still rereading. Sup?


(1) Why am I, pandain, and sharrant scum? You have not given any reasoning at all for these reads.

(2) Also, could you please quote which posts from StorrZerg made you drop your scumread of him?

(3) Why do you no longer suspect Grack?
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 16 2013 14:50 GMT
#1566
On November 16 2013 23:25 Spaghetticus wrote:

READ MY CASE.


I read it, I agree with some of the points. Especially removing Grack/Storr from his lynch candidates with little to no explanation is weird to me. Other points are cherry picking tho, asking people their thoughts on Grack is a good thing. Forces people to take a side and gives you more information to define your read with. Overall even though VE hasn't made any strong cases the questions he asks are good and I think are generally leading the town discussion in a good direction.

Right now I am still open to voting VE but I am considering voting BC also.


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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2013 14:52 GMT
#1567
On November 16 2013 23:50 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 23:25 Spaghetticus wrote:

READ MY CASE.


I read it, I agree with some of the points. Especially removing Grack/Storr from his lynch candidates with little to no explanation is weird to me. Other points are cherry picking tho, asking people their thoughts on Grack is a good thing. Forces people to take a side and gives you more information to define your read with. Overall even though VE hasn't made any strong cases the questions he asks are good and I think are generally leading the town discussion in a good direction.

Right now I am still open to voting VE but I am considering voting BC also.



Are you confident in that BC is town? If so, what specifically changed your mind from null?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 16 2013 14:53 GMT
#1568
On November 16 2013 23:46 Spaghetticus wrote:
Okay thanks guys. That puts it at midday, maybe I'll tell these fools to go buy lunch or something.

I'll still be checking in everynow and then as I write this campaign, but my responses may be short.

Spaghetticus
I am finding you hard to read.

Posts are verbose and complicated -- everything I expect from a scum spag trying to bamboozle the thread.

Have a go at this:
You haven't played the game for at least 6 months.
VE has been playing for more than 6 months.

1/3 of the thread thinks VE is not only town, but a strong enough candidate to be voted mayor.
Some of those may even be players that you think are town and possibly respect.

Why would you try and smear his campaign?
Is this guy really your best scum read that you are willing to shit the thread up to smite VE?
I don't get a Spag that is town would do this... because I sure as hell know this is how scum spag likes to play.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
November 16 2013 14:53 GMT
#1569
Something is very wrong if someone has an eight page filter but has not done anything townish. At the very least, please think in terms of how certain you are that he is town. Certain enough to want him mayor, given how unrestrained he's set himself up to be? If he is scum and mayor, he is going to be difficult to pin down as he has not committed to anything.

I don't care if you think he's scum right now, as proving him scum in the immediate is not my intention. I just want him not to be mayor (or pardoner if it comes down to it).
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
November 16 2013 14:54 GMT
#1570
Sorry ,that post was in response to Koshi.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2013 14:55 GMT
#1571
What do you define as townish? Can you show me townish stuff from the candidates that you would like to see elected.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2013 14:58 GMT
#1572
rayn
Can you explain to me how you are approaching this game? How are you trying to lynch scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2013 14:58 GMT
#1573
I am pretty sure rayn is scum. Pretty pretty sure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
November 16 2013 14:58 GMT
#1574
On November 16 2013 23:50 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 23:25 Spaghetticus wrote:

READ MY CASE.


I read it, I agree with some of the points. Especially removing Grack/Storr from his lynch candidates with little to no explanation is weird to me. Other points are cherry picking tho, asking people their thoughts on Grack is a good thing. Forces people to take a side and gives you more information to define your read with. Overall even though VE hasn't made any strong cases the questions he asks are good and I think are generally leading the town discussion in a good direction.

Right now I am still open to voting VE but I am considering voting BC also.




Hmmm I'm not comfortable with BC, but that's better that VE IMO. The questions he asks are cherrypicking, and the environment he creates is one that looks like a town one, but without information on who is actually scum, they could all be false leads.

As before, I don't need to convince you he's scum, only that he has in no way proved himself townish, or useful to town, and is setting up to be a very dangerous mayor.

Asking thoughts on Grack isn't so bad, but it's seriously not that useful. I would like to hear anyone prove me wrong by saying something positive about Grack, other than Grack himself. VE is merely looking useful while not putting in townish thought.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#1575
On November 16 2013 23:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Are you confident in that BC is town? If so, what specifically changed your mind from null?


No I wouldn't say I am super confident BC is town, although I liked his pressure on Storr. But I agree with his 2 top scum picks, grack/storrzerg and I would prefer to see one of them lynched over VE's current candidates. Which is why I am considering him more strongly.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 16 2013 15:01 GMT
#1576
This is super paranoid from Spag.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2013 15:02 GMT
#1577
Oats you understand how rayn is playing this game?
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2013 15:07 GMT
#1578
On November 17 2013 00:00 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 23:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Are you confident in that BC is town? If so, what specifically changed your mind from null?


No I wouldn't say I am super confident BC is town, although I liked his pressure on Storr. But I agree with his 2 top scum picks, grack/storrzerg and I would prefer to see one of them lynched over VE's current candidates. Which is why I am considering him more strongly.



He only really pressured Storr for a little bit though in his initial post with Grack. After that it was a back and forth where neither side were really accomplishing anything. No stronger reads or convincing of anyone that the other was town. BC also stopped pressing for either of them to get lynched in favour of discrediting Yamato and pushing for ss as mayor. He doesn't seem to have conviction in his cases.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 16 2013 15:09 GMT
#1579
On November 16 2013 23:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
What do you think about Spaghetticus?


Before his VE case I'd have said completely null. I haven't fully analyzed the case yet, but just the fact that he's pushing someone most consider town makes him either quite ballsy scum or town, and I'd be tempted to think the latter is more probable (NB: I'm not aware of his meta).

What do you think of raynpelikoneet?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 16 2013 15:10 GMT
#1580
On November 16 2013 23:58 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty sure rayn is scum. Pretty pretty sure.



No I think he is town. It just looks a bit different because there isnt a lynch to vote for today.
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