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On November 16 2013 08:31 Risen wrote: I'm down with BC mayor but would prefer VE not be pardoner That's convenient. I haven't done anything rash in I can't even remember how long. Any particular reason for this other than polarizing the vote?
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austinmcc I want you to stare deep and long into the filter of Pandain and tell me why I should NOT lynch him with the fury of a thousand suns.
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StorrZerg I also would lynch you right now. Am I scum bro?
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Because I'm giving no weight to "lol busy" when you were trying to run for mayor at the beginning of the game.
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I want to know: what was the purpose of trying to run for mayor yesterday? If you had won, what would you have done?
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On November 16 2013 10:29 austinmcc wrote: VE, assorted Pandain thoughts.
He halfway buddies you pretty hard early on. Defends you as dodgy, calls you a sexy beast, etc. etc. I have not played a D1 with Pandain I don't think, but at least from Magical Cop Sandwich mafia, I do not remember him really buddying up to any townies in that manner as scum. He doesn't appear to actually be winning points with you, nobody has actually been appointed mayor, and while you were vocal and semi-leaderish at the start of the thread, I don't see much cause for him to put that buddying in thread if he's scum. It's too obvious for my tastes?
I think his mason claim is BS. Which is mildly mildly townie, as the real reason to fake claim would be to draw shots and be an asshat because you're going to screw up other mason claims and might encourage other masons to claim if they see Yamato's post and Pandain's post and think Pandain is srs. So apparently I find it mildly townie even though it doesn't actually help town at all and if Pandain wanted to draw shots he should be posting.
He hard defended LoneMeow in that game didn't he? Like, as we were stringing the dude up?
What's even "mildly mildly" townie about him fakeclaiming mason? Even as a townie that's the most ridiculous thing ever, because it's a confirmable role. When he claimed that, people are gonna be like "Who did Pandain mason?" every day he lives until he comes clean = he's almost certainly a mason. The question is whether he's a town mason or a scum mason. We already have another semi-confirmed mason in LoneMeow.
As you said, if he wanted to draw shots he could be posting. He's not doing anything. Apparently not even masoning because apparently he hasn't chosen anyone to mason yet.
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On November 16 2013 10:39 Pandain wrote: I think LoneMeow is pretty town, I give him town points(though not defiinitive), for masoning Yamato. Masononing a vet seems like a town thing to do, and he could crumble under pressure against someone as aggressive as yamato This assumes Yamato is applying any pressure to him in mason. Yamato isn't doing much in the thread at the moment, I have to assume he's not doing much in a mason chat either.
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On November 16 2013 10:49 StorrZerg wrote: @VE did you have a case against me?
also your reads on BC and Mocsta I'm leaning town on Mocsta and I'm pretty firmly town on BC.
No case, just my observations about your play. I feel like you haven't done any scumhunting, in spite of your apparent eagerness to do so - two posts I recall off the top of my head where you're all "Let's find some scum!" or whatever and you never ever try and find any scum.
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On November 16 2013 10:51 austinmcc wrote:I prefer not to think about the third claimer that game. VE, in late exchange for my Pandain thoughts, I would ask you to look at these two points, within the context of when they were written, and tell me if you think anything neat about Onegu just based on these. Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 01:31 Onegu wrote:On November 15 2013 20:42 supersoft wrote: pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum. Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely. If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad. I disagree with this post all the way. A calm relaxed town is much better than a rattled unhappy town as it interfers with thier ability to think rational thoughts and posts. For super to use this as a reson for his attitude feels scummy, if he just said this is how I play deal with it, I would feel better about him. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote:Also rayn I dont like how HF doesnt give many hard raeds on his own, but asks people for thier thoughts on them. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote: VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote: I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote: So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too. On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly. So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game. Oats, shy are you so prickly this game. Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note. Here he makes a very small point on hopelesses first post. And that his contributions are useless. Then he tells Mattchew he should look into hopeless because he has played with him in Hogwarts Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 12:54 Mattchew wrote: VE who shoudl i look at? Hopeless. You played with him in hogwarts. What is your take on him this game? He doesnt add anything. At this point Hopeless filter is very short and no where near a hot button topic so why have mattchew take a closer look at him. Then out of no where comes HF asking the thread about mattchew when HF hasnt talked about mattchew yet. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:Can someone give me their take on mattchew please? I'm having a hard time untangling his posts. Like.... it's all crap, he even asked on who he should look into and didn't end up doing that but also posts something like: On November 15 2013 12:47 Mattchew wrote: Yam and mocsta are town but i dont agree with Mocsta's case on Storr. I saw his conclusion, read storrs filter for myself, then read his case, and reconsidered but was not swayed into putting storr anywhere but neutral. Storr is going to play different, because he comes from a different type of mafia. Mocsta sometimes equivocates different to scum . Mattchew, what is your take on hopeless and rayn? I know you've now played with both because of hogwarts so what is your view on them at this present time? ________________________________________________________ For everyone else, much like grack, mattchew came out of the woodwork to post a point relating to mocsta/storr and apart from that has really added nothing. His other "content" is just calling people town etc. He makes the effort to "read" the filter of one player but has no evidence of that for any other player, despite many being mentioned in the game. Would you be comfortable lynching this way, because I would. Then again he asks Mattchew for his thoughts on hopeless which he only talked about one time, and rayn. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price? You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge I troll no further albeit tempting Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked. He hasnt added anything to the discussion but continues to just ask peoples opinion. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:20 Holyflare wrote: What does scum matt look like then? Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 15:00 Holyflare wrote: Either way, he isn't here and I've linked all that needs to be linked. What do you think of rayn so far. I know you had some back and forths last game. Has your read on him improved because of hogwarts or not? Without adding anything to the discussion he tries to look active by just asking questions. Do you mean outside of the fact that he completely dropped his suspicion of supersoft? I mean, I'm not sure what I'm expected to see with regard to when they were written - rayn had just made a big post on HF right before Onegu's first post and the second one is like him adding to rayn's points.
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On November 16 2013 10:44 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 10:39 Pandain wrote: I think LoneMeow is pretty town, I give him town points(though not defiinitive), for masoning Yamato. Masononing a vet seems like a town thing to do, and he could crumble under pressure against someone as aggressive as yamato This assumes Yamato is applying any pressure to him in mason. Yamato isn't doing much in the thread at the moment, I have to assume he's not doing much in a mason chat either. It doesn't matter. The fact he masoned Yamato and the oppurtunity is there either means he doesn't know yamato, he's really confident in himself(anyone have confirmation on this? Wasn't he the guy who claimed doctor and then Mocsta counter-claimed him?), or he's town. Which do you think is more likely for a person who has played previous games? Just because someone is considered town openly doesn't mean they're any more dangerous to the scumteam or any more intimidating in PMs. Yamato isn't known for his prowess in PMs that I'm aware of, in fact I'm pretty sure in a game almost identical to this one he literally lost a game in PMs or something like that.
However I agree that the action leans more townie. So you've heard austin's theory Pandain, are you fake-claiming mason? Or are you ACTUALLY a mason?
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On November 16 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote: Nah. They're so different in subject that I don't see one to the other as dropping supersoft.
I guess...how you feel about those posts? Does either scream either alignment to you? They just do very different things for me, and I want to poke at him about it, but also see if anyone else gets anything from them. Well they both follow a similar theme of going with the flow. Like, people were coming out against supersoft's gruff aggression right? So he spoke up against that. Then rayn made a big post about HF and people were starting to get onboard with that, and he adds a couple of points to Rayn's post.
Ultimately though I'm not left with a good sense of what Onegu actually thinks about either one of them because of a lack of follow up on either of them.
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hiro protagonist still has done nothing. What began as a joke could feasibly turn into something far more sinister by day's end if his game does not take a sharp upturn.
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On November 16 2013 05:48 Grackaroni wrote: Terrible mayor post from VE. Vote for the Tomato. That guy is going to fry the bloody pie.
On November 16 2013 11:29 StorrZerg wrote: personally i am fine with a BC lynch since i feel he has not been looking for scum, just low hanging fruit.
Why does e'erybody always wanna kill the BC?
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You're even on several "Do not lynch D1" lists. It's really a mystery to me that it's like that. Is it because you're mean?
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On November 16 2013 11:40 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 05:48 Grackaroni wrote: Terrible mayor post from VE. Vote for the Tomato. That guy is going to fry the bloody pie. On November 16 2013 11:29 StorrZerg wrote: personally i am fine with a BC lynch since i feel he has not been looking for scum, just low hanging fruit.
Why does e'erybody always wanna kill the BC? I wouldn't say everyone. Would you have revised cases on people you would like to lynch now? Personally im looking for someone to vote now since i know ill be inactive latter. Convince me your the best person, and who the best lynch is. give me the passion Just vote for me because I'll be here and I'm obviously reading and obviously town Storr. I promise I'll lynch scum.
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On November 16 2013 11:51 Alakaslam wrote: I haven't had any serious reservations toward BloodyC0bbler yet. But I have had reservations, because I am still having reservations about every vet because of Piperism. Dude that's just not how the game is played. Experienced players don't just magically get followers...not since Palmar was crowned King of the Noobs has a player been just innately able to garner blind followers, and Palmar hasn't played a serious game of mafia in like years it feels like.
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On November 16 2013 11:57 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 11:40 StorrZerg wrote:On November 16 2013 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 05:48 Grackaroni wrote: Terrible mayor post from VE. Vote for the Tomato. That guy is going to fry the bloody pie. On November 16 2013 11:29 StorrZerg wrote: personally i am fine with a BC lynch since i feel he has not been looking for scum, just low hanging fruit.
Why does e'erybody always wanna kill the BC? I wouldn't say everyone. Would you have revised cases on people you would like to lynch now? Personally im looking for someone to vote now since i know ill be inactive latter. Convince me your the best person, and who the best lynch is. give me the passion Just vote for me because I'll be here and I'm obviously reading and obviously town Storr. I promise I'll lynch scum. need more :/ S'okay bbygrl you can vote one of my opponents futilely if you need to. I've made my mayoral strategy quite clear in my posts, if it's not your cup of tea why, that's what a democracy is all about. :D
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On November 16 2013 11:59 Risen wrote: Storr won't vote for you b/c he's afraid you're going to lynch him. As he should be, especially since he's resisting my campaign. Passive-aggression-mode-engage!!
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